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7-inch Google Tablet Coming From ASUS

First time accepted submitter Sez Zero writes "Google and ASUS have been collaborating on a co-branded 7-inch Android tablet, with a launch as early as May, according to sources, challenging low-cost rivals and the iPad with a $199-249 price tag. The fruits of the partnership, whispered to the runes readers at DigiTimes by industry sources, will take on the NOOK Tablet and the Kindle Fire, with ASUS selected for its willingness to flex to Google's requirements."

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  1. Google is going for low price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Which hurts the quality of the product and hardware. This has been a huge problem with Android - customers don't really know if they get a good product or not. When they get iPad or iPhone they know exactly that they will love the experience. Android ecosystem is a complete mess.

    1. Re:Google is going for low price by Kagetsuki · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Actually I'll call bullshit on this and for a good reason: I recently purchased an Asus Zenbook UX21. Up untill this point I have never purchased Asus gear and have always gone for Toshiba and Fujitsu notebooks which have never let me down. But this Zenbook was preposteriously inexepensive, exactly the form factor I needed, and immediately available so I went for it. I'm so glad I did - I love the thing. It's well constructed and has killer hardware, the screen is nice, the keyboard is nice, it even looks nice. There are some small complaints about it sure but they are negligable unless I want to spend twice the price for a Toshiba Ultrabook (which looks fantastic, but basically the same specs + some minor polish and a few bells and whistles at 2x the price).

      If anyone can pull off a great Android tablet on a budget it's Asus.

    2. Re:Google is going for low price by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Your stance is exactly why Apple can charge so outrageous prices for their products and get away with it.

      Seriously, most Android phones are excellent, are fast enough for their purpose and are well built. How many have you tried?

      When people compare Android phones to iPhones they often compare the CHEAPEST model to to the most expensive phone on the market! FAIL - try comparing a midrange price Android to an iPhone... most like 1/3 to 1/2 the price of the iPhone. Believe me, that phone just works.

      Go away, Apple fan boy.

    3. Re:Google is going for low price by symbolset · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Oh yeah, Android is horribly fragmented into camps that like physical keyboards or not, HD cams or no, front facing cams or not, items in pink, blue or prints.

      Android vendors have better margins even than Apple, and that's saying something. I enjoy choosing, so I like the mess that Android is.

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    4. Re:Google is going for low price by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      Price is a pretty major selling factor. That is called good capitalist practice.

      There are a number of things I want out of a tablet

      1. Not Apple
      2. Sensible price (as in #1)
      3. Configurable (as in #1)
      4. Not from a company that sees legal action as the prime means of dealing with competition (as in #1)
      5. Powerful
      6. Well made

      Why is number 1 there? I don't want something that is seen by some as an essential fashion accessory. I would rather do without. By a long way, not everyone who buys from Apple buys for that reason. I just to not want to be associated with that group that does.

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    5. Re:Google is going for low price by blind+biker · · Score: 2

      I think I agree. I bought two Asus netbooks (different generations) and both have been nothing but flawless in every aspect.

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    6. Re:Google is going for low price by BasilBrush · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I don't want something that is seen by some as an essential fashion accessory. I would rather do without.

      So, you're allowing your choice to be influenced by what others think of the brand. You might think that's anti-fashion, but actually, that's fashion.

      I just to not want to be associated with that group that does.

      You are following the fashion, every bit as much as punks who said their choice was about not wanting to be associated with glam rockers.

      Your list is just a way of justifying the fashion choice you've made. Just as a punk might have listed everything they found wrong with glam rock.

    7. Re:Google is going for low price by BasilBrush · · Score: 1, Insightful

      As usual Dilbert has is right.
      http://dilbert.com/strips/comic/2012-02-23/

    8. Re:Google is going for low price by Barbara,+not+Barbie · · Score: 5, Funny

      The bottom line is that Pads are going to replace TV.

      Are you insane? First, a 50" tablet is way too big to carry around. Second, the battery life would be absolutely terrible. Third, I like surround-sound.

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    9. Re:Google is going for low price by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      So you're a hipster. Well fucking done!

