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Yahoo Files Patent Infringement Suit Against Facebook

An anonymous reader writes with an excerpt from an article over at ZD Net: "As expected, Yahoo today filed a patent infringement lawsuit against Facebook. The online giant is claiming the social networking giant infringes on 10 of its patents. Yahoo is hoping to secure some portion of Facebook's revenues moving forward. 'Yahoo! has invested substantial resources in research and development through the years, which has resulted in numerous patented inventions of technology that other companies have licensed,' a Yahoo spokesperson told AllThingsD. 'These technologies are the foundation of our business that engages over 700 million monthly unique visitors and represent the spirit of innovation upon which Yahoo! is built. Unfortunately, the matter with Facebook remains unresolved and we are compelled to seek redress in federal court. We are confident that we will prevail.'"

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  1. I don't know whether to laugh or cry by multiben · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The quantity of time and energy these guys spend suing each other is staggering. It is sad to see other parts of the world (Australia) following the US example in this field rather than learning from it.

    1. Re:I don't know whether to laugh or cry by olsmeister · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And during the golden age of technology, when computers ran faster than ever before and all the far flung corners of the world were connected and able to communicate instantaneously, the most lucrative profession a young geek could aspire to was ... lawyer.

    2. Re:I don't know whether to laugh or cry by IndustrialComplex · · Score: 4, Funny

      He did. I sued him and won his business.

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  2. yahoo started out as Jerry Yang's "Favorites" by decora · · Score: 4, Interesting

    and im sorry but im guessing someone had a patent on 'selection of high quality linkage indicators in a computer network' if they looked hard enough.

    if yahoo has anything, it is a right to join the corrupt backstabbing club of big tech giants who are all shaking each other down with lawyers playing the role of 'knee-cap breaker'. its very similar to how the mafia controls a neighborhood. each 'family' has 'turf' and 'agreements' to get cuts of various businesses. and they are always fighting amongst each other and threatening to wipe each other out.

    meanwhile, ordinary people are just trying to build stuff, make a small profit, and live a normal life. not die with a mountain of cocaine piled on top of our desk.

    1. Re:yahoo started out as Jerry Yang's "Favorites" by SadButTrue · · Score: 4, Funny

      Speak for yourself..

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    2. Re:yahoo started out as Jerry Yang's "Favorites" by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 5, Funny

      say hello to my leetle eenjunction!

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  3. Re:Troll-dam dam da by ae1294 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Then why not sue years ago when they had more money? Yahoo! is circling the bowl. We all know it....

  4. Re:More obvious, trivial junk patents by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Funny how 99.99% of all of the software and hardware you use every day was ineligible for patent protection or otherwise created without bothering with it. It's almost as if patents are just another economic racket associated with living in a lawyer-ridden society, or something.

  5. Re:More obvious, trivial junk patents by robbak · · Score: 4, Informative

    Yahoo was never a search engine. The were one of the "hand made index" school. When that idea proved unworkable, they started adding other's real search engine results to their indexed entries.

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  6. The most popular degree is law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When you have 1 in 3 students in the USA taking a major in law what did you think would happen ?

    "Among those seeking a doctorate or professional degree, law was the No. 1 choice among men and women. There were nearly three times as many men and women becoming attorneys as there were earning a medical degree"
    source

    with all those lawyers itching to use their new found knowledge who are also in 6 digit debt to get their degree, and desperate does what desperate can, nothing clarifies the mind quite like a debt collector banging your door at 5am

    well you end up with a society just like the one we see emerging, sue everybody for anything because you need to put food on your table AND pay the piper at the end of the month or he will take all you have.

    so this Yahoo trial is just the tip of the iceberg, the best conclusion for any business is if you want to innovate, do it outside USA, do not sell/visit/talk to them, its safer that way.

    1. Re:The most popular degree is law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      How horribly misleading and incorrect. So law was the most popular professional "doctoral" degree, big deal. It's not a "major", and it's not 1 in 3 students, it's 1 in 3 "doctoral" students (which is a tiny fraction of all US university education).

