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Why Onagawa Nuclear Power Station Survived the Tsunami

Kyusaku Natsume writes "While the town of Onagawa, Miyagi Prefecture, was hit hard by the March 2011 tsunami, the nuclear plant it shares with the equally devastated city of Ishinomaki survived. The reason it did so is mostly down to the personal strength and tenacity of one Yanosuke Hirai, who passed away in 1986 and insisted that the plant should have been protected by a 14.8 m tall seawall. A great quote from the article: 'Corporate ethics and compliance may be similar, but their cores are different, from the perspective of corporate social responsibility, we cannot say that there is no need to question a company's actions just because they are not a crime under the law.'"

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  1. Legality by macraig · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Laws and legal liability are a subset of social ethics. Just because you can do something legally isn't a vindication that you should do it.

    1. Re:Legality by hey! · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Laws and legal liability are a subset of social ethics. Just because you can do something legally isn't a vindication that you should do it.

      Laws and legal liability *intersect* social ethics. There are cases where complying with law or regulations would be unethical.

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    2. Re:Legality by Sarten-X · · Score: 5, Informative

      Just to clarify a point here, because it's a pet peeve of mine...

      Jury nullification is for when the law itself is unethical, not just when one application is unethical. If you have an ethical reason to break a law, that's mitigating circumstances, which can itself lead to a "not guilty" verdict, without bringing the issue of the law's legality into question (which almost always just makes a trial more complicated).

      There are really rather few cases where nullification is a reasonable option, but the hivemind here seems to be obsessed with it as a panacea for unpopular laws.

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    3. Re:Legality by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 4, Insightful

      it works the other way, too.

      just because someone bought a law decrying X to be illegal does not mean its immoral to so X.

      in fact, if the law is recent enough, likely THE LAW is unethical and the behavior perfectly fine. very likely, given our back-assward world we now live in.

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    4. Re:Legality by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Interesting

      JN _is_ a viable way to fight unjust laws. not just instances of injustice but whole laws.

      we all know that getting laws passed (or even worse, revoked) is near impossible for regular people.

      the JN option is essentially the only option we have left, as 'little people'. our power faded when corps took over making (and even sometimes enforcing) laws.

      but if you are in the jury box, you DO have a way to say 'enough is enough' this is bullshit and this guy does not deserve X to happen to him. I simply don't give a shit about what law you claim he broke; sending him to prison is WRONG and I won't allow it'.

      that's what JN is about. standing up for your view of ethics even in the face of 'establishment' saying otherwise.

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    5. Re:Legality by roman_mir · · Score: 3

      That's not a law based on which an individual will be put in front of a federal judge, do you even understand what it is?

      Criminal laws are handled by States.

    6. Re:Legality by roman_mir · · Score: 2

      Oh, by the way, while you are absolutely correct about my stance on democracy, that was not really the main point of the comment.

      The main point was that at any time that federal government is one side of a legal issue and an individual on the other side, federal government must always lose, no exceptions.

      There can be no case when it is correct or right or moral or just for the federal government to win any case at all when it concerns an individual.

      States can deal with criminal and other laws where it concerns an individual, federal government must not even be allowed to deal with individuals, only with collective that are the States.

    7. Re:Legality by iserlohn · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Um.. did it ever cross you mind that the weathy has a responsibility to ensure that the society which is has benifitted from immensely is sustained?

      There is a moral argument for providing a social safety net (and by extension a working universal healthcare system), and then there is a practical one - a country where the majority of it citizens is not able to sustain a minimium living standard will be prone to widespread civil unrest.

      May I remind you that there were a time when government was small - social cohesion was usually maintained by force - and the living standards of the many were squalid. Are you seriously adovcating the return to those times (just so we can compete with China on cheap labor)?

    8. Re:Legality by iserlohn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      By your argument, Somalia must have the fastest growing economy on earth due to the lack of government intervention.

      The industrialization of America is not the result of less government - (in those times America has similar amount of industrial regulation when compared to its contemporaries). It is because America at that time had lots of resources, including natural resources and labor that has not been fully developed into an industrial economy. Similar to how China is right now.

      I hate to say this, but you're adding nothing to the argument. The thing we should be discussing is not whether to regulate - it is established beyond doubt in economics, especially after the events of 2007, that blind deregulation leads to extremely bad outcomes. What we need to determine is what to regulate and how to do it.

