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Gawker Media To Require Commenters' Facebook, Twitter, Or Google Logins

First time accepted submitter wynterwynd writes "In a move that seems to be in line with Gawker Media founder Nick Denton's opinion of his sites' commenters, some Gawker Media sites are now instructing their commenters that they will have to link their Gawker commenter ID with their Facebook, Twitter, or Google accounts in order to log in. Is this really a good idea, considering the security issues Gawker has had in the past? Per the article, for 'security purposes' Gawker is 'putting our account security layer in the hands of some of the best in the business — major sites with more security expertise and resources than anyone else on the web.' To my mind, it's hard to see this as anything but a grab to milk Gawker commenters' social networking accounts for targeted ad revenue — which really shouldn't be a surpirse considering Denton's contempt for most of the Gawker community. Is this a step too far for an online community? Is it a cash grab or a genuine effort to encourage secure and responsible posting?"

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  1. Okay... by mholve · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Add Gawker to the same list the New York Times is on. That is, "pass."

    1. Re:Okay... by tripleevenfall · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The St. Paul Pioneer Press went this way last year. Unsurprisingly, participation in the comments has dropped to near zero.

      I can see why companies do it - this saves them the trouble of moderation, as people moderate themselves when their real names are used and they conceivably could face real-life consequences for what they post. Is real-life intimidation really the best way to police comments? Certainly not if you want more participation...

      I don't have an issue with it. I think the most important right we have online is the right to remain anonymous. I don't want an employer or anyone else to look at my comments on news or sports and judge my worthiness as an employee by them - which is why I simply choose not to participate when companies choose not to allow anonymity.

    2. Re:Okay... by TheRaven64 · · Score: 5, Funny

      It's difficult to boycott Gawker. It's like boycotting punching yourself in the face. Sure, you can tell everyone loudly you're not going to do it, but on the other hand no one is likely to believe that it's a matter of principle.

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    3. Re:Okay... by siddesu · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I would add this "Gawker" you speak about to my boycott list, but what is it? Is it one of those "websites" that you open with no-script and see a blank page? If so, they've been "boycotting" me for a few years now.

    4. Re:Okay... by nolife · · Score: 4, Interesting

      On the flip side, the more sites that reference facebook for their own services and advertising, the more estsablished Facebook gets and the more users that get cemetened in or stuck using it. I find it odd that more and more companies are now advertising "See us at www.facebook.com\ourcompany" instead of their own companies web site.

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  2. Well that's one less site I will comment on by StuartHankins · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I already don't comment on most sites which require a login (/. is an exception) -- but I can't even imagine wanting to link my personal social media account with a commenting account. What a horrible idea.

    The privacy issues alone are a big deal, but sometimes you want to say something that you can't have directly linked back to yourself (for various reasons). I'm not defending criminal activity or hate speech, but I could think of examples where expressing your view could cause issues because of your religion / country of residence / association with others etc.

    1. Re:Well that's one less site I will comment on by nine-times · · Score: 4, Insightful

      It has long been held by philosophers and courts that one of the keys to "free speech" is the option of anonymous speech. If you can't give your opinion anonymously, then there's no way you can be sure there will be no retribution.

    2. Re:Well that's one less site I will comment on by AngryDeuce · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Ditto. One benefit of having a name almost as common as "John Smith" is that the signal-to-noise ratio is far too high for anyone to really know what is actually a legitimate hit or one of the other thousands of "John Smiths" in the world. Plus, I happen to share my name with several very famous people, ranging from musicians to professional athletes to actors, so you're going to have to do some serious digging to find a hit that's not related to one of them. Certainly nothing within the first dozen pages on Google (and that's just when I gave up)...

      Funny, when I was a kid I always used to think my name was boring and wanted to change it to something more unique and memorable. Sure am glad I didn't now...

  3. I refuse to share my Real Name by cpu6502 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I refuse to link facebook or twitter or any other account that has my real name. If I can't login under an Email handle/alias then I simply don't post on that website.

    Sorry gawker. You lost my business/ad views.

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  4. Issue? What issue? by neokushan · · Score: 4, Informative

    The summary, as you might expect, is a little off.
    What's happening here is that Gawker is switching from its own account system to using the accounts of existing social services (Google, Facebook or twitter). This is not them asking for your account but rather asking you to AUTHORISE gawker's access to your account details. If this is an issue, please go talk to Disqus or even Twitter/Facebook/Google themselves, who also let you "link" accounts from other services, as well as a bunch of other sites. This is the way the web is going and is nothing new.

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  5. Where's the cash grab tie in? by icebike · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Just because you let Google handle the login doesn't mean Gawker gets anything more from you than an email address which you were already obligated to provide in the past. And since Gmail is already great at handling spam, there is precious little opportunity for Gawker to profit from this by selling your email address. Spamming Gmail accounts is already a fools errand.

    At least in Google's case, they glean nothing either, other than the fact that you use Gawker, but any advertising revenue that comes to google via that knowledge goes to Google, and not Gawker. All they provide Gawker is a YES or NO answer when you ask to log in.

    Given the rapidity with which one can create gmail/facebook/twitter accounts it won't assure "secure and responsible" posting either. Its easy enough to have an account that is reserved for such postings, even one per web-site if you want.

    All this does is allow Gawker to off-load all user account stuff to some other entity, making them less of a hacking target, because there will be Nothing Much There to Gain. (Some would say this is an attribute of Gawker Media in general.) Having one less web site holding my passwords in an insecure database is a plus as far as I am concerned.

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  6. Lifehacker by slapout · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I really wish someone would buy Lifehacker. I really like it but not Gawker.

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  7. Re:goodbye common sense by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Nothing like gawker having been hacked before to highlight how bad this is, as appropriately noted.

    How is this "bad"?
    Do you understand what is being discussed here? Gawker is not asking for your password for Google/Twitter/Facebook.
    Rather, the ask Google (for example) to authenticate you, and Google answers YES, or NO, and never lets Gawker see your password.

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  8. Don't worry by GameboyRMH · · Score: 5, Funny

    Didn't you read TFS?

    Gawker is "putting our account security layer in the hands of some of the best in the business — major sites with more security expertise and resources than anyone else on the web."

    You can rest easy, HBGary is on the case!

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  9. Re:goodbye common sense by omnichad · · Score: 4, Informative

    Technically, Facebook's authentication at a minimum gives a lot of personal info to the service. Even the most basic level of Facebook Connect gives them access to a list of your friends, profile information, and so on. So it's a little more than blind authentication.

  10. Re:Any site doing this needs their head examined.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The upshot: You want this. You didn't know how it works, so you rightly mistrusted it. But Its better.

    No, I don't want this.

    It's none of Google's business what I do on Nick Denton's sites. And it's none of Nick Denton's business what my G+/Y!/FB profile was.

    If I had any use for Gawker Media, all it means is that I'd have to set up yet another browser profile and associate that with whatever disposable email address I'd originally created for use with his sites.

    Anyone who gives a damn about security or privacy issues knows the value of compartmentalization, and ought to be rightfully resentful of any attempt to bridge unrelated accounts.