      Just because you can attach some trendy label (see what I did ) to someone doesn't make there opinion invalid. If you have a rational rebuttal then give it but insulting him just makes you look like a bully. And if you can't rebut him then either he is just giving his opinion which he's entitled to or he's giving facts in which case why are you arguing anyway? Maybe you need to crack open that Blue Ribbon.

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    10. Re:Google is going for low price by oakgrove · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It may not fit your preference for the carefully curated device and I do see advantages to the Apple way but consumers like choice even if it does effect app compatibility which is what this is really all about. People like low prices and some Androids deliver that. People like hardware keyboards and some Androids deliver that. People like huge honking screens (me!) and Android delivers on that as well. Hell, there are even nut balls that like Android on their wristwatch (what? Like you don't think its cool) and yes, judging by the rooted Motorola ACTV sitting on my nightstand, Android has delivered. You can scream fragmentation all day long but its a hollow cry as the consumers have spoke and continue to speak to the tune of 850,000 activations a day. Now that fact may offend your delicate sensibilities but guess what? You are just one person and you don't get to tell anybody else what to think.

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    11. Re:Google is going for low price by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      No, but using "there" instead of "their" does.

      I'm typing this on a tablet with auto correct but apparently not a grammar checker. Being a spelling/grammar nazi is about a half step above "your mom" in a debate, btw.

      Except the reply was pointing out that the person in question was every bit as fashion concious as the very people he was putting down, only the OP felt that they wanted something "different".

      Just like every other hipster.

      So? Did a Hipster fart in your Cheereos this morning? And since you so gleefully point out my errors, learn to spell conscious.

      The person replying is also entitled to their opinion. Not all opinions are valid and some are downright hypocritical.

      Like the OP.

      The opinion that boils down to basically "my opinion is basically that your opinion is wrong" is one of the exceptions to the all opinions being equally valid rule.

      Calm down dear, it's only a forum.

      You should definitely take your own advice.

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    12. Re:Google is going for low price by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Consumers like small choices and dislike big choices. Give them a choice of five they'll be happy, give them a choice of 50 they'll be unhappy.

      By that logic the iDevices are just more choice. What would you suggest we do? Take them off the market?

      The current success of Android is largely down two groups:

      Believe whatever you need to feel better about your own choice. Its your delusion. Normal people will continue getting what they want and ignoring the platform zealots like yourself.

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    13. Re:Google is going for low price by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      Your choice to not buy something (regardless of what it can do) simply because other people buy it is just as irrational as people who do buy it because other people do.

    14. Re:Google is going for low price by MrDoh! · · Score: 2

      Not replace for watching that same content, but by using more time up. Instead of sitting there passively watching... whatever, I've noticed my wife can't sit there and just have the TV on. She'll have the ipad on her lap, browsing Facebook, playing some daft word game. The shows change but it's more background noise than actual watching. THAT'S how tablets are.. not replacing for now, supplementing is probably fairer to say.

      If you used to spend (x) amount of time watching TV, how much time do you use a tablet? Do you subtract that time from TV watching?

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    15. Re:Google is going for low price by MrDoh! · · Score: 1

      True. I'd never bothered with Asus before either, but seeing how well made the EEE Transformer is, and how they're pushing the designs for newer tablets/laptops AND how they're supporting their equipment with updates, I'll be looking at them for future purchases. I know they've been around for ages, but looks like they're really stepping up and taking a spot in the usual line up of machines.

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    16. Re:Google is going for low price by Ihmhi · · Score: 2

      What they need is a good viral advertising campaign.

      7 inches... it's coming.

    17. Re:Google is going for low price by MagusSlurpy · · Score: 2

      She's watching the wrong kind of stuff on TV, then. I'll have my laptop out if I'm watching the news or my roommate has a game on, but when Breaking Bad or SoA is on, I'm glued to that screen.

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    18. Re:Google is going for low price by Gonoff · · Score: 1

      I never claimed my choice was completely rational. Wanting to not be associated with a particular group can be, at least partly, an emotional preference.

      Some of my other reasons are considered and rational though.

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    19. Re:Google is going for low price by symbolic · · Score: 1

      Now if ONLY Asus could meet its current commitments - I'm still waiting for a Transformer Prime.

