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Apple To Add 3600 Jobs At New $304 Million Campus In Austin
An anonymous reader links to a short note at Tech Newest, according to which "Apple Inc. plans to create a $304 million campus in Austin, Texas, which will add 3,600 jobs over the next decade, more than doubling its labourforce in the city. The Cupertino, California, customer device [maker] already employs thousands in Austin, whose tasks include handling customer issues and support."
Awesome. I for one can't wait to hear about the turf war between Dell's Round Rock campus and this new Apple Dumpling gang.
Consistency is only a virtue if you're not a screw-up.
This comment had better grammar than the summary.
Hey, workers need a place to live, right?
this one sounded just like my last tech support call...
device huge?
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Steve Jobs wouldn't be down with this shit. Silicon Valley for life, bitches!
TFS: "[Apple] already employs thousands in Austin..."
"Convictions are more dangerous enemies of truth than lies."
In Austin there are plenty of ex-Dell support center staff who'd (presumably) need very little training.
Now, if you'll excuse me, I have backups to corrupt.
3,600 Jobs? That's one hell of a cloning operation.
But human cloning is illegal in the USA.
California has seen a lot of people leaving over the last two years. If things keep up there will be a mass exodus. If major tech companies start expanding elsewhere ... owww. California will be hurting.
If you're scared of your govt then you need to further restrict its powers
Vote 3rd Party in 2016 and beyond
...that while the [new] facility will be "top of the line", most of the jobs associated with that facility will be minimum wage jobs.
You might wonder how:
The top jobs will definitely require skill and some serious experience. But the folks who will be doing these jobs will need to eat, have their laundry done, work in a clean environment etc. Fact: These folks will not make more than minimum wage.
The other jobs will be mostly done by machine (read computers). These will range from air quality control, monitoring systems, security and the like. To make matters "worse", monitoring of these systems will be most likely be done by some human being in Oregon.
How do I know? I know because some other major technology company in the same state does exactly the same, and I visited their facility late last year.
Apple is based in North Austin (see satellite map of the campus). It's currently 4 buildings and they have room to add more building right in that area. They currently employ around 3500 people in their Austin corporate office (at least from the press releases I saw). If you poke around Apple's jobs website you'll find around 64 open positions in the Austin office, mainly around support and sales. Their only engineering type roles have to do working with their suppliers in Austin (Samsung, Intel, AMD, FreeScale, and IBM all have offices down here).
I'm little sad they have no real engineering/development in Austin, but they seem to like keeping all of their people working on the same product in the same offices. Spreading an engineering force globally can cause communication issues, so they seem to avoid it.
Its not what it is, its something else.
I don't think there is a city in the USA that is more fitting to liking Apple. Liberal and progressive yet at the same time having looking and appearing cool as priorities.
In a city that is in part defined by adherence to trends, Apple having a huge base there is fitting. Very fitting.
If you ignore ACs because they are anonymous - you're an idiot.
the interesting point about this isn't the jobs themselves (though any new jobs now a days is a positive), but the type of jobs. Customer Service and Support which have been getting out sourced to India and Malaysia (I believe was the other prime location) are being kept in-house.
We're not over the first one yet!
(ok, that was tasteless, but hey, I got Karma to burn)
We used to have a Bill of Rights. Now, with the rights gone, all we have left is the bill.
Who know,, Apple going to blow our mind with spectacular products in this year.
WTF is a customer device huge?
There are many copies. And they have a plan.
all your customer device huge are belong to us
"If any question why we died, Tell them because our fathers lied."
For a moment I thought they had cloned Jobs and will stock the clones in a multi-million dollar facility for safeguarding.
Maybe Apple can dip into that huge cash supply to fix the traffic in Austin.
Looks like Apple is working hard to counter all of the bad publicity from their Chinese slave labor factories.
For the world's most valuable company, this is peanuts.
I don't read your sig. Why are you reading mine?
Why does it cost $50,000 per employee to build a new campus? I think $30 million at $5,000 per employee is much more reasonable.
The only reason apple is expanding is austin & TX had the highest bid, 21 mil state, 8.6 mil city. See http://www.statesman.com/business/apple-plans-3-600-new-jobs-for-austin-2228637.html for details. Note the high number is always the headline, 3600, but the actual number may be as low as 650. Personally, I think it should be completely forbidden for any govt entity to waive taxes/give incentives to sway a company to locate. It just turns it into a bidding war, and the people who lose the most are the locals.
This is a case why temporary work should not exist, and that contractors largely shouldnt either. They represent a lack of trust for the workers, and this is a good case for such regulation to exist.
Make the costs for temporary work (of any type, including oncall) on par with FTE work. More levels of indirection or short contracts? Congratulations, you have to provide more benefits than an FTE worker would have received. Then have a part of it that states that raising the requirements is an illegal circumvention measure.
Get rid of all the ways business can fuck with a worker, and things get better.
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Not only did it get rid of a large cash-register company(NCR), Georgia did all it could to sneak everything out before people noticed that a 125 year old company was gone.
Safe to say Georgia is looked down upon by many for uprooting that company. Not so much blood feud, but any business association or government entity in Georgia is as welcome in Ohio as Art Modell is in Cleveland(for doing similar to the Cleveland Browns).
If you got rid of that by federal law or Constitutional amendment, you would single handedly make every "economic development" organization/department in the South go dead or idle. That part of the US doesnt develop, it just steals from the North and West.
