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VisiCalc's Dan Bricklin On the Tablet Revolution

snydeq writes "Dan Bricklin, the co-creator of the PC revolution's killer app, weighs in on the opportunities and oversights of the tablet revolution. 'In some sense, for tablets the browser is a killer app. Maps is a killer app to some extent. Being able to share the screen with other people — that it's a social device — also might fit the bill. I think that for tablets, there isn't and won't be one killer app for everyone. It's more that there are apps that are killers for individual people. It's the sum of all those that is the killer app. This has been true since the original Palm Pilot.'"

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  1. Talent. by knuthin · · Score: 3, Funny

    If the guy who gave people a reason to buy a computer says this, it must be true.

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  2. New killer app for Bricklin... by CaptainLard · · Score: 5, Funny

    I'm writing a new app that will revolutionize Dan Bricklin's life. It will randomly insert the word "killer" into every sentence he writes, thus cutting his workload in half!

  3. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by CastrTroy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I don't think they will be doomed. Eventually the processor, the display, and everything else will be "good enough" for anything anybody wants to use a tablet for. The the prices will start to come down. Already you can get some seriously overspec'ed tablets for $300. What happens with the iPad 3 level of tablet only costs $300, or even $200. It will end up becoming something that just about everyone has, like a DVD player, or an MP3 player, or a TV. People will just buy them because even something really cheap will be something that accomplishes quite a bit.

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  4. Backup material from Dan by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Just FYI: My comments about "social device" in the InfoWorld interview relate to the fact that a 10" tablet is easily usable by one person while a few other people watch. It isn't "between" you and them the way an open laptop is or a phone held in front of your face. The actions you are doing (tapping, dragging, pinching) are easily followed by the other person unlike a keyboard and mouse where what you are doing isn't as obvious or direct. I first mentioned this in http://danbricklin.com/ipad1.htm .

    The "lots of apps is a killer app" comment (and the reference to the Palm Pilot which was based on an interview I did with Palm's head) comes from the essay I wrote in 2006, "When the Long Tail Wags the Dog" (http://danbricklin.com/tailwagsdog.htm). It explains why "There's an app for that" was such an important selling point for Apple.

    Finally, more recently (a little over a year ago) I wrote "Is the Apple iPad really "magical"?" (http://danbricklin.com/magical.htm)

    -Dan Bricklin

  5. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    they're basically more limited multipurpose computing devices.

    That is exactly why they are NOT doomed. Most people do not want, and never wanted, a "multipurpose computing device". Most people wanted a limited, easy to use, safe content consumption device. That's what a tablet gives them.

    Make no mistake: tablets will take over as the world's primary computing device. If you do not see this, you do not understand human nature.

  6. Re:i have a netbook? dont need tablet by CaptainLard · · Score: 4, Funny

    Do you need a tablet? Judging by your post, probably not. Do you need a girlfriend? Judging by your post, desperately. But whichever one you get theres bound to be drama when your netbook finds out...

  7. Form factor the killer app? by swb · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I find the form factor to be the "killer app". Holds/handles like a book, but does much of what you might want to do on a computer, without having the awkwardness of even an ultralight laptop.

    I get into countless arguments with people who INSIST that a laptop/netbook/macbook air is "the same" but that just hasn't been my experience in trying to sit on the couch, fly on a plane, ride in a car, etc and use the same devices.

    There's no debate that those platforms have greater computing potential (keyboard/mouse, OS choices, HDD, yadda yadda). But they all still need to be opened up, generally lack the battery life of an iPad (even my 2 year old iPad 1 still goes 2-3 days without needing charging) and just aren't as physically useful as a tablet.

  8. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by ColdWetDog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I won't write my thesis on an iPad (although along with a wireless keyboard it has more memory, a better screen, better performance and more storage than the Otrona Attache that I did write my thesis on - ah, Wordstar....) but I would use it to look up patient med lists, vital signs and the like.

    The electronic clipboard is really here. Don't underestimate clipboards.

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  9. Killer, until you need to type something... by gravyface · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ...longer than a search query in Google. And then you reach for your terrible Bluetooth keyboard/dock with it's equally-terrible leatherette cover and try to juggle the thing on your lap, all the while wondering why you didn't just get a thin laptop or a netbook.

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  10. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by damnbunni · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A tablet is not suited to those things. However, those things are not what the vast majority of people use computers for.

    Tablets are just fine for checking your Facebook, watching YouTube and Netflix, sending emails, and playing the sorts of games most people play.

    I know a few people who have ditched their home internet and just have an iPad and a 3G wifi hotspot. It's all the computer they need, and it carries easily. Heck, it fits in a good-sized purse.