    20. Re:Google is going for low price by shugah · · Score: 1

      Good thing they chose ASUS over Acer. I had an Acer Liquid-E - it was a total POS. Within 6 months I had it replaced 3 times. After about a month, the battery life would go down to about 20 minutes. After the 3rd replacement in 6 months, I prevailed upon my carrier to forward date my new hardware eligibility and got a Samsung Galaxy S (which as been great).

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    21. Re:Google is going for low price by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      By that logic the iDevices are just more choice. What would you suggest we do? Take them off the market?

      I'm not suggesting anything. I just like to correct the blanket statement that consumers like choice, or choice is good.

      Believe whatever you need to feel better about your own choice. Its your delusion. Normal people will continue getting what they want and ignoring the platform zealots like yourself.

      i.e. you have no counter argument. If there's any delusion, it's yours. The point about most Android owners not wanting to buy another in future is fact. Thus "continue to get what they want" will be bad news for Android.
      http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-01/tech/29974966_1_android-iphone-owners-gene-munster

    22. Re:Google is going for low price by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      i.e. you have no counter argument. If there's any delusion, it's yours

      Actually your talking points have been so thoroughly debunked ad nauseum that I let my sibling have it this time. Don't think so highly of yourself. your arguments aren't new. You didn't think of any of it and better men than you that actually did come up with that stuff have already been slapped down. Now go lick your wounds and hunt around on hacker news and engadget for a new playbook.

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    23. Re:Google is going for low price by visualight · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Anyone who buys a tablet that needs to be jailbroken or rooted is a sucker. What's special about a tablet that makes people think its okay to own only 90% of what you paid for?

      That people have to scour forums for how-to instructions and downloads to get really basic shit running on devices they *PAID* for is ridiculous, and watching people drool over the opportunity to do so is depressing. Idiocracy becoming reality right in front of us.

      If you can't install *ANY* OS you want natively, don't buy it.

      Fanboys and apologists please don't reply to my post, you're fucking up my world and I don't want to talk to you. People like you are why laptops are going to be next and then in a few years high quality, open computers of any form will be a thing of the past.

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    24. Re:Google is going for low price by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      LOL! How childish are you? What next? "You're rubber, I'm glue"? Stick your tongue out at me?

    25. Re:Google is going for low price by swillden · · Score: 1

      i.e. you have no counter argument. If there's any delusion, it's yours. The point about most Android owners not wanting to buy another in future is fact. Thus "continue to get what they want" will be bad news for Android. http://articles.businessinsider.com/2011-08-01/tech/29974966_1_android-iphone-owners-gene-munster

      Your article is based on a semi-formal survey of 217 smartphone users in Minneapolis.

      This article:

      http://allthingsd.com/20111212/youth-is-wasted-on-the-young-and-so-are-consumer-electronics/

      is based on a proper, randomized survey of 2000 households nationwide. The numbers of "loyal" users for Apple (83%) and Android (81%) are statically the same, because they're within the margin of error of the study, and both are very high.

      To put it another way, your cite is crap. Both Apple and Android users are very happy with their devices. Personally, I've had both, and really enjoyed both. When I switched from an iPhone 4 to a Nexus S (because for Google employees there are a number of useful internal apps which are Android-only, and because I was going to be doing some work on Android-related stuff) I did it with some trepidation. I really liked my iPhone and I was afraid the Android phone was going to be a step down, since I'd always heard it was much less polished. Within a week I was very glad I'd made the switch.

      I didn't find Android 2.2.3 to be significantly less polished than iOS, in fact in many areas I found it to be more usable. For example, I liked the Android home screens better than the Apple approach, and I was very pleased to note that when listening to an audio book or music and using the navigation app, the book/music were automatically paused whenever the navigation app gave directions, and then automatically resumed. A trivial issue, but one that had annoyed me for quite some time with my iPhone.

      And all of that was before I started digging into how I could tweak the behavior of the system to fit my preferences. When I started doing that, there was just no comparison, Android was so much more flexible -- and that's even without rooting (I have the phone connected to my corporate e-mail, so security policy disallows rooting or modified ROMs). So for me, Android is clearly better, and the upgrades to Android 4 and iOS 5 have widened the gap.

