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Turkey Bans Pastebin and Tinyurl
New submitter anonimim writes "Pastebin and Tinyurl have been blocked in Turkey. Pastebin was blocked last week by a court after the hacking of Turkish Information and Communications Technologies Authority (BTK). Four databases including email addresses and plain-text passwords stolen from BTK were posted to Pastebin last month, in retaliation for the blocking of Blogspot, Incisozluk (a popular Turkish community dictionary) and thousands of other websites. The more shocking ban was that of Tinyurl, a URL shortening service. Turkey currently blocks thousands of websites and is classified as one of the countries under surveillance by the 2012 Internet Enemies report (PDF) published last week by the Reporters Without Borders."
I'm sure http://www.socuteurl.com/ will still work.
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So has Slashdot been banned yet? File lockers? Blogs? I have a feeling those datasets need some replication so the Turks can get them.
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Because there aren't hundreds of other sites that you can dump passwords on for people to see? How does Turkey see this slippery slope as sustainable? Just do us the favour of having to watch it in slow-motion and cut off the entire internet. It would get to the resolution of all this a whole lot faster.
So, while I gotta respect your unique position at the nexus between cultures, you really don't know what you're doing, do you?
It's shit like this, Turkey. Just... shit like this.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Accession_of_Turkey_to_the_European_Union
Yeah, even 2021 is a bit optimistic.
Some technical illiterate who's managing the blocklist heard that you could get to Pastebin from clicking on some Tinyurl links.
Norway may be granted entry before Turkey but not both. Already too many 3rd-world 'countries' in Eu as it is so a Norway AND a Turkey won't fly (ask one Arthur Carlson). Any more and it would be PU.
because bit.ly paid 'em off. I mean if you follow "who has the most to gain" theory of detective work type of thing...
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They should still be able to make their URLs cute.
ok so in a lot of countries block objecting sites...
in the UK (which is still in the EU) they block child pornography sites via DNS and url this even blocked part of wikipedia.org for a while until people noticed...
(there is no public list)
so what really interest's me is how are they blocking those sites ?
who sold this to them or did they develop it themselves and are they issuing SSL certificates for sites to inspect the payload of SSL traffic ?
anyone actually have the TECHNICAL DETAILS ?
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Not yet anyway, but it's incredible that they can enter the EU without the full agreement of everyone. If Turkey gets in, how long before Israel gets into the EU. How long before the Schengen information system hands all our passport data over? How long before Russia gets in on the votes of Eastern Europe?
It was all a cosy club of like minded countries, now its an out of control bureaucracy that can expand without even a democratic leader.
gavron you are ignorant!
please search Turkey-Syria relations in google or somewhere else...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Syria%E2%80%93Turkey_relations
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-middle-east-15745199
I guess all that talk about how keen Turkey is to join the EU is just that: talk.
Wait, what does tinyurl have to do with basting a turkey?
According to Rule 34 of the Internet there is a website that will help explain that to you.
Yes, you are probably the only one.
They blocked blogspot.
In retaliation they got hacked and the info posted to pastebin.
They blocked pastebin.
The people in charge of this country don't learn too fast do they... :)
I look fwd to them being hacked next week in retaliation for blocking pastebin. Maybe they could post the stolen info to the riaa or mpaa. So they get blocked next. And then nobody would care.
Someones gonna have to be the bigger man to stop the cycle of stupidity here.. And somehow i really doubt it's gonna be the internet 'hackers'.
How does this square with their desire for EU membership?
Yeah, there probably isn't any sort of requirement that member countries not censor the web, but raising a stink by using Turkey's example may be a great way to get such a requirement debated and created.
Lacking such a Good Bad Example, right now people are putting up with more censorship than they should, and it's increasing. It's quite like raising the water temperature too slow for the frog to notice. The problem needs a bogeyman - let's use Turkey.
This news and the others about the 100+ journalists in jails for opposing their government is scary. I don't think Bush did a good job by supporting Erdogan to become the dictator of the new Islamic Turkey... It's funny I was watching law & order, and the judge released a rapist for his right to a "speedy trial" ( the victim was killed before the trial and not much evidence is left and the judge gave 3 days). There are journalists in Turkey whom have been in the prison for 3+ years and their trial is still on going... Prosecutors still look for evidence, and for some reason cannot find any but are very determined and believe there is... 3 years man! wtf!
Ban tinyurl is really? They can Ban all of shortUrl? Wordpress URLs
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Norway may be granted entry before Turkey but not both. Already too many 3rd-world 'countries' in Eu as it is so a Norway AND a Turkey won't fly (ask one Arthur Carlson). Any more and it would be PU.
lol. norway could join tomorrow if they wanted. no one in EU would say no to that, their human rights situation etc are more in compliance with eu rules than most eu countries. Norway isn't in EU because they're swimming in cash and they don't hate their government. Norway just happens to be getting what it wants from eu anyways. and fyi you can just walk over from eu to norway - if you're prepared to pay 8 bucks for a beer at a discount store and more for tobacco than in nyc.