      Your argument that because government regulation may lead to some bad outcomes some of the time, so shouldn't be doing it all of the time is a logical fallcy and doesn't hold water. BTW, the proper way of dealing with government tyranny is to ensure that the constitution of government is accountable to the people, not to destroy the mechanism of government.

    9. Re:Legality by miro2 · · Score: 4, Insightful

      May I remind you that there was time when USA had the most individual freedoms FROM government intervention (specifically between the Civil war and WWI)

      I don't think that was exactly the most freedom-filled time for those of us who are not white, straight, men.

    10. Re:Legality by ultranova · · Score: 2

      You are right, I am NOT keen on democracy. USA had it correct - it wasn't built as a democracy, it was built as a republic.

      "Republic" means a form of government that is controlled by its subjects. In other words, it's pretty much synonymous with democracy.

      Also, the alternative to rule by many is rule by few, also known as dictatorship. Those aren't famous for maintaining people's freedoms either.

      Democracy always leads to tyranny, not to freedom.

      People keep on saying this, yet the only instances I know of where this actually happened were countries still unstable after a revolution, where democracy was killed before it could take root. Stabilized democracies seem remarkably resilient against would-be tyrants, even when said wannabes are backed by corporate overlords.

      Care to give some examples?

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    11. Re:Legality by Jawnn · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Um.. did it ever cross you mind that the weathy has a responsibility to ensure that the society which is has benifitted from immensely is sustained?

      - what crossed my mind is that this is exactly the kind of thought process that destroys the society by taking away people's individual rights and killing off the economy.

      The history of the United States would contradict your fairy-tale views. When the U.S. was it's most prosperous, when the standard of living for the average citizen was at it's absolute highest, the extremely wealthy were "suffering" tax rates far, far higher than at any time before or since.

    12. Re:Legality by iserlohn · · Score: 2

      Maybe you should heed your calling and build up Somolia into the world class economy that they deserve due to their superior libertarian ideals. May I be the first to wish you luck.

      Your ability to see reality through libertarian-o-vision is truly amazing.

    13. Re:Legality by jd · · Score: 4, Informative

      Then you're a moron. Your points are contradicted by reality.

      Individual rights cannot exist without collective rights for them to exist within. Anarchy has total freedom but no rights.

      Social safety nets exist because all natural systems degenerate to the 80:20 rule and the 80:20 rule is neither efficient nor ethical.

      The US has never been particularly productive, individual freedoms != individual rights (Americans really need to grasp this), and the time between the Civil War and WW1 is when it was guilty of most of the theft of technology from other nations, had one of the worst civil rights records and was most interested in financially backing tyrannies and dictatorships. It fought many wars in that time out of greed and perversion (not claiming more recent wars were better, merely those wars were cynical, self-serving and degenerate), xenophobia and religious extremism were rampant. The South, especially, became dangerously close to Failed Nation status out of its desire to circumvent individual rights in the name of individual freedom.

      I regard the US as the worst possible example of progressive or rational thinking. The first President had it right - political parties are destructive monstrosities and liberty is no excuse for the destruction of society.

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    14. Re:Legality by Xyrus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      - what crossed my mind is that this is exactly the kind of thought process that destroys the society by taking away people's individual rights and killing off the economy.

      Your opinion is backed up by facts. Popular uprising and social unrest always results from the haves trampling the have-nots. You can either think ahead and plan for a sustainable system or you can pilfer by force through a robber-baron culture until people get pissed off enough to take to the streets.

      not by using majority to steal from minority. There is absolutely nothing moral or just about it.

      Nobody is stealing anything. It takes money to maintain a large nation, and it has to come from somewhere. You certainly aren't going to get it from the poor, which make up a surprisingly large percentage of this country.

      Sounds to me like your perfectly happy letting the rich rape the poor though.

      - May I remind you that there was time when USA had the most individual freedoms FROM government intervention (specifically between the Civil war and WWI) and that was the time when USA became the most productive country, becoming world's biggest creditor nation, exporting highest quality, affordable manufactured goods. All this, while increasing the strength of its own economy and making everybody who lived in it much wealthier (the dollar gained value by factor of 2, while USA still became the largest exporter of manufactured goods).

      [citation needed]

      Some of the worst economic crisis happened during that period, including recurring bank runs (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_recessions_in_the_United_States). What your describing happened after WW2, and that's because we were one of the places with an economy and manufacturing capability still intact after the war.