      That said, when I pick up my old iPhone (my wife has it now), I still find it quite nice to use. Both systems are, IMO, very usable and very powerful. I give the edge to Android, but I know others (including Google employees) who prefer iOS. It's a matter of taste, and the divide isn't even as large as Windows vs OS X, or either of those versus any flavor of Linux.

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    26. Re:Google is going for low price by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      You must have dug deep for that one. iPhones consistently top the customer satisfaction ratings by a huge margin.

      http://lmgtfy.com/?q=iphone+android+customer+satisfaction

      As your link is an outlier, with no primary source available, most probably it's a mis-quote of the survey. Or the survey wasn't a real one in the first place.

    27. Re:Google is going for low price by swillden · · Score: 1

      I didn't dig at all. I copied the link directly from one of the other posts that responded to you. It's certainly consistent with my personal experience.

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  2. Already a failure by Lumpy · · Score: 1, Interesting

    Android needs Horsepower and memory. 1 gig ram, dual core 1.2ghz processor, and at LEAST a 1024x768 screen res to be any real competition.

    If this does not have all of those, it is a failure as I can buy one of the other android tablets from a better company name, you can get the Samsung or Motorola tablets at Staples for $299-$399 right now and I know that hardware is better than ASUS.

    Come on ASUS, you guys used to know what you were doing. Now it's a year late and a processor core short.

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    1. Re:Already a failure by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Informative

      you can get the Samsung or Motorola tablets at Staples for $299-$399 right now and I know that hardware is better than ASUS.

      Sure the hardware is better, but it won't run anywhere near as well. If Samsung and Motorola have shown just one thing it's that they lack any competent programmers. I really did enjoy watching the dramas with RobustFS that Samsung released on their phones. You know you could quadruple and then some the I/O performance on the Galaxy S simply by converting the partition to ext4?

      Yes at the time the Galaxy S was quite mean hardware. Yet the version of Eclair they shipped was about the only version of Android that I have seen which would force close apps because they were taking too long to load due to the OS overhead. The only good thing Samsung ever did was not lock down the bootloader on their devices. Although I'm not sure they did this out of kindness but rather their engineers were too dumb to figure out how.

    2. Re:Already a failure by sl4shd0rk · · Score: 3, Informative

      Come on ASUS, you guys used to know what you were doing. Now it's a year late and a processor core short.

      Not sure where you're getting your hardware specs from as tfa says the hardware is unconfirmed at this point.

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    3. Re:Already a failure by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Unless you're from the future there is no possible way you can pronounce something a failure that you have never even laid your hands on or seen. Who farted in your cereal this morning?

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    4. Re:Already a failure by Surt · · Score: 1

      Well, TFA says 1280x800. And 1.2 ghz processor is pretty much a given, there's almost nothing they could equip it with these days slower than that. 1.5 or 1.8 is more likely. 1 gig ram seems pretty likely too. So it seems this device has pretty good odds of delivering what you want.

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    5. Re:Already a failure by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Then the opposite of that is true as well, that you cannot pronounce it as a success either.

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    6. Re:Already a failure by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Then the opposite of the opposite of the opposite of that is the inverse proportionate of...your point?

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    7. Re:Already a failure by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      I guess you have not been keeping up with developments on the GS. Since Gingerbread the performance boost from converting to ext4 has been pretty marginal because the phone is damn fast anyway. Not quite as fast as a vanilla Nexus S, I'll grant you, but very smooth and responsive. Samsung got their shit together.

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    8. Re:Already a failure by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Ha. Sorry yes they did fix *SOME* things, but overall the experience still pales in comparison to CM7 of the time.

      Mind you what you're saying is not much of a defence. If it takes 2 MAJOR operating system releases spanned across 2 years to fix something that the hobby community solved within a few weeks it doesn't paint a shining example of "having their shit together".

      That and I've had a play with their honeycomb tablets too which given the hardware also seem to be very poor in performance where it matters.

    9. Re:Already a failure by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      Yes. RFS is "Robust" in that it is FAT16 with journaling and permissions shoehorned into it.