  11. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by MozeeToby · · Score: 3, Interesting

    I still don't understand why no one has done a thin client tablet, with the real horsepower being a server, or even just server software, sitting on your home network somewhere. Most everyone has a desktop or laptop with multiple times more computing power than a tablet. Use wireless N to get the speeds you need for input and display and you could have 10 tablets for $50 each running off a single PC shoved in a closet somewhere. Yeah, no portability, but portability isn't the be all end all for many users.

  12. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by Gilmoure · · Score: 5, Funny

    Unless a tablet can batch render to the same degree as my 128,000 node cluster I built in the basement, it's totally useless and of no use to anyone, anywhere, at anytime, EVER!

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  13. Size Matters by na1led · · Score: 3, Interesting

    A Desktop PC is like a big tool box, a laptop is like a tool belt, and a tablet is like a leatherman. What would you rather to carry around all day?

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    1. Re:Size Matters by RyuuzakiTetsuya · · Score: 3, Funny

      flaw in your analogy.

      A tool belt will let me run around screaming, "I'M BATMAN!" while punching people in the face.

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    2. Re:Size Matters by quacking+duck · · Score: 3, Insightful

      For me personally, the Swiss army knife (smartphone) is just fine.

  14. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by Gilmoure · · Score: 3, Informative

    VMWare View, RDP Lite, and iSSH apps lets you handle a real machines through a tablet but then that's just remote computing. There's also an iPad app that lets you use your iPad as an additional screen of a desktop system. I'm not sure I've seen anything that will let you work with local files on a tablet but do the crunching on a desktop system.

    What I'd like to see is a tablet dock that includes GPU's, external monitors, full range of peripherals, and storage, but is still based on the tablet OS; not just sync'ing. That'd be cool.

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  15. Re:All those things worked on tablets 15 years ago by gstoddart · · Score: 3, Insightful

    had exactly the same product been made by HP or Dell

    Well, therein lies the rub.

    We all saw the HP tablet -- it was a dog that eventually HP themselves was selling for about $99 to their employees to clear it out.

    My brother's tiny little off-name Android tablet is cool enough, but has a fairly low-res display and seemed to have some warts (the clock stops when it's turned off, I kid you not; how hard is it to keep the clock going?). Can't speak to the Samsung or other Android based tablets since I've never had a chance to play with one.

    My wife's Playbook -- well, the browser crashes all of the time, there's not much software available for it, and usually when she turns it on she has to wrestle with it to get it to connect to our wi-fi, or occasionally hard-boot it as the whole thing locks up. She's getting to the point where she might stop using it. Which is sad, because when I bought it for her at Christmas, it was a really sweet deal and thought she'd get some use out of it.

    What Apple did was to actually produce a polished product that worked when they released it. Microsoft is playing "me too" as usual and trying to build something. HP released a turd and then discontinued it. RIM hasn't yet caught up yet. The Android marketplace comprises so many different devices that I'm not even sure you can compare them to themselves.

    So, I'm just not convinced that another of the candidates could have released "exactly the same product" ... because they don't seem to be doing it yet. I will say this for Apple, by the time they release it, it actually has been tested and works. A lot of products get released which shouldn't be considered anything more than a beta release.

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  16. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by BoberFett · · Score: 4, Interesting

    For mobile computing the form factor just isn't there at a 10" screen. If I'm out and about, I'll be using my phone. The screen is small, but it's portable. If I'm at home want to get something done, I'm going to set my phone on the desk and link it wirelessly to a 24" monitor, keyboard and mouse.

    The recent Ubuntu on Android demo is where I see things going. You bring your computer with you everywhere you go and use the touchscreen for convenience or use whatever input and output devices are around when you need more capability and a real OS.

  17. Re:5 years later by lightknight · · Score: 3, Informative

    *shrugs*

    Voice / tablet interfaces are useful, but far less efficient for entering a large amount of information over short period of time.

    Voice interfaces, for dictation or programming, need a tremendous amount of work. Command-voice interfaces, like Siri, have been around forever, and we already know they work.

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  18. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by PhillC · · Score: 3, Informative

    I need to preface my comments with the face that I only have an Asus Transformer Android tablet. I don't have an iPad and haven't used one, therefore the following comment may be incorrect.

    The problem with using my tablet for any serious content creation, like writing a thesis, is that the applications provided are, in my opinion, shit. My Asus Transformer has the keyboard and I use a bluetooth mouse. However, trying to use something like Documents to Go is a total pain in the ring. The spreadsheet side of things isn't any better than the word processer. Tried using the Google Docs App on an Android tablet? Also shit.