      This was definitely prior to USA growing a huge government and destroying its economy and society in the process, while becoming world's greatest debtor nation not only on the planet at the time, but in history of humanity.

      That's the fault of congress and the wealthy that fund and control them. In case you hadn't notice, there aren't exactly many poor people in positions of power so your "tyranny of the majority" argument has no basis. Th wealthy are in control of the nation, and it is the wealthy who will drive it into the ground for their own benefit.

      USA is now bankrupt, only holding together by other nations providing it with the consumables that it eats without producing anything in return.

      We are not bankrupt. You're opinion is that we are bankrupt, but by any legal definition we are far from being bankrupt.

      And once again, you have only the wealthy to blame. They pushed to remove regulations and restrictions, and once they got what they wanted they shipped everything off overseas to increase profits, created entire markets on speculation, and trashed the economy and manufacturing in this country in the process. Sure, we can get those jobs back if we roll back labor laws to allow conditions like third world countries to occur here but I'm pretty sure that will result in some serious issues.

      There is no such thing as 'responsibility' of the few to maintain standard of living for many, that's pure nonsense.

      Well, at least not to a sociopath such as yourself.

      Voluntarism is the key, but it only works in a free society, there is no voluntarism in a totalitarian regime.

      Voluntarism doesn't work at large scales. Do you honestly think people will donate enough to offset the social safety nets in this country? Especially when almost all the wealth is controlled by a very tiny percent of the population? You're incredibly naive if you thinks so.

      Again: democracy leads to tyranny, that's what you have now.

      You really have no fucking idea what tyranny is. Grow up.

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    15. Re:Legality by Jawnn · · Score: 2

      Like I said, "fairy tale". Have a look at meaningful, real numbers. Things like the marginal tax rates and the median adjusted income, and then tell me that post WWII was so miserable, or that the 19th century was so wonderful. Or better yet, explain why the your unicorns and free market approach of the late 19th and early 20th centuries led to such a fucked up economy that it ended in The Great Depression?

  2. Re:Help needed by Sarten-X · · Score: 3, Funny

    Dear Fellow Hacker,

    Unfortunately, I will be unable to provide the assistance you desire, as I have some serious concerns regarding the engineering work that has already been done on the project, and I doubt the current estimates provide an accurate foundation for future work.

    Firstly, there is the estimate of "a hour or less" to read a Slashdot post. While I have spent an hour reading a comment before, it was the proofreading of my own essay-length point-by-point rebuttal. The referenced post is obviously not nearly long enough or detailed enough to require an hour to read, so I see this as an intentional over-estimate, seeking to receive a larger donation of time than is actually needed.

    Second, you seem to have greatly underestimated the size of a hydraulic pump in comparison to a horizontal plane. You ask for "an hand in finding an hydraulic pump that is in an horizontal plane". A plane, being two-dimensional, has exactly zero thickness, which is not sufficient to hold even an atom of a hydraulic pump.

    Finally, you appear to for the power requirements of a helicopter. Helicopters can of course be designed to have any amount of available power, but that is not my concern here. Rather, I question the efficiency of your design, as the engine will need extra power to compensate for the added weight of the extraneous "n"s that appear to be attached to your "a"s.

    Yours sincerely,

    Grammar Nazi

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  3. Huzzah! by tqk · · Score: 3, Insightful

    ... we cannot say that there is no need to question a company's actions just because they are not a crime under the law.

    The spirit of the Samurai still lives. This is good. I'd thought MacArthur had bled that out of the Japanese.

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    1. Re:Huzzah! by ColdWetDog · · Score: 3, Insightful

      The spirit of the Samurai still lives. This is good. I'd thought MacArthur had bled that out of the Japanese.

      Samurai were conservative engineers? Who knew? I thought they were a warrior race. Did they wear the Medieval Japanese equivalent of a pocket protector?

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    2. Re:Huzzah! by tqk · · Score: 4, Insightful

      The spirit of the Samurai still lives. This is good. I'd thought MacArthur had bled that out of the Japanese.

      Samurai were conservative engineers? Who knew? I thought they were a warrior race.

      Wikipedia: "From the earliest times, the Samurai felt that the path of the warrior was one of honor, emphasizing duty to one's master, and loyalty unto death." That's what I was talking about. He didn't just "build to code." He built what he believed was necessary to satisfy the requirements of the situation. He was also proved right.