  3. Yep. by symbolset · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Count me in for four at least for my own house, and as many for gifts for Christmas.

    I'm ot sure where you're going with that 1984 rhetoric though. This stuff works for us, it delivers modern innovation - and yet it lets us do with it what we will. That's not the same thing at all as the dystopian vision you portend.

    Have you some credible source, some study or even some analyst to call dire outcomes? Surely you must. Your fear, show me it.

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    1. Re:Yep. by miknix · · Score: 1

      Count me in for four at least for my own house

      Same here, I've been waiting for some kind of incentive to buy one to my parents - this might be it.

    2. Re:Yep. by hairyfeet · · Score: 1, Insightful

      Actually it doesn't sound like 1984 to me, more "Brave New World" where we basically drown in info overload. Considering that now one can live their life with all the info tailor made for whatever myopic view they have and you can have damned near anything fed ex to your doorstep so you never even have to leave your cave?

      "You sharpen the human appetite to the point where it can split atoms with its desire; you build egos the size of cathedrals; fiber-optically connect the world to every eager impulse; grease even the dullest dreams with these dollar-green, gold-plated fantasies, until every human becomes an aspiring emperor, becomes his own God... and where can you go from there? "

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    3. Re:Yep. by arisvega · · Score: 1

      That's not the same thing at all as the dystopian vision you portend.

      Yes, I agree: it is a completely different dystopian version, as is anything less than The Happy Hunting Grounds- but if you carry any tablet there, you 'll be laughed at at the door. By mountain Lions.

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    4. Re:Yep. by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 2

      What are you on about? He knows it's got a 7-inch display, he knows about how much it costs, he knows what software it runs. Does it really matter if the processor is 1.4GHz vs. 1GHz, or it has two cameras instead of one? You'll be able to use it to read books and watch videos either way.

      And if he needs four of them, the difference between $800 vs. $2000 for 4 x iPad3 is $1200. That is no small amount of cash. You could use it as half the 20% down payment on a house for crying out loud. (Or you could get a little less than half a Mac Pro, whichever.)

      You don't have to take it personally every time someone makes a decision that reduces the ever-shrinking likelihood that Apple will maintain its dominant position in the tablet market.

    5. Re:Yep. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      You suck because you drive a Ford. My dad drives a Chevy and it's the best!

      WTF. Are you guys all 14 years old or what?

    6. Re:Yep. by Anthony+Mouse · · Score: 2

      Obvious troll is obvious. You might want to look up the difference between "can't afford it" and "worse value for money."

    7. Re:Yep. by oakgrove · · Score: 1

      Couldn't have been too well played considering he's sitting on a big fat -1 Troll for his trouble. Not only that but the specs are pretty much a given. 1+ GHz proc 1280x800 screen, 1 GB RAM, Android 4.0+ 250 dollar or less price point. Damn facts always getting in the way. :)

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    8. Re:Yep. by dj245 · · Score: 1

      Count me in for four at least for my own house, and as many for gifts for Christmas.

      What are you waiting for? You can get the Novo 7 advanced II for $130, or the Ramos W6HD for $144 right now. Both have capacative 7" touch screens with multitouch. Both run Android 4 Ice cream sandwich. The only difference with the Asus one is the brand name and the slightly-higher resolution screen compared with the Ramos. $200-$250 is "I gotta think about it" money. Under $150 falls into "compulsive buy" for some people.

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  4. It's about the software by thegarbz · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Actually it's quite the opposite. Every device Google has had a personal hand in designing has been one perfect experience after the other. It is typically the handset manufacturers who are unable to code decent software, then the carriers who load the devices up with junk that ruin the experience.

    I have an ancient phone, yet I run CM9 on it. It is far smoother than phones twice as expensive, rather new, and spouting features like dual core processors depending on who had a hand in making the software.

    I for one am excited about what google can come up with in this partnership.

    1. Re:It's about the software by oakgrove · · Score: 2

      I use lots of Bluetooth devices. You could almost call me a Bluetooth fan boy if there was such a thing and never not once has my Nexus S exhibited the behavior you are describing. And that is on a stock ROM. Not everything is perfect but you could cite examples of bugs in every device ever invented. I've been very happy with my S during the course of its life and only replaced it when the much superior Galaxy Nexus was released.