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we have huge amounts of free land, and very low cost's. boo fucking hoo NCR moved, maybe you should stop blaming other states and take a look at whats wrong with yours
Get rid of all the ways business can fuck with a worker, and things get better.
By implementing government regulations that in the end will just fuck the employee over even more. Sorry, no thanks. Freedom is less regulations, not more.
The summary is a good candidate to be sent to that site
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...like these...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d1CiREY462I
This looks alot like a typical over-hiring scenario. 5-10 yrs down the road (or less?) Apple will probably have equally large layoffs. I know it sounds improbably right now, but their meteoric rise is unsustainable. Business boom cycles don't last forever.
apple deserves everything they are getting, because they tried to market themselves as 'different' all these years, appealing to the hipster intellectual urban middle-upper creative class. its their own goddamned fault, since this is the same class that tends to get jobs at human rights foundations, media organizations, and push for labor rights.
the 'audits' are a fucking joke. unions are still illegal in china, and there are still no environmental laws or worker safety laws. (laws, being, the law itself, and then a bureaucracy capable and willing to enforce the law... the latter always seems to fall down in top-down communist systems)
"Given the overpriviledged spoiled attitude of most young folks today,"
right. because anyone who wants to say, get treated for leukemia, is 'overpriviledged' and 'spoiled'. a woman who wants to get counseling after being raped, well, thats 'spoiled'.
of course, if you get a hundred million dollar bullshit IT-"security" contract/grant from the military industrial complex, thats not 'spoiled', thats 'working hard'.
be able to go on the floor and see how long he would last. i'd give that fucker two weeks, then i would throw him on the 'low skill' pile and tell him to get a job more suited to his capabilities, like being a janitor. at least there are no queue stats when you are scrubbing a shit stain out of a toilet.
the mortgage bubble affected real estate in california so that prices were artificially inflated to the point that average people could not afford to find a house. they left for places east, even South Dakota's Black Hills saw an influx of california mortgage-bubble refugees.
Go away communist...
As a unashamed US citizen, I stand by my words and stand my ground.
Some of the best times I ever had were doing contract work. Nice thing about contract work is I did not have to care at all about the companies I worked at. I came in, punched the clock, did my stuff, punched the clock, went home. There were many years after I left high school where i worked at jobs during college that had no benes at all. I think the first job I got with benes came 6 years after college.
Then you've had a lot of bad employers. Try having some employers that didn't make contract work look good and not reward the bad ones by allowing contract work to exist. They do exist, and generally do right by their own. I've even worked for a fairly large company that surprisingly has done well by their employees, as well as knowing others that live by the old ideal that happy (and directly hired) employees are productive ones.
For all the young folks coming up, don't expect benes in any job you get. Why? It costs the companies lots of money. Given the overprivileged spoiled attitude of most young folks today, why should a company bother giving them benes when the company knows the young folks feel no loyalty to that company. If a job opens up elsewhere that pays more money, the young folks leave. Like I said, no loyalty at all.
You and your misguided thinking are the reason for the eroding loyalty and burnout. Blaming it on some bromide of entitlement is wrong since the businesses had created the environment, made the choice to depart from good wisdom, and made the choice to suffer from worker disloyalty.
If loyalty and balance has to be restored through the legislative process, it reflects how far things have sunk from a balance between worker and business. Your path is worse than your claims of Communism, it follows the path of business-directed despotism.
It's a real tough job market out there today. I remember when I could jump from FTE job to FTE job just through a few phone calls and paperwork. Now it is difficult to find FTE jobs since most low-level and some mid-level office work is now overseas. Now I am glad that I stuck with the company I work for now. The pay increases a bit every year. The bonuses are nice, but I never could on getting those. The benes are decent, not gold-plated, but decent. My own work responsibilities have increased, mainly because the young folks coming in after me don't stick with it, or they just lousy work and deserve to be fired.
The more reason to hold business' feet to the fire. All that business has done is complain and try to avoid prosperity unless the political landscape is favorable to them. They make excuses about skill but refuse to do the training for the people that are available, avoid citizens in every way possible, or use things like contract labor to exact fear-based "savings" on the remaining citizens.
Get rid of contract employment, start encouraging loyalty from beginning to end, and paying attention to morale more closely. The more loyalty that there exists between a worker and his/her direct-hire company(no, not a staffing firm), the greater balance & understanding that exists between the two entities. Non-FTE employment (and all other non-permanent forms of employment) imply a distrust of & disloyalty for the person doing the work.
I think the real lesson is this: Good pay and good benes come with time at most Fortune 500 companies. Stop your whining and do your time.
The problem is that the GP poster said something about being a temporary employee forever, implying that they would never be able to do enough time.
Either treat people well voluntarily and with some loyalty, or have the government enforce it by law. I prefer the voluntary method, but I am willing to have the law restore a balance that business has tried to erode away by their own hand.
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To be fair, Michael Dell started that company. So he does know a thing or two about building and troubleshooting PCs. Or at the very least, the concept given how much the technology has changed over the years. But sure, I agree. I don't think he would last a week without proper up-to-date training. He has since moved on to a more important role. While anyone can manage and lead a company, very very few can do so successfully. It's why leadership, vision, and knowing when to stay the course are all exceptional virtues so many lack.
Life is not for the lazy.
Jeez, one Jobs was enough
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