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New Samsung TV Watches You Watching It

CanHasDIY writes "Straight out of 1984, Samsung has unveiled a new series of televisions with integrated cameras and microphones, complete with facial and voice recognition software. Best of all, there appears to be no physical indication of the mic and camera's status, so consumers have no way of knowing when they're being monitored, or by whom... and if you don't find the idea of a TV that watches you creepy enough, apparently Samsung's Terms of Service include a clause allowing third-party apps to make use of the monitoring system, and use the data gathered for their own purposes. Nothing Orwellian about that..."

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  1. Omnipresent Surveillance by mhajicek · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Omnipresent surveillance is inevitable, and will change society dramatically. The question what we choose to do with it.

    1. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by TheCouchPotatoFamine · · Score: 5, Insightful

      the best answer is always "to protect others whose freedom of political and spiritual expression is threatened by your actions". Always.

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    2. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by Master+Moose · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The problem is, by bypassing the "feature" you are still paying for it, which will encourage Samgsung and other TV makers to continue to inculde it.

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      . . .gone when the morning comes
    3. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by AHuxley · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Re: It will never be true in my house.
      Depends who is giving you your computer, device or job?
      A school can network to your home with little public comment about camera use
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robbins_v._Lower_Merion_School_District
      The background paperwork once needed for high risk, cleared work is now becoming normal
      http://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/job-applicants-asked-turn-facebook-passwords-article-1.1047427
      Then you have the CIA hinting at the joy of a fully networked US home
      http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/03/petraeus-tv-remote/

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    4. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by EdIII · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Rejecting bullshit like that is about as easy as rejecting 3D televisions and cable TV. Practically no effort at all....

    5. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by gbjbaanb · · Score: 5, Insightful

      actually, it's even easier. Leave the entire TV in its box. In the shop.

    6. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by wierd_w · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Because you don't want those "features", but all the other HDTV makers jumped on the bandwagon too, and you simply can't find a non-bugged set?

      That's how this kind of thing becomes ubiquitous you know.

    7. Re:Omnipresent Surveillance by anomaly256 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Then start up a new bug-less brand and make a LOT of noise about the fact that /your/ TVs aren't watching your children watch saturday morning cartoons in their underwear and streaming it over the internet. You will rake it in hand over fist

  2. Reality TV ... by donstenk · · Score: 1, Insightful

    .. the wrong way round! And possibly even more boring.

    In what way is this different from your typical smartphone, tablet, most laptops, and soon I imagine, a Samsung fridge?

    This is

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  3. Good luck with that by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'd just put duct tape over the lens, or better yet, open the thing up and snip the wires going to the mic and camera(s)
    The warranty would go bye-bye but my privacy doesn't.

    1. Re:Good luck with that by multiben · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Maybe you could buy a different brand? Or is that too easy?

  4. Re:Oh QUIT this bullshit already. by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 1, Insightful

    Boy, you are retarded. How about getting a life?

  5. Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Easy; but actually deeply misleading...

    If there is a lesson of the various socialist surveillance dystopias, it is that unaided state surveillance is too expensive to survive(y hello thar, East Germany) and tends to stifle out of fear the new technologies that would ultimately help it prosper(rather like the MPAA...)

    In good old free world, on the other hand, technological development and the enthusiastic forces of private enterprise produce all the groundwork needed for surveillance and control of the sort that the Evil Empire could only dream of, just waiting to be subpeonaed when needed...

  6. Re:What is the difference between this and xbox? by icebraining · · Score: 4, Insightful

    But are you sure that LED is not controlled by software (drivers)? Because otherwise, someone with control over the OS could disable that feature and record unannounced, while giving you a false sense of security.

    Paranoia ftw.

  7. DRM by jquirke · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The television has detected more persons in the room than this content is licensed for.

    Please reduce the number of persons in the room, or press the RED button to authorise a payment of a $X per additional person in the room.

  8. Status light? by hantms · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Please explain to me why not having an indicator light is significant. The manufacturer controls how the entire thing is built, so it could also easily build in a function to use the camera but without making any status light come on. As I type this the status light of the camera in my Lenovo laptop is off.. But is the camera off, really?

    Bit of a silly article. If you don't like web cams (or any camera) then just say so. Makes no sense to fully trust Logitech but not Samsung or anyone else.

    Encore for the tinfoilers: every iPhone comes with one or two cameras. And you really don't know about the software that runs it.

    Next.

  9. Re:Soviet Russia jokes overload by Man+On+Pink+Corner · · Score: 4, Insightful

    it is that unaided state surveillance is too expensive to survive(y hello thar, East Germany) and tends to stifle out of fear the new technologies that would ultimately help it prosper(rather like the MPAA...)

    Couple of things.

    1) Cameras are a lot cheaper now.

    2) East Germans weren't primarily afraid of the Stasi. They were afraid of their own neighbors. The surveillance state successfully co-opted the populace into doing its grunt work for free. That part hasn't changed, and won't, because at the end of the day, people are finks.

    So, yes, unaided state surveillance may be too expensive to be feasible... but it wasn't, and won't, be unaided.