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Judge Rules Pi-Based Music Is Non-Copyrightable

New submitter AnalogDiehard writes "A copyright case alleging infringement of a 1992 Lars Erickson song 'The Pi Symphony' by Michael John Blake's 'What Pi Sounds Like' was dismissed by U.S. District Court Judge Michael H. Simon. Both pieces were conceived by assigning numbers to musical notes, then deriving a melody based on the pattern defined by a finite set of numbers in Pi. Judge Simon wrote in his legal opinion, intentionally announced on Pi day (3/14), that 'Pi is a non-copyrightable fact.' While the Judge did not invalidate the Erickson copyright, he ruled that 'Mr. Erickson may not use his copyright to stop others from employing this particular pattern of musical notes.' The judge further ruled that the two pieces were not sufficiently similar — for instance, its harmonies, structure and cadence are all different."

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  1. Now... by Immostlyharmless · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If we could just get this same judge, who obviously has some common sense and a critical eye for detail, to rule on a few other copyright cases, we might be able to right this severely listing ship....

    1. Re:Now... by Anne_Nonymous · · Score: 5, Funny

      >> this severely listing ship....

      Arrrr, and a pirate ship she be, me hearties!

  2. Copyright infringement? by Rudisaurus · · Score: 5, Funny

    The entire dispute was completely irrational!

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    1. Re:Copyright infringement? by Thuktun · · Score: 5, Funny

      The entire dispute was completely irrational!

      I wish 'i' had thought of that.

      I'm sure there are complex reasons you didn't.

  3. Re:Patents by Cornwallis · · Score: 5, Funny

    PI not IP

  4. Bye, bye, copyrighted Pi by plover · · Score: 5, Funny

    A long long time ago
    I can still remember how
    That number used to make me smile
    And I knew if I had my chance
    That I could make those lawyers dance
    And maybe they'd be happy for a while
    But March 14th made me shiver
    With every digit I'd deliver
    Bad news in the courtroom
    I couldn't take one more suit
    I can't remember if I cried
    When I read the judges opines
    But something touched me deep inside

    The day the copyright died.

    Bye, bye to copyrighted Pi
    Drove my Chevy to the courthouse where the lawyers would fight
    But them good ole boys were thinking common sense was all right
    Singin' this'll be the day that I die
    This'll be the day that I die

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    John
  5. Re:All music is aligned numbers by Sique · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The question is, how much of your own creativity is in the selection of the number sequence you base your music on.
    Pi is a quite canonical choice, so there is not much creativity in it. Creativity can be put into the rules that convert pi into an actual music sheet, and this still can be copyrightable. But just because you used pi, you cannot claim copyright infringment against someone else who used pi too.

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  6. Re:Infinity by Hatta · · Score: 5, Informative

    Not every infinitely long random number contains every possible pattern. Consider an infinitely long sequence of digits. Now drop all '1's from the sequence. You still have an infinitely long series of random digits, in that knowing previous digits doesn't help you predict future digits. However, this infinite random sequence does not contain every possible pattern.

    Whether this applies to pi or not, I have no idea.

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  7. Re:Patents by mooingyak · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yeah but the French do everything backwards. Their word for "states" is "etats".

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  8. Re:Infinity by FrangoAssado · · Score: 5, Informative

    Considering that pi represented as a decimal number is infinitely long, it would eventually contain the encoding for every song in existence.

    Actually, that does not necessarily follow.

    It's not known whether pi contains every finite-length sequence in its decimal expansion (although most people believe it to be true). In fact, our knowledge is even worse than that (from Wikipedia):

    It is for instance unknown whether sqrt(2), pi, ln(2) or e is normal (but all of them are strongly conjectured to be normal, because of some empirical evidence). It is not even known whether all digits occur infinitely often in the decimal expansions of those constants.

    Here's some more discussion about that: http://math.stackexchange.com/questions/96632/do-the-digits-of-pi-contain-every-possible-finite-length-digit-sequence

  9. Re:PI song by aevan · · Score: 5, Funny

    Dur? Isn't it common for everyone to want their slice of the Pi?

    *blames lack of coffee for inability to resist bad pun