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T-Mobile Exec Calls For End To Cell Phone Subsidies

MojoKid writes "T-Mobile's Chief Marketing Officer Cole Brodman has an interesting idea for revamping the mobile industry, and it involves killing the subsidy plans that have driven smartphone adoption over the past five years. Asked what one thing he'd change if he had the power to do so, Brodman pointed to subsidy programs. 'It [device subsidies] actually distorts what devices actually cost and it causes OEMs, carriers — everybody to compete on different playing fields ...' Brodman isn't kidding about an irregular playing field. The HTC Titan is the most subsidized device in the chart seen here (unsubsidized at $549, $0.01 on contract). Microsoft is obviously desperate to gain market share in mobile but both the iPhone 4S and the Galaxy Note carry $400+ discounts too. The cheapest smartphone AT&T offers without a subsidy is the thoroughly mediocre HTC Status, for $349. To add insult to injury, it's only available in mauve. It's an interesting idea, but practically unworkable as far as the mass market is concerned. Carriers have built a market structure in which consumers gladly accept a new bauble every 18 months in exchange for paying for text messaging (which literally costs carriers nothing) and overage charges in which 300MB of data for $20 is a fair market value."

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  1. How it works in Finland by Anssi55 · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's how it works here in Finland:
    You either
    a) buy the phone yourself (HTC Titan is ~590 EUR ~= 773 USD), and then have a plan without a phone. Example plans:
    0.66e / month, 0.066e / min, 0.066e / sms
    3.90e / month, includes 3000min in-network calls, others 0.069e/min, 0.069e/sms
    38.90e / month, 3000 min to all networks, 3000 sms messages.
    Unlimited non-NATted incoming-ports-open mobile broadband (HSPA+, max 15Mbps) is 13.90e / month (other speed classes exist), or 20.85e / month total for an extra SIM card ("MultiSIM") + USB modem (i.e. you get unlimited broadband in both your phone and computer for that price).
    These contract are normally non-fixed-term, so you can cancel/switch operators anytime. Note that in Finland only outgoing calls are paid by the mobile user, incoming calls are paid by the caller (mobile numbers have a separate number block).

    or b) buy a plan with a phone. This is a bit different from the US subsidies in that you pay *nothing* up-front, and the plans are actually the same as in (a) above, but there is an additional separate monthly cost for the phone. However, the "subsidy" is very small, only a few percents (e.g. HTC Titan total additional cost is 576 EUR, just 2.5% below normal market price). These are generally 2 year contracts. AFAIK these kind of bundling contracts are generally not allowed, but a special time-limited law was enacted in 2006 allowing such contracts to be made for 3G phones only, and it has been extended at least once since.

    The prices above are for Saunalahti, but other carriers have very similar pricing and plans.

    At least my impression from all this is that we seem to pay more for the phones, but our plans are otherwise way cheaper (when compared to the US)...

  2. Re:There needs to be a way to avoid the subsidy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    On T-mobile it is. I paid $400 for my phone and am saving $200 over the life of the contract. And yes, I did factor the up-front cost of the phone into the calculation.

  3. Re:There needs to be a way to avoid the subsidy. by Olivier+Galibert · · Score: 5, Informative

    Wow, and here in France for $27/month we get unlimited voice, unlimited text and 3Gb of data. And you can stop whenever you want without cost. You guys are really getting fucked sideways.

        OG.

  4. Re:Apple is killing text messaging by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    That's not what happens at all. If an iPhone user sends you a message, the iPhone checks with Apple's server. If the recipient's number is registered as an iOS device it gets transmitted as an iMessage. If not, it gets sent as a plain old text message.

    If you're getting unreadable multimedia files from iPhone users it's likely that it's a contact card (VCF) attachment or map data.