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The Blistering Hot Exoplanet Where It Snows

cylonlover writes "Today's weather on HD 189733b: It will be hazy with high wispy clouds. The wind will be steady from the east at speeds approaching 6,000 miles per hour (9,656 km/h). Daytime temperatures will average a balmy 800C (1,472F), while the equatorial hot spot at 30 degrees longitude is expected to top 900C (1,652F). But, there is a high chance of silicate snow showers, with accumulations expected except in the vicinity of the hot spot. Just how much can astronomical observations tell us about exoplanets — those worlds orbiting other stars in our galaxy? With patience and cunning, more than you might think."

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  1. Weather forecasters by Rhodri+Mawr · · Score: 4, Funny

    I don't know. I travelled all the way to HD 189733b, I was promised snow showers, wispy clouds, high winds. But, just my luck, it rained. It must be because I'm Welsh.

    1. Re:Weather forecasters by flyneye · · Score: 2

      Weather men can't predict much better than a coin flip on this planet. Suddenly I should believe a prediction on a distant planet?

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    2. Re:Weather forecasters by niktemadur · · Score: 3, Interesting

      Does being Welsh make you arrive 63 years late at 99.99% the speed of light?

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    3. Re:Weather forecasters by ciderbrew · · Score: 5, Funny

      Having waited in a pub for a Welsh bloke to turn up on a number of occasions, I'd say 63 years late was rather prompt. The amount of drinking done after they arrive is worth the wait. You'd not want to start much earlier.

    4. Re:Weather forecasters by terrox · · Score: 2

      more like, we can hardly predict the surface conditions of Mars until we go there with a probe - further planets are mostly a guess, and planets lightyears away?.. hahahah.. super guestimate based on guesses based on earth. 1% chance of being correct.

  2. It's all speculation until you go there by Spy+Handler · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Take Mars for instance. There was a lot of good scientific guesswork based on indirect observation, but when they finally sent a probe there, all the talk about canals and whatnot faded away...

    1. Re:It's all speculation until you go there by SuricouRaven · · Score: 4, Informative

      He didn't even call them canals - he thought they were a naturally-occuring formation - but a translation error rendered them as 'canals' when his work was translated to english.

    2. Re:It's all speculation until you go there by amck · · Score: 4, Insightful

      We actually run weather and climate models for Mars, now. Currently we've run models on Mars, Titan and Venus, based on Earth weather models. Its a good check on whether the models are right: physics is physics, and bar changing some specific details (water -> methane, CO2 condenses out on Mars, etc) if the model doesn't work on Mars, somethings wrong with the model.

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    3. Re:It's all speculation until you go there by Muad'Dave · · Score: 4, Informative

      He called them 'canali' which is Italian for channels; a word that does not carry the same anthropomorphic baggage as canals.

      Thank heaven it didn't get mistranslated into cannoli - we'd have a line of Paula Dean wannabees lines up for launch.

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  3. Re:I welcome by dominious · · Score: 4, Insightful

    This is not just for knowledge sake. Weather conditions on other planets may help us understand weather behaviour in general, and in turn understand better the weather conditions on our own planet.

  4. AGW again! by billrp · · Score: 4, Funny

    By just observing the weather we've probably already changed it!

  5. Re:I welcome by An+Anonymous+Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Well sure, if we could actually observe the weather on this planet and confirm or refine our speculations, that would be great. Unfortunately, the technology to do so is well beyond our means at this point. By the time we actually are able to directly observe this planet, our weather models will probably be much more refined as well.

    I'm reminded of the planet discovered over a year ago that was tidally locked to its star, which created a habitable zone circling the planet where the light from the star would hit it at an oblong angle, creating a zone of essentially perpetual twilight where life could form. We had quite a few ideas already for what the environment on this planet must be like, until further measurements of the star system revealed that the "planet" was really just minor errors in the calculations of the star's wobble, and there wasn't even a planet there to begin with.

    This article isn't "just knowledge for knowledge's sake." Indeed, it seems to be purely speculation for speculation's sake. I'm actually very concerned by the line in the summary, "With patience and cunning, more than you might think," because that really implies we know a lot more about what we're talking about than we actually do. I'll just be happy when the weather forecaster on TV can accurately tell me the weather for the next week.

  6. Re:9,656 km/h by ridley4 · · Score: 5, Funny

    This is a prime example of over-applying significant digits in your math.
    Don't let this happen to you. Millions of nitpicks are made each year when significance arithmetic is misused and overused. They need your help.

    Please use significant digits responsibly. Thank you.

  7. Orbitting an "exosun"? by Rogerborg · · Score: 2

    Planet. It's a planet. Flash Gordon didn't rock the spandex on "exoplanets". Captain Kirk didn't put the beat-down on that Gorn on an "exoearth".

    They're just planets. The context makes it all clear, and "exo" is just meaningless marketeer blurb. Please stop it.

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  8. Re:I welcome by theguyfromsaturn · · Score: 2

    Of course knowledge for knowledge sake is enough. Who knows when "useless" knowledge becomes useful. When computers first appeared lot of theory on discrete compuations and methods had been developped, decades, and in some cases centuries, before it became practical. This then was only "knowledge for knowledge's sake". Then the electronic computers made it so much more useful. But without that background work, it might not even have been practical to develop computers without anything to use them with. While it's good to look for practical applications for knowledge, the lack of immediate application does not render said knowledge irrelevant. One day it may turn out that that bacground info becomes the seed of something revolutionnary.

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