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GNOME 3.4 Released

supersloshy writes "The popular GNOME desktop environment has just announced the release of version 3.4. User-facing updates include, among others, a new look for many GNOME applications, smooth scrolling support in GTK, integrated document search in GNOME Shell, a new dynamic background, improved accessibility configuration options, new high-contrast icons, and more documentation. Developer-facing improvements include the release of GTK+ 3.4 and updates to standard GNOME libraries as part of the latest GNOME Developer Platform."

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  1. Re:Will this be any different? by justforgetme · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What's to flame? GNOME 3 was good, now it's better

    <runs and hides>

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  2. Engineers. They love to change things. by cpu6502 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Yet another new look for no apparent reason. (shrug). I guess it ain't so bad. I'll adjust. Or just keep using Lightweight ubuntu/LXDE instead.

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  3. My commentary... by Junta · · Score: 5, Informative

    My problems with Gnome 3:
    -Extensions are a very awkward approach to what should be simple config changes. For example, there are two hotcorners by default, upper-left and lower-right. Rather than offering a straightforward configuration to disable it, you have to dig through extensions and find either the extension to disable upper-left, the different one to do lower-right, or the third one that disables both. This accumulates quite atrociously with all the settings.
    -Because of the extensions being particularly invasive and pretty much required, the 'oh no' screen is easy to hit.
    -In the event of an 'oh no' screen, gnome shell does not care that your apps are still running and could conceivably be used if gnome-shell would just let you restart without logout. It just says 'screw you, log out and kill all your applications'. I've tried starting metacity and it will run, but I can't get rid of the 'on-top' oh no screen.
    -No window title search, like has been in Compiz scale and KDE for a very long time. Very hostile to large window count scenarios.
    -No way to show all windows belonging to an application in activities view exclusive of other windows
    -The application button is sloppy-focus unfriendly

    What I like about gnome 3:
    -Hot-plugged multi-display is handled pretty well (one of my biggest reasons to lean toward gnome away from KDE, less work when I dock my laptop).
    -I actually do like the new alt-tab,alt-above-tab. Having two tiers helps that be almost useful (had given up on alt-tab as unscalable without this)
    -Nominally having all task switching/launch elements hidden, but taking over the full screen when you want to switch or launch applications. Keeps my workspace cleaner and doesn't limit the real estate used to facilitate task switching/launching to some small corner of the screen when it is the only thing I am thinking about while that is happening.

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    1. Re:My commentary... by Pi1grim · · Score: 3, Interesting

      > The Gnome Live extensions integration is quite nice

      Are you kidding me? The sole fact, that the only place where you can turn extensions on and off is website is somewhat strange, if not you use a stronger word. Imagine me installing an extension and then needing to disable it later on — I need internet connection to disable an extension that is already installed on my system. This whole web-centric touch-ui with special disabilities support policy is leaving majority of users with unusable interface. Well, I guess, at least those people with special needs, that use Gnome3 on a x86 tablet while having a 24/7 internet connection will be delighted.

  4. Re:Epiphany - Web by jojoba_oil · · Score: 5, Funny

    Tech Support: What web browser are you using?

    User: Web.

    Tech Support: Right. What's the program you use to view the web?

    User: Web.

    Nope. Can't see how this would be a problem. Ever.

    But I think they were going for the same idea that Microsoft had when they added "Internet" and "Email" links to the start menu in XP. Generic shortcuts that launched whatever program you had setup as your default. At least Microsoft didn't rename the entire programs...

  5. interesting consequence of gnome 3 by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Interesting

    It added two more desktop environments to the linux world: Mate (a fork of Gnome 2 http://mate-desktop.org/ ) and Cinnamon (a fork of Gnome 3 http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ ). These new alternatives to Gnome 3 don't get the attention that they deserve.....

  6. Re:Will this be any different? by unixisc · · Score: 4, Informative

    Comice OS - a distro of Linux - took GNOME 3.2, and made it look exactly like OS-X. I'd think it's not difficult to tweak it so that it looks like Lion.

  7. Re:Engineers. They love to change things. by nschubach · · Score: 3, Interesting

    You can't favorite a program you download off the Internet to a subfolder of your home folder without that .desktop file. That's a usability problem. I don't care what the standard says.