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  5. Android vs Linux performance? by G3ckoG33k · · Score: 1

    Has anyone seen an Android vs Linux performance comparison?

    Android on tablets may actually be a nice sneak gate to native Linux usage on tablets.

    1. Re:Android vs Linux performance? by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      By what metric? Given that Android uses a Linux kernel and similar drivers there are many parts of the system which should be equal in speed (thinking file system performance). But then there's also parts of Android that would be majorly let down in performance terms (such as UI rendering on pre ICS models which didn't support hardware acceleration nor give the UI a high thread priority).

    2. Re:Android vs Linux performance? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1
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    3. Re:Android vs Linux performance? by thegarbz · · Score: 1

      How is posting links which talk about how much has been changed and added to UI rendering in ICS / Honeycomb, and that the UI runs in a default priority in any way evidence that what I said is "Not True?"

    4. Re:Android vs Linux performance? by AmiMoJo · · Score: 1

      A) The UI is hardware accelerated where appropriate

      B) There isn't a UI thread in the same way as iOS has one because it doesn't make sense in a multi-tasking environment, so his statement doesn't make sense. The display is a composite of windows anyway.

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  6. GPS? by Dr.Dubious+DDQ · · Score: 1

    Maybe I'm weird, but aside from not caring until they hit <$200, the main thing missing from tablets that I might otherwise be interested in is GPS. If I buy a tablet, I want to be able to use it as a portable map (with better resolution than "you're somewhere within a mile or so of here") and maybe the occasional "augmented reality" application (e.g. Mixare). That's not ALL I'd want it for, of course, but its lack drops a tablet below my level of interest. Am I the only one? (And am I mistaken, or would adding GPS add no more than perhaps $2 to the marginal cost of each tablet these days?)

    1. Re:GPS? by kwardroid · · Score: 2

      "And am I mistaken, or would adding GPS add no more than perhaps $2 to the marginal cost of each tablet these days?"

      Don't know about the costs, but all gps enabled devices I have seem to have the GPS and 3G "glued together" on 1 chip. I guess it's to get AGPS to work. Adding a standalone GPS might be cheap, but it will take ages to get a fix.

    2. Re:GPS? by tgeek · · Score: 1

      As you say, adding a GPS radio to a tablet would probably only marginally increase the cost. But the deal breaker for the manufacturers is the big drain on battery life. And that seems to be a huge bullet item on the marketing spec sheets. Personally, GPS is a feature I want and if the tablet doesn't have an important feature I want, then really battery life becomes irrelevant to me. I guess I'm not an average consumer . . .

    3. Re:GPS? by RobbieThe1st · · Score: 1

      To be honest, you're right. Not to mention most tablets have horrible battery life anyway.
      I'd love to see someone add an extra 1/4 or even 1/2 inches to the thickness of a given device and cover the thing with another 20aH of capacity. Enough to run apps for several days if not a week or more!

    4. Re:GPS? by ceoyoyo · · Score: 1

      GPS costs a bit more than $2. But the big problem is that it's slow. You can get around that by putting in a cellular radio too, but that costs even more.

      You CAN get your map if you want. Either buy a tablet with a 3G radio and a GPS, or buy one without and a GPS tracker with a bluetooth connection.

    5. Re:GPS? by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

      I don't consider 10 hours horrible battery life. Then again, I've never used an android tablet for longer than 15 minutes at a time, and can only speak for the ipad series.

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  7. Finally; Hopefully Google and Asus Delivers by oakgrove · · Score: 3, Interesting
    I have a Xoom and an iPad. When the Xoom had HC on it the iPad got a lot of use as Honeycomb was a little too raw. But the day ICS as installed on this device the iPad was sat down and hasn't been picked up since. The experience has been wonderful. Even this tegra2 flies with Android 4.0 on it. All of the apps I have ever looked for have been available even apps to mmake apps right on the device itself. How cool is that? Nothing as complex as a modern smartphone or tablet will ever be perfect but the TMobile Nexus S and now Verizon Galaxy Nexus have been nothing short of superb. Fast fluid stable fun. Every Thing I've wanted in one of these devices and I've used them all. In my collection I have an iPad an HD7 windows phone, a Nokia N770 mid, and several Android devices.