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    3. Re:Huzzah! by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Funny

      I'm not sure that's a 'Samurai' thing as much as a 'not a sociopath' thing...

  4. when will we ever learn by wickerprints · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The right thing to do is not necessarily the profitable or expedient thing to do.

    To quote Richard Feynman, "For a successful technology, reality must take precedence over public relations, for nature cannot be fooled." Engineering must NEVER have its integrity compromised by issues of money, politics, law, marketing, religion, bureaucracy, or superstition. History repeatedly teaches this to us and yet we still obstinately refuse to learn. And the result is that people are injured or killed.

    1. Re:when will we ever learn by giorgist · · Score: 3

      Always relevant

      http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YlVDGmjz7eM

    2. Re:when will we ever learn by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Insightful

      I think that Feynman, while he has a nice point, is really far too optimistic in saying that we 'refuse to learn'. There are, certainly, examples of engineering fuckups caused by genuine failures of understanding or lack of information; but there is also the common instance where the 'we' making the decision knows full well that they won't be the people who get injured or killed(or even subjected to civil or criminal liability) and so make the perfectly value-rational decision to go ahead and do it.

      There are ignorance problems and there are malice problems(and, hovering somewhere between the two, there are the gamblers who take on risks that turn out to go badly)...

    3. Re:when will we ever learn by lennier1 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Better safety measures to protect their million/billion dollar assets are very much in their interest.

    4. Re:when will we ever learn by AmiMoJo · · Score: 4, Informative

      Better safety measures to protect their million/billion dollar assets are very much in their interest.

      Two reasons why it is not:

      1. Profits are higher 99% of the time, and when something goes wrong it wasn't their fault (big tsunami, rouge operator mistake etc). Ultimately someone has to decide to spend money on safety, and chances are that person won't be to blame if there is an accident but will get a bonus if the share price goes up so there is little incentive for them to chose the less profitable option.

      2. The majority of the cost of an accident is born by the government anyway. The cost of insuring nuclear installations would make them uneconomical so the government has to do it. I don't have a figure for Japan to hand by in the UK the required insurance is £140m per site and in the US it is $10bn for the entire industry. Fukushima has already cost orders of magnitude more than that, and while TEPCO will eventually pick up some of that cost the majority is being met by the government.

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    5. Re:when will we ever learn by TapeCutter · · Score: 5, Insightful

      or even subjected to civil or criminal liability

      No, unlike software engineers, real engineers are legally accountable (at least in the west). If you sign off on a doggy bridge design and the bridge falls down, it will be shown (by other engineers) that you failed in your due dilligence, you will go to jail, you will never hold another engineering position on a western project. You will get sued in civil court, not just by the victims but also by the insurance companies that will have to pay to clean up your mess and build a new bridge.

      Politicians have nowhere near this level of accountability. If they are warned about (say) levees but ignore the problem for decades. When they inevetibly break at the hieght of a king tide, it's called a "natural disaster", "a freak occurence" or if they're really nailed to the wall, "aging infrastructue".

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    6. Re:when will we ever learn by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 2

      Software engineers at least in my country are also liable, just like regular engineers. In fact they are regular engineers. Software developers not so much.

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    7. Re:when will we ever learn by LordLucless · · Score: 2

      If you sign off on a doggy bridge design and the bridge falls down

      The poor little pooches :(

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    8. Re:when will we ever learn by Solandri · · Score: 2

      No, unlike software engineers, real engineers are legally accountable (at least in the west)

      In a way, that's part of the problem. Too much emphasis on punishing failure, not enough on rewarding success. That philosophy works well when the failure mode is commonplace. If you design a plane and it can't fly, you can't sell it. The failure forces you to redesign it until it can fly.

      But in the case of rare failures (plane crashes, nuclear accidents, bridge collapses, etc), it's not an adequate motivator for making good decisions. 99% of people who dangerously cut corners are never chastised for it because it never results in a failure. The unlucky 1% are the only ones who get the negative feedback. OTOH, most of those who did the right thing and cut corners were never recognized for their foresight and due diligence. In fact, a good many of them were probably disciplined for wasting money compared to the guy who did cut corners. Rather than receiving positive feedback for doing the right thing, they receive negative feedback.

      It's the same reason we're dumping billions of dollars into security theater at airports. A dozen people hijack some planes and fly them into buildings killing thousands. Consequently, the organizations in charge of safeguarding air travel vow never to let that happen again