Last Chance To Stop SOPA From Coming To Canada

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Last Chance To Stop SOPA From Coming To Canada

Posted by Soulskill on Friday March 9, 2012 @06:26AM from the pretend-stopping-it-will-make-the-leafs-and-the-habs-win dept.

An anonymous reader writes "This weekend may be the last chance for Canadians to fight back against SOPA-style laws being added to Canadian copyright law, with the final hearing scheduled for Monday. In recent days, the copyright lobby has demanded website blocking, warrantless access to subscriber information, and unlimited damage awards. Michael Geist has the details on who to contact and Open Media has launched a campaign to encourage Canadians to speak out before Monday's Bill C-11 meeting. The group makes it easy to speak out against SOPA style reforms, harms to fair dealing, and unduly restrictive digital lock rules."

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Re:Eh by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 06:32 · Score: 5, Insightful

First, they came for the Canadians, but I did not speak up because I am not Canadian...
Harper's in Office by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 06:35 · Score: 5, Informative

If he wants the law to pass, it'll get done, despite what anyone, even his own party wants. The opposite is also true.
1. Re:Harper's in Office by Beardo+the+Bearded · 2012-03-09 06:50 · Score: 4, Funny
  
  Use a rifle. You don't even have to register them anymore.
  
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2. Re:Harper's in Office by billcopc · 2012-03-09 07:43 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  This.
  He must be stopped. And by stopped I mean thrown in prison. And by prison I mean not one of the for-profit prisons he's established. And by established I mean sold to private interests. And by private interests I mean his cronies.
  He is George W. Bush with slightly better english diction.
  
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3. Re:Harper's in Office by DarthVain · 2012-03-09 08:11 · Score: 2
  
  Cop #1: "So who did it?"
  Cop #2: "Irony."
try anyways by WanQiaoYi · 2012-03-09 06:36 · Score: 2

good luck Canada!
Fuck you, Canada! by elrous0 · 2012-03-09 06:37 · Score: 2, Funny

You think we're helping you after what you did to our Baldwins?!?!?

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I still have a right to make backups by msobkow · 2012-03-09 06:43 · Score: 5, Insightful

If the DMCA clauses pass, I'll still have a right to make backups. It'll be harder to get the software for ripping, but it won't slow me down in the least, or worry me at all.
What it will do is encourage me to torrent download like a fiend to save the hassle of ripping and encoding my own DVDs for access via media server.

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Stupid by jpmorgan · 2012-03-09 06:47 · Score: 2

C-11 is nothing like SOPA.
Don't believe me? Read it for yourself.
1. Re:Stupid by poetmatt · 2012-03-09 06:52 · Score: 5, Insightful
  
  That's not an excuse. It's subjecting Canada to the same problems as we have with US laws.
Zero chance of stopping it by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 06:50 · Score: 5, Insightful

Canada has been taken over by a radical bunch of neo-cons. They have committed innumerable acts of election fraud in what has been effectively a coup.
This SOPA-like shit is nothing in the grander scale of things.
Now is Canada's time to shed some blood to refresh the tree of liberty in this country. An unimaginable change from a mere 10 years ago when we complained about the other party in government kowtowing to corporate wishes.
Watch for the con-bots to appear claiming that they're the victim in this somehow. Or how John Doe got a speeding ticket, con-bots murdered someone, so everyone's a criminal, blah blah blah.
Fuck, it makes me sick thinking about what's happened to this country. Honestly fucking want to puke.
1. Re:Zero chance of stopping it by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 07:07 · Score: 3, Funny
  
  A pussy with a dream/goal is still better than a dick who aimlessly pisses on those dreams/goals
  Both are better than an asshole who shits on everything though and ruin the world for everyone.
  Pussies can't do much about assholes, but a good pussy can entice a dick to rise up, and do something about the asshole.
  Now the writers of Team America World Police will come sue me for borrowing their analogy
Liberals+NDP by serbianheretic · 2012-03-09 06:55 · Score: 2