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Probably -- the rest of us can read.
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Norway may be granted entry before Turkey but not both.
The people of Norway made it clear already (twice!) that they have no interest of being in the EU.
This is not about democracy or being liberal or EU or whatever. This is a major chain feth up created by incompetents. Some idiot database administrator/webcoder lacked experience, or technical mojo, to secure the database access and the information residing there within. When it got leaked they did what any panicked administration who has no regard for public relations whatsoever does: ban everything that makes you look bad. What would be the repercussions? Lemme tell you: none. The sysadmin who works for the institution who created this situation will not even get a reprimand.
I mean this is very funny in a very tragic way. A government institution starts to gather information, vital, sensitive kind including gsm numbers and all that. This information is stored in a database without any kind of encryption. Info gets leaked, the users who has nothing to do with this activity suffers...
Do you see it? This is about not owning your shit up. The responsibility "thing" is missing from there. Why oh why does a government institution stoops to collect this kind of information should be asked but a more important question resides there: why does nobody owns the situation up and merely tries to assess it in a, I dunno, calm way and say "hey, what the hell are we doing? Why are we banning these public services for two or three pages? Not only it will make us look bad; it will also generate more attention to those files..."
And the same administration assumes a very shocked face when smart people leave here for good and do not return... "oh but why the 'brain drain' happens?" Seriously?!
I'm afraid that no amount of hateful prejudice on your part will make Poland a "3rd-world country", nice try though, keep up the bigotry, it must get you lots of friends in real life.
Watch out, the next time there is a vote on it, there may be 113% of the voters who approve joining the EU.
It wouldn't be the first time something like that has happened in history ... or even in the last month.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Too late. The porn was made of it *LONG* before Rule 34 was created.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
The modern Turkey was because it was a dictatorship ruled by the military who was okay with somewhat democratic leaders until they misbehaved and were stepped on. HARD!
The army enforced that the vision of Ataturk was followed and all was well, Turkey prospored and the west had a Muslim nation that leaned heavily to western ideas and values.
But the west didn't like this, democracy is the way and so Erdogan got into power and has been using the religious whankers to build his power base, relying on their fear of the westernized Turkey to build his powerbase. Roughly similar to how Republicans use fundementalist Christians. So it is moderate and liberal Muslims who favor dictatorship and fear democracy. The world is a strange and complex place and one solution definitly does not fit all. Not that the military is nice... they just are nicer then Erdogan. See Egypts military for a similar deal. A lot of Muslim nations are kept in check by military leaders who are far more modern then their supposedly democratic leaders.
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I'm posting this up high so it'll be read.
*Can anyone actually confirm that tinyurl has been blocked in Turkey?*
I'm saying this, because the linked article and the submission doesn't mention Tinyurl (or indeed Pastebin) at all, and Slashdot seems to be the only people stating this news. Is this something that's actually happened or are we spreading false rumours here?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serdar_Argic
For your information, Norway has rejected the EU twice, not the other way round. Seems the Norwegians like hanging on to that oil money, thanks very much.
Norway is a member of Schengen, though, so their borders are already quite open. In some places, it's not even marked, and you don't even realise that you've left Sweden until you get to a town with signs in Norwegian.
nice troll, but just to step up... are you SERIOUSLY attempting to suggest that Norway is a 3rd world country?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_countries_by_Human_Development_Index
which country is at #1 for 2011?
which country is at #4?
Never let these yahoos into the EU. Ever.
I don't think this news is quite up to "shocking" level.
Even in the geek world, it isn't.
I think he meant Greece.
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
You see this everytime, and it's true. The US was the nation that has been pushing the world towards freedom in the last 50 years. Most other nations, including those in the EU, don't agree that there should be freedom of the press in the sense that Americans understand the word.
In America lots of nations are considered more free than America because in one specific detail they're slightly more
Of course that doesn't mean there isn't a world of difference between EU and something like muslims or china. There is, and sadly it varies from "free except x,y,z" (EU) and "print what we say, and crossword puzzles" (china) to "do what we say, and we'll still attack you" (muslims). Live for a month in a few different parts of the world and you'll see this in practice.
This idea, that absolute freedom of opinion is even good is losing ground, for 2 reasons. Firstly, it's losing ground in America. Whether we're talking liberals (don't say anything about race) to republicans (don't say anything bad about capitalism). Second, America itself is losing ground, and not to nations that espouse freedom of opinion as a core value. Just compare the US to, oh the UN for example, and you'll see the horror that is the truth.
Watch out, the next time there is a vote on it, there may be 113% of the voters who approve joining the EU.
You are mistaking the state Florida with the country Norway. They are kinda shaped the same, but swing in a different direction.
Is Turkey's Erdogan.
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