    If you mean pin apps that don't have .desktop files - that is a freedesktop standard.

    Fine.. .then have Gnome Shell create that .desktop file using the executable name and default the path to the folder you ran it from and add it to favorites. Is it really that hard? Currently, if I right click on an app in that bar there is no option to add it to favorites. I have to open a terminal to run the application every time. The only workaround without manually creating the desktop file is using alacarte, but I find that doesn't always put the run path in the desktop files and some apps don't like that.

    You can do it in Unity, however. But Unity has some other really big issues that keep me from using it.

    As for default to lauch - https://extensions.gnome.org/extension/67/dash-click-fix/

    This should be a setting somewhere. I still don't know how to add/search for extensions (without this webpage?) Last time I checked by typing Extensions in launcher search, nothing comes up. There's also no apparent visible way to do it from the task bar or launcher. I can download new background images fairly easy... why are extensions hidden away?

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  8. Re:Will this be any different? by tuppe666 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Cinnamon is not a nice compromise. It is simply great. Its a way of accessing everything that is great about Gnome3 without any of the short term regressions.

  9. I look forward to wasting my ample free time by Pausanias · · Score: 4, Insightful

    My graduate students and I happily live in blissful ignorance of all this, running GNOME 2 under Ubuntu LTS (long term support) 10.04. I am able to configure my entire desktop without any need for downloading extensions. I have been able to go for a long time without a reinstall; this wonderful stable setup was an LTS to LTS upgrade from Hardy.

    Now 10.04 is not going to be supported forever. I am greatly looking forward to flushing all my hard-won knowledge of this desktop down the drain and spending time looking on line for this-or-that extension that will enable us to maintain the smooth workflow we have had so far. Indeed who am I to question to the wave of progress in GUI engineering. I bow down to my software engineer overlords who will enlighten me with the flaws in my current workflow and who will teach me to use my time in more efficient ways. I am grateful to you, GNOME 3 dev team, for this bountiful treasure of GUI improvement that awaits me in the near future.

  10. Re:Epiphany - Web by tuppe666 · · Score: 5, Interesting

    They did the same thing years ago with Totem, which is just called "Movie Player" (to considerable annoyance).

    What is wrong with it, is it needs no be universal. Its time to get rid of ALL the silly naming. Thing what is wrong with "Gnome Movie Player" or "Gnome Web". Let the renaming continue; "Epiphany" and "Totem" mean nothing.

  11. Re:Will this be any different? by tuppe666 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    (Mate) looks like a dead-end. I'm sticking with xfce. Those guys should, too. It will probably be easier to do what they want with that base instead of the Gnome 2 base

    Using cinnamon http://cinnamon.linuxmint.com/ its a step forward from Gnome 2 without the regressions.

  12. Re:Will this be any different? by Ignacio · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The other alternative was to start fixing Gnome 2's numerous bugs, and where's the fun in that?

    Yeah, why fix bugs we know when we can go write a whole bunch of NEW ones!

  13. Re:Multiple monitors? by Grishnakh · · Score: 4, Funny

    You don't need to use multiple monitors. The Gnome developers, who are UI experts and should never be questioned, have determined that multiple monitors are distracting and too complicated for anyone to use, so they don't support them. You need to just get rid of your extra monitor so you won't be confused and stop questioning the Gnome developers, because they are the world's premier UI experts and should never be questioned.

  14. Re:Epiphany - Web by b4dc0d3r · · Score: 3, Interesting

    This is a good idea. It is entrenched, however, by the idea of a 'unix name' or 'package name'. At sourceforge, you register with a unix name, which is in the URL. So the featured project Scribus is located here:
    http://sourceforge.net/projects/scribus/

    I need to install KDevelop, which package do I get? Easy, it should be apt-get kdevelop. What about "KDE Development Studio"? Well, I'd probably need some sort of GUI thing to let me select, and then know what the package name is.

    Short, unique names are how we do things, and getting that to change will require more than just the projects changing the official names. It has to satisfy the point-and-click people as well as the command-line people.

  15. Re:Will this be any different? by KugelKurt · · Score: 3, Informative

    KDE is beautiful, but buggy:

    It won't play videos over an smb:// connection. VLC simply throws an error.

    How is VLC supposed to play videos over KIO slaves when VLC is a pure Qt application that does not support KIO?