If we can get Liberals and NDP to scream **bloody murder*** together with regular citizens, then it might dawn on those in Ottawa that this will hurt their re-election chances. Just a thought ...
1. Re:Liberals+NDP by Maow · 2012-03-09 07:33 · Score: 3, Interesting
  
  If we can get Liberals and NDP to scream **bloody murder*** together with regular citizens, then it might dawn on those in Ottawa that this will hurt their re-election chances. Just a thought ...
  Bill C-30 will eventually get passed, some time before the next election.
  The clause inside it that allows the ISP "raids" to be performed by anyone designated by the minister is a dead giveaway, in conjunction with the massive election frauds, that it will be used by Conservative hacks to dig dirt on political opponents.
  There will be no more free & fair elections for the Conservatives to have to worry about losing. Remember the 2+ years of attack ads against Ignatief? Just wait until they can scour the records of all communications of all their opponents, coupled with planting evidence where none exists and the Cons expect a permanent majority.
  Anything less would leave them exposed to prosecution on criminal charges of everything up to treason.
Re:Where are they? by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 06:57 · Score: 2, Funny

In jail. In the USA.
Next question?
Re:Where are they? by nman64 · 2012-03-09 06:59 · Score: 2

Or, some foolish script kiddies costing businesses money could fuel the arguments for more government regulation, control and interference. Legislators, lobbyists, CEOs and others of that ilk do not see Anonymous as crusaders of freedom representing the public's interests, but rather as obnoxious criminals pushing their own agenda.
Watching Closely by calgar99 · 2012-03-09 07:00 · Score: 2

Anyone living just south of Canada... hell, everyone should be watching this closely. Who's to say it won't come to your neck of the woods?
Only at second reading by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 07:02 · Score: 3, Informative

http://www.parl.gc.ca/LegisInfo/Home.aspx?Language=E&Parl=41&Ses=1
Not that you shouldn't contact your MP, but this thing has got a bit to go yet.
1. Re:Only at second reading by Nerdfest · 2012-03-09 09:49 · Score: 3
  
  I actually just called mine and had a bit of a rant (at his assistant). If you have the time, it's probably worth more than an email.
Do not allow this madness the continue by Lunaritian · 2012-03-09 07:15 · Score: 4, Insightful

The main problem is that every time a country adopts stupid laws like this, it becomes easier to pass it in other countries too.
So please, Canada, make sure this law won't pass. This law isn't a threat just to you, it's a threat to the whole world.
Re:Where are they? by courteaudotbiz · 2012-03-09 07:18 · Score: 2

I don't believe "Anonymous" was only 2 people... (the one who got caught and the one who sold him).
Fuck the conservatives. by gmarsh · 2012-03-09 07:19 · Score: 5, Insightful

I think C-11 is an absolutely horrible bill.
- It allows warrantless monitoring of a person's internet activity, which is an inexcusable invasion of privacy.
- According to a law professor I've spoken to, it makes warrantless monitoring of my telephone legal since I'm using a VOIP telephone system provided by the cable company, and VOIP is just extra internet traffic. This is despite the fact that warrantless monitoring of a landline is highly illegal.
- Oh, and if I burn a copy of a DVD I own, I've broken a digital lock and I'm now I'm potentially liable for unlimited damages. They were nice enough to add a backup provision to C-11, except it's not applicable if you're breaking a digital lock.
Not to mention the fact it's being thrust on us by a majority government that got less than 50% of the overall vote at election time, may not actually have a legitimate majority thanks to the ongoing robocall scandal... and the whole fucking bill is being pushed on us with "support it or you're with the pedophiles" bullshit.
And here's what I've done about it:
- I've written my local (Conservative) MP about the bill, and got a template reply. Wrote back again, no response.
- I wrote a former (NDP) MP in my previous district, and got back a really great "100% with you on this, but unfortunately they've got a majority so all we can do is whine and complain in the house" e-mail.
What the frig else should I do?
1. Re:Fuck the conservatives. by dryeo · 2012-03-09 08:15 · Score: 2
  
  Pray the Supreme Court shows some sanity? Seems most parts of this law are unconstitutional from unreasonable searches to stepping on the Provinces toes by passing legislation regulating private property.
  Also be a bonus if a bunch of election results were thrown out forcing bye-elections and removing the Conservatives majority but I doubt that that would happen, they''ll just go on about it being anti-democratic and prorogue Parliament until people forget the truth and believe their attack ads.
  I'll write my MP again but he honestly believes the bullshit about intellectual property and if anything this law doesn't go far enough to protect the rights of the artists ctrl-w publishers.
  