    Android OEMs have struggled by themselves but with Google's help and Asus' engineering they could come up with something really great at a price point that is easily palatable by people not well off enough to afford 4 and 5 hundred dollar plus devices.The naysayers should wait until something is delivered before throwing irrational hate at a piece of circuitry and glass they've never even touched.

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    1. Re:Finally; Hopefully Google and Asus Delivers by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 1

      I have a Xoom and an iPad. When the Xoom had HC on it the iPad got a lot of use as Honeycomb was a little too raw. But the day ICS as installed on this device the iPad was sat down and hasn't been picked up since. The experience has been wonderful. Even this tegra2 flies with Android 4.0 on it.

      While this is all anecdotal, I've had exactly the same experience with Asus Transformer - nice form factor but software was consistently underwhelming when it was Honeycomb. With ICS, it's like it's a completely different device.

  8. Re:ASUS by oakgrove · · Score: 1

    It can't take on the iPad with Fire-like specifications.

    Actually it can and for two reasons. First of all, it isn't competing in the same price range as the iPad and judging from the success of the Fire and Nook, there are millions of budget conscious tablet buyers and there are likely many millions more. Secondly the specs of the Fire are fine. It's just loaded down with Amazon's UI gunk and an older build of Android that doesn't have the modern features of Ice Cream Sandwich and soon to be released Jelly Bean. The biggest issue being lack of video acceleration in the Fire. My Nexus s has this and with inferior specs to my GF's Fire it runs rings around it. Some people have installed ics on their Fires and reported marked improvements in performance. With the right mix of marketing, hardware and price here Google and Asus could have a very compelling proposition for the consumer and I'm excited to see what they will do.

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  9. Part of me wonders... by LiroXIV · · Score: 1

    Are they going to make it part of the Nexus series? Lemme see... Nexus Slate? Nexus Tab?

  10. Re:Google scares me by oakgrove · · Score: 2

    There many things to worry about in this world all the way up with the existential things like war and famine. Getting ads that might actually show me something that appeals to me in exchange for the great things Google provides I'd pretty far down on my list of fears. Matter of fact I'll have to check but I'm pretty sure it didn't even make the cut.

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  11. Re:YAT by oakgrove · · Score: 1

    You could always just not buy it. You could probably completely ignore it and be just fine.

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  12. Re:YAT by pseudofrog · · Score: 1

    Oh no I'm being overwhelmed with choices!

  13. no one wants low res tablets by Surt · · Score: 1

    Apple got one thing right on ipad3 ... high res. High enough for movie playback to have acceptable quality at last. Manufacturers figure it out: there is a large segment of the population waiting for tablets that do at least 1080p natively so they can be used to watch movies.

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    1. Re:no one wants low res tablets by rtb61 · · Score: 1

      The bulk of the population will spend money on phones and big screen TVs, then a notebook and then on everything else other than a tablet. Unless that tablet is throw away cheap.

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    2. Re:no one wants low res tablets by Surt · · Score: 1

      It's easy to tell the difference because the scaling artifacts suck. It's not about the pixel density, it's about matching the native resolution so you don't scale.

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  14. Re:YAT by nurb432 · · Score: 1

    Choices can be good in concept, but a market flood of them just dilutes things and you end up with a lot of crap with nothing being of any real value.

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  15. Re:Linux Trojan: Linux/Bckdr-RKC: Is it SPOOK ware by RobbieThe1st · · Score: 1

    Mod parent up. If you've lost root, well, erm, whoever has the password has full control, why bother installing a trojan?
    Seems silly to me - just install whatever payload you need, customize it to the compromized box.

  16. Re:Yes? by oakgrove · · Score: 1

    The tablet with the best battery life is running Android. Try to keep up so you don't look silly next time.

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  17. Re:yes! by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

    Well... If that's your problem, you have bigger ones...

