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The Fall of Data Haven Sealand

Fluffeh writes "Ars has a great article about the history of Sealand, a data haven — a place where you can host almost anything, as long as it follows the very bare laws of Sealand Government. Quoting: 'HavenCo's failure — and make no mistake about it, HavenCo did fail — shows how hard it is to get out from under government's thumb. HavenCo built it, but no one came. For a host of reasons, ranging from its physical vulnerability to the fact that The Man doesn't care where you store your data if he can get his hands on you, Sealand was never able to offer the kind of immunity from law that digital rebels sought. And, paradoxically, by seeking to avoid government, HavenCo made itself exquisitely vulnerable (PDF) to one government in particular: Sealand's.'"

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  1. Not a real country by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Funny

    How can it be, when there are no horses?

    UK - Horses.

    US - Horses

    Spain - Horses.

    Sweden - Horses

    France - Horses

    Sealand - No horses!

  2. WARNING - OBVIOUS RESPONSE FOLLOWS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Sealand - seahorses.

  3. Re:This is why we have Tor by tripleevenfall · · Score: 4, Funny

    Sealand is SO last year, now it's servers hosted on drone aircraft...

  4. Re:ah, libertarians by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    There is no child labour because of industrial revolution and capitalism, which increased productivity of the population to the point, when parents didn't have to send their kids to work.

    Or did you think somebody forced the parents to do so? Or do you believe that gov't has wealth that it gets from anywhere else rather than stealing it from the people who produce it?

    Gov't has nothing, children always worked until free market capitalism and industrialisation increased people's productivity by applying savings as investment to build/acquire better tools.

    It's capital that makes people more productive, because capital creates better tools, and so instead of a stick, the person gets a shovel and then an excavator and can do work of hundreds of people by himself.

    Without free market capitalism and industrialisation children still would have worked since very young age, and now, that USA has abandoned the principles of freedom, children WILL WORK ONCE AGAIN, and they will starve and that's what your bankrupt ideology is leading to, circlehead.

    As to pinkertons, etc. - I would absolutely protect my private property with private security force, and that's my absolute right as a property owner and it's my responsibility as well.

    Gov't is tyranny, and those who promote more of it are the tyrants.

  5. Re:ah, libertarians by roman_mir · · Score: 4, Funny

    Oh, and as to the profit motive - that's right. That's the ONLY motive that increases the overall wealth in the market because it allows allocating resources efficiently. There is no other mechanism known to men to do so, no amount of central planning, no amount of dictatorship and totalitarianism can do as good of a job allocating resources as private individuals and businesses within the context of free market (market free of gov't intervention).

    The more profit the better.

    Profit is VIRTUE IN ITSELF, because it is the only real indicator telling us whether the enterprise is worthwhile or worthless and which way to move.