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2. Re:Fuck the conservatives. by alexo · 2012-03-09 09:57 · Score: 2
  
  What the frig else should I do?
  Here are some suggestions, in no particular order:
  * Spread the message. Contact people electronically and in person to let them know that C-30, C-11 and their ilk are evil incarnate. Use facts but don't be afraid of hyperbole.
  * Get a commitment from the Liberal, NDP, Green and independent candidates in your riding to fight to revoke the parts of these bills you find unacceptable should they get elected, in return to your helping their campaign. Then choose one and HELP THEIR CAMPAIGN.
  * Talk to young people, middle- and high-school students in particular are not yet completely brainwashed. Explain to them that they do not want to live under a regimes that wants to make everyone a criminal for the sake of the for-profit jails. Some of them will be old enough to vote in the next election, some in the following ones. Start early. The older generations are most likely a lost cause.
  * Use easy-to-understand and hard-to-argue-against examples to frame the argument. E.g.:
  1) Want to watch your legally-bought DVD on your iPad or iPhone? Go to jail!
  2) What if your Ex's cousin is a dirty cop? They are now legally allowed to stalk you without court oversight!
  3) http://www.smbc-comics.com/comics/20120202.gif
  etc.
  * Share every little success that you have with your Conservative MP. Thank them for giving you the motivation to fight the good fight and remind them that you could be using all this energy to help THEM instead, if only they took a firm stand against C-20 and C-11.
  It's WAR. Start treating it like one.
My Email to my MP by Petersko · 2012-03-09 07:36 · Score: 4, Interesting

I'd like to take a moment to address the question of C-11. I have, in fact, read it in its entirety, since media coverage is never without bias.

http://www.parl.gc.ca/HousePublications/Publication.aspx?Docid=5144516&file=4

I'm sure you've heard from people who are far more rabid in their disdain for this legislation than I, and you've likely heard all of the arguments against it.

I will therefore restrict myself to declaring that, should this legislation pass, I will not be voting for you in the future. That is an unconditional promise.

Yours,

Petersko
Re:Eh by billcopc · 2012-03-09 07:38 · Score: 5, Insightful

It will be fun when our Amerifag P.M. says "hey BushBamaRomney our prisons are generating record profits thanks to SOPA", and this whole mess gets re-shoved down American citizens' throats, only this time without a last-minute reversal.
See, the funny thing about Canada is our fascist assclown of a fraudulently-elected leader likes to think of us as a beta 51st state. Whatever works here will serve as a case study for the U.S. administration, so your fascist assclowns can go live with the new and improved version of NeoConOS 2.0. Just as we carefully observe U.S. politics, you should be monitoring Canadian politics because they are very closely related on an ideological level.

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So many things wrong with this by Anonymous Coward · 2012-03-09 09:08 · Score: 4, Insightful

Before I get modded down, I just want to know that Truth is the first casualty in this war. Here are some facts:
- This is NOT the last chance to get Bill C-10 from getting to Canada, it has to go through the Senate (You screwed this up once Senate, don't screw it again). If they change even a word, it must go back to the House of Commons and start over.
- Online surveillance is NOT in Bill C-10, it's in Bill C-30 (I don't that bill either)
- This ISN'T SOPA, it's DMCA (annoying...)
- No, Anonymous wouldn't help this situation, since they tried to pressure Vic Toews on Bill C-30, and now they have an excuse to ram it through. Don't do it for Bill C - 11.
Re:Eh by Cyko_01 · 2012-03-09 09:56 · Score: 2

you laugh now, but wait until the RIAA takes another stab at it and says "every other country in the world already has laws like these"