      And it's made even more misleading by the fact that it's very difficult to get into (and requires a lot of effort and focus to graduate from) *any* medical school in the US (and if you graduate, you have to do another 3-6 years residency after which you have an almost certain chance of getting a decent job), while there are a ton of crappy law schools that accept even crappier applicants. And calling a JD a "doctorate" is kind of a joke (it's a 3 year program, the 3rd year of which is mostly spent looking for a job and getting ready to take the bar). Not to mention a lot of those new JDs can't find a job today anyway and/or never manage to pass a bar, and many others never intended to actually practice law in the first place.

  7. Re:More obvious, trivial junk patents by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Informative

    Technically, from 2004 to 2009, Yahoo had its own results, which were actually pulled by a real crawler. Said crawler was originally a company they contracted from, Inktomi, but later bought. I remember this era brightly, because the results were so bad.

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  8. Re:The Difference is... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

    The article has a link to the suit - the patents all sound fairly generic:

    - Method and System for Optimal Placement of Advertisements on a Webpage [3 patents]
    - System and Method to Determine the Validity of an Interaction on a Network
    - Method and System for Customizing Views of Information Associated with a Social Network User
    - Control for Enabling a User to Preview Display of Selected Content Based on Another User's Authorization Level
    - Online Playback System with Community Bias
    - Dynamic Page Generator
    - World Modeling Using a Relationship Network with Communication Channels to Entities
    - System and Method for Instant Messaging Using an E-mail Protocol

  9. Re:The Difference is... by Xtifr · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Post Bilski, that seems pretty improbable. Much as I may despise Facebook and don't care one way or the other about Yahoo, I'm not going to concede that anything involving pure software can ever qualify as the basis for a legitimate patent suit.

  10. Re:Plan for eliminating software patents by Baloroth · · Score: 5, Insightful

    First, I'm not 100% certain such a co-op would be legal in all cases, but aside from that it wouldn't matter in all the most important cases. See, the real patent trolls are those who don't even have a product, only a patent: the co-op is powerless against them, since they have no leverage (remember, the troll isn't using any patent or possible patent, he only "owns" them), while the troll can patent nearly anything, which means there will always be something the co-op members could get sued for (it just isn't possible for them to cover everything themselves).

    So while a decent idea, in theory, I doubt very much it would actually work. It might prevent this suit, but really this suit isn't one of the really egregious cases anyways (except insofar as software patents are bullshit).

    Plus, in the extreme opposite direction, Apple has far too much clout to be bowed by such a co-op, and I suspect there would be others who are too powerful as well (Microsoft, perhaps) and without the ability to force everyone to join, it won't ultimately be effective.

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  11. Links to the patents in the case by million_monkeys · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here are links to the 10 patents discussed in the case. I made it partway through one of them before I decided to go have a beer instead. Maybe someone else has more patience.

    6,907,566 Method and system for optimum placement of advertisements on a webpage
    7,100,111 Method and system for optimum placement of advertisements on a webpage
    7,373,599 Method and system for optimum placement of advertisements on a webpage
    7,668,861 System and method to determine the validity of an interaction on a network
    7,269,590 Method and system for customizing views of information associated with a social network user
    7,599,935 Control for enabling a user to preview display of selected content based on another user's authorization level
    7,454,509 Online playback system with community bias
    5,983,227 Dynamic page generator
    7,747,648 World modeling using a relationship network with communication channels to entities
    7,406,501 System and method for instant messaging using an e-mail protocol

    1. Re:Links to the patents in the case by rgbrenner · · Score: 4, Informative

      Those first 3 were from Yahoo's acquisition of Overture -- the company that invented the text ads that google uses. Overture was originally named GoTo.com, and was started in February 1998 -- 7 months before Google was founded.

      So Yahoo may have a real case here.