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  18. This is untrue by manekineko2 · · Score: 1

    It's rarely about preferring Android phones. And even where it is, it's mostly an uneducated preference. When Android owners are asked whether they will buy another Android in future, most say no. Amongst iPhone owners, most say they will buy another iPhone.

    This is just not true.

    "83 percent of current iPhone users intend to buy an iPhone again this holiday season; 81 percent of Android OS users said the same."

    Source:
    http://allthingsd.com/20111212/youth-is-wasted-on-the-young-and-so-are-consumer-electronics/

  19. The Perfect Shitty Size by gelfling · · Score: 1

    Too small for useful use and too large to be portable. Awesome.

    1. Re:The Perfect Shitty Size by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      I 100% disagree. From experience. In my view, smart phones are too small to be useful, and many are too large to be a good phone. 10" is definitely too large to be portable (might as well haul around a smallish laptop at that point), too heavy and awkward to hold comfortably. 7" can fit into a purse, pocket (jeans or suit, even with a case on it), backpack, or whatever you want while still having plenty of space to do everything I could want. It's also a convenient size for holding with one hand.

      But, really, could it be that 7" is too small for the way you want to use it? Yeah, never mind that other people have different needs.

  20. Re:YAT by oakgrove · · Score: 1

    Maybe 2-8 choices are cool, but a flooded market is a nightmare to navigate.

    You must go apoplectic in the cereal aisle.

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  21. Re:yes! by couchslug · · Score: 1

    If those are the actual effects _on_you_, I strongly recommend suicide as you are wasting useful oxygen.

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  22. Why ASUS? by substance2003 · · Score: 1

    ...with ASUS selected for its willingness to flex to Google's requirements.

    Maybe I'm missing something here but didn't google purchase Motorola not so long ago?
    Does Motorola not make tablets themselves?

    How can ASUS be more willing to flex to Google's requirements over Motorola?
    Unless perhaps Google has others plans for Motorola?
    I wish the article had said something in regards to this.

    1. Re:Why ASUS? by John+Hasler · · Score: 1

      > ...didn't google purchase Motorola...

      No.

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    2. Re:Why ASUS? by c++0xFF · · Score: 1

      They haven't yet sealed the deal, and who knows what antitrust issues might be involved as well.

    3. Re:Why ASUS? by EvilJoker · · Score: 1

      Google is buying Motorola. It has not yet completed.

      Presumably, the reason has more to do with brand cohesion, specifically things like BLUR. Everyone already has expectations of what to expect with a Motorola Android device. These expectations will be broken (for better or for worse) on a "Nexus" device. Since ASUS is largely unknown to U.S. consumers, there is little in the way of expectations.

      Alternatively, it should be noted that Pegatron, which is a spinoff from ASUS (and is still their primary ODM/mfg back-end) also makes gear for Apple (including the iPad 3), which could have its own advantages.

  23. Re:Vitriol by arkane1234 · · Score: 1

    It's not about android, that's been around for a while and lots here use it. It's the android fanbois on top of the idea that... It's an Asus hardware. I mean, seriously... We all see their quality and flare for superior hardware design, right? (/tongue-in-cheek humor)

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  24. Digitimes by 3263827 · · Score: 1

    Digitimes Digitimes Digitimes

    Such an accurate source.

  25. Re:yes! by aynoknman · · Score: 2

    If those are the actual effects _on_you_, I strongly recommend suicide as you are wasting useful oxygen.

    He's not wasting useful oxygen, he's converting it into much more useful CO2.

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  26. Re:Linux Trojan: Linux/Bckdr-RKC: Is it SPOOK ware by bmo · · Score: 1

    Don't bother replying to him. There's a reason why he gets modded into oblivion every time on Slashdot.

    He's off his meds again.

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  27. Re:OakGOOF caught stalking others by ac posts by oakgrove · · Score: 1

    Ha ha ha. Hey, stupid. I just got around to bothering to check your links. Have you even read them? In all of them I'm owning you and getting modded up while you are sitting at 0 and -1. What a jackass. That's your problem Alexander. You don't check your work. That's why you are the host file and secunia "troll". When people fact check you you're always wrong. That must do terrible things to your psyche.

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