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Kim Dotcom Alleges Studios Wanted to Work With Megaupload

Fluffeh writes "In a recent story that is beating around the nets, Kim Dotcom has fired back at studios with emails that make for some interesting reading: 'A Disney executive e-mailed Megaupload in 2008. He said he was interested in having Megaupload host Disney content, but said he would need Megaupload to tweak its terms of service to make it clear Disney retained ownership of files uploaded to the site. He sent Megaupload a proposed alternative to the standard Megaupload TOS. Fox emailed "Please let me know if you have some time to chat this week about how we can work together to better monetize your inventory," in an attempt to promote their newly launched ad network. And finally, this gem: a Warner Brothers executive e-mailed Megaupload seeking to expedite the process of uploading Warner content to Megaupload. "I would like to know if your site can take a Media RSS feed for our syndications," he wrote. "We would like to upload our content all at once instead of one video at a time."' Pot calling the kettle black anyone?" Torrentfreak is running the full interview with Kim Dotcom.

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  1. If you don't succeed at first, try again. by Issarlk · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Looks like it's time to arrest him again, for rape this time.

  2. Yep by jythie · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Not surprising in the least.

    It really seems like the studios are using threats of various laws as tokens in negotiating favorable terms in business deals rather then as tools for actually protecting their IP.

    1. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Insightful

      *facepalm* Yes, the same reason it always existed then. To improve the public's access to creative works by creating a favourable environment for businesses which create those works so that such businesses don't get laughed out of the room when asking for investment.

      Even if we don't need $100m movies, or $40m games, if the limit is whatever a rag-tag bunch of individuals can beg from their family & friends there'd be no cultural heritage for anyone to steal^H^H^H^H^H share, and the whole argument would be completely moot.

    2. Re:Yep by robot256 · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Right, because before copyright was invented there was no culture whatsoever. I think you meant there would be less cultural heritage to go around. And no, I am not splitting hairs: the difference between "less" and "none" is very significant because it means that a compromise exists. There are extremists on both sides declaring the end of the world unless copyright is either abolished or codified as a god-given right, but neither is a rational position. Once you accept that copyright is not absolutely necessary for the world to keep spinning, you can cut it down to size based on the logical argument for its existence.

      The only fair solution is a balance for everyone concerned--a limited copyright that lets businesses recoup their investment without keeping works hostage to private interests for eternity. I am just as frustrated with the "all information should be free" crowd as I am with the "all free information is stealing" crowd, since neither has a lasting solution to the problem.

    3. Re:Yep by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      Who the hell modded this flamebait? GPP was the flamer, obviously attacking the Free Software model and anyone who doesn't suck at the tit of the copyright mafia.

  3. I wonder... by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Insightful

    These little gems do certainly paint the entertainment industry's hatchetmen in the most mendacious possible light(not that they need the help, or that this was news to anybody); but what I'd be delighted to know is whether they correctly dotted their 'i's and crossed their 't's legally speaking...

    Strategically, having somebody like Megaupload as a promotional channel makes a great deal of sense: zero cost(to them) distribution channel used, at least initially, by a highly cost-sensitive(but, if capturable, quite desireable, youth market); but with enough legal and general sleaziness to keep the Disney moms away and offer them a way of squeezing and/or cutting off at a later date(as they appear to be attempting now).

    However, as the copyright holders, it is conceivable that they may actually have authorized MegaUpload's activities, at least for some of their material, when they crossed the line from 'merely ignoring' to 'actively aiding and abetting and discussing how to more efficiently upload themselves'. If the person uploading does actually have the power to authorize uses of a copyrighted work, it is conceivable that even those flimsy "Yup, I totally pinkie swear that I'm the copyright holder and this is A-OK" clickwraps that many of the cyberlocker types have you click through could actually end up meaning something... That would be hilarious.

  4. work by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So in 2008, 4 years ago, they tried to work with him. That apparently didn't work out, why didn't that work out, and how?

    And why would that have any impact on what is going on now? If they tried to work with him, but he refused and then started monetizing their copyrighted works on his own, without their permission. Wouldn't that just bring him in more trouble now?

    Obviously i didn't RTFA and I'm hoping this really hurts the case of MPAA/RIAA etc. instead of Kim's.

    1. Re:work by poity · · Score: 3, Insightful

      It seems more like they gave him a chance to go legit. As in, I see you're making money off our products, I'd like you to join our authorized reseller/distributor program. I don't think accusations of hypocrisy really work here, because they make it sound like the media companies should be lambasted for NOT being belligerent on initial contact -- that had they "used the stick" from the beginning, they would have retained the consistency to not get blamed for "hypocrisy"

      --
      your thin skin doesn't make me a troll
  5. Re:Revised TOS? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you had millions to invest in Disney, they would listen. You sound mighty naive.

  6. Re:NDA Much..? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    His business is borked, his entire personal and corporate asset base has been siezed and he faces a long stretch in the pen'.

    He better not breach that NDA he signed, he might get in trouble!

  7. Re:Sun Tzu by Motard · · Score: 3, Insightful

    More like a carrot and stick approach. "Here's a way we might be able to work together and both make money ina a cooperative way...(and failing that, we'll see your butt in jail)"

  8. Re:Revised TOS? by MasterMan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What would happen if an individual tried to send Disney a revised TOS for one of their services?

    Eh, what is your point? Feel free to send Disney your revised TOS. They can either accept or reject it. Just like MegaUpload could do.

    They weren't forcing MegaUpload to change anything, they were just pointing out the parts that would need to be changed in TOS if they were to use the service. Seems like standard business negotiations.

  9. Re:Revised TOS? by aaaaaaargh! · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Perhaps he's idealistic, but he might not be as naive as it seems. If millions of people would send Disney a revised TOS (or any other company whatsoever), they would have a serious problem.

    Here is something to try out, just for the fun of it: Read the EULAs and TOS when you buy or lease a product, make changes to the contract, and then send the changes back to the company with the note that you do not agree with the original contract, and do all of this within a short period after purchase. Some people in their legal department will probably hate you, but the worst thing they can do is keeping you from using the product, in case of which they'll have to pay you back the full price.

    Should work great with software and all kinds of content where you're not given a complete contract to sign before buying the product. (Obscure links and small print on the packaging doesn't count.) Now if only enough people would do that with Sony products...

  10. nonsense by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    What it shows is that the studios tried to work with him in a manner that would have had them being paid when he distributed their content. They gave him every chance to have a legal, mutually agreeable working relationship and he screwed them over anyway.

    All his admirers want is for somebody to help them steal.