    And browsers, which are meant for consuming content, also largely shit. I have Dolphin, Opera and Firefox Beta all installed. I have to use all three at different times to effectively load various sites. Then they will frequently crash, which is shit. They're also slow when compared to my desktop browser.

    I use a product called Hootsuite to manage multiple social network presences, for work. In a browser this is a brilliant service. The App on Android is shit.

    The best thing about my Android browser is the default mail client and its ability to connect to an Exchange server, which I am yet to master with Thunderbird. Skype also works better than Skype for Linux.

    Overall, my tablet experience has been pretty poor, and I'm not convinced by the whole App mindset. My Transformer gathers dust most of the time, and may end up on eBay soon.

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  19. Re:Not any more by damnbunni · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The problem with reading books on an LCD display isn't the resolution. It's the fact you're staring at a light bulb the whole time.

    My e-ink reader is only 600 x 800, no higher a DPI than some of my LCD-screened gizmos, but it's FAR easier on the eyes.

    Also, I fail to understand why 'touch interaction' matters. My reader has a button for next page and a button for previous page, well placed, and a D-pad for navigating menus. What more does it need?

  20. those horseless carriages are just overpriced toys by decsnake · · Score: 4, Insightful

    those horseless carriages are just overpriced toys and they'll never amount to anything. For serious work, I'll take a horse and carriage any day!

    seriously, you guys ought to listen to yourselves sometime.

  21. Re:First Post! by IwantToKeepAnon · · Score: 3, Funny

    Oh bitter, bitter ironies...

    #39365465 - timestamped 1 minute earlier

    From Dilbert Newsletter 49.0 -- InDUHviduals Humor Break

    I've also learned recently that "ironic" means anything you want it to mean. Example:

    Me: "I heard that Bob was killed by a meteor."

    Induhvidual: "Wow. That's ironic."

    Me: "Why is it ironic? Was he an astronomer?"

    Induhvidual: "No, it's ironic because, you know, what are the odds?"

    Me: "So anything unlikely is automatically ironic?"

    Induhvidual: "No, it also needs to be bad."

    Me: "This conversation is ironic."

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  22. Re:No, its still an expensive toy. by mhajicek · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Speaking as a professional CNC programmer, I'd say the touch screen interface is lacking for the application. Most CNC programmers I know, myself included, use two of the largest screens they can get their hands on to maximize screen real estate. There's an awful lot of data that you have to get from the computer to your head. We also tend to use Space Pilots and the like for view control, and high end trackballs (or mice for some) for fast but precise selection (no, not that line, I meant this one!) I also prefer to set a bunch of hotkeys and use keyboard access to menu commands because then I can keep my mouse pointer close to the geometry I'm selecting, which makes it much faster. I can then get rid of most of the toolbars and free up more screen area. I think trying to do CAM on a pad would be an exercise in frustration.

  23. Re:All those things worked on tablets 15 years ago by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Secondly, Apple... they are masters of marketting. They took the tablet, a tool for geeks, and made it cool. Their brand alone sold the iPad - had exactly the same product been made by HP or Dell, it'd never have caught on so well.It's possible that just the power of their marketing could get tablets established long enough to stick.

    People who still reduce Apple's strength(s) to marketing will never understand why they have been successful. Apple has always been about polish. Geeks here on Slashdot might put up with mundane tasks to get something working but the general public does not. Every step it takes to do something makes it a negative in their mind.

    I had a Diamond Rio player when the first iPod came out. Technically it was a higher capacity version of the Rio if you want to reduce it down. But in the mundane daily tasks of operation, the iPod kicked the crap out of it.

    To rip and encode MP3s required me to find and use two different programs. Apple had iTunes. To sync my device required multiple steps and another program. Even then you could mess up the syncing. With iPod, just plug it to your computer.

    When I got an iPod around 2005, my brother got a Dell MP3 player. At the time he disparaged my choice. A year later I asked him where his Dell was. He kept it in a drawer because it was too much of a hassle to keep it synced/use it. I used my iPod for years until I replaced it with a smart phone.

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  24. Re:All those things worked on tablets 15 years ago by painandgreed · · Score: 4, Insightful

    People who still reduce Apple's strength(s) to marketing will never understand why they have been successful.

    Here I want to both agree with you and disagree with you. That people who reduce Apple's strengths to Marketing will never understand why they are successful is true, but not because that is false, but because they have no idea of what marketing is. Marketing is not advertising. Marketing also includes figuring out what the market wants, building a good product to appease the market, and then presenting it, including advertising, to the market so they buy it. It is a combination of telling the people what they want along with the fact that it is actually what they want. Apple is successful 'because of marketing', but the people who use that phase usually have no idea what even wikipedia says about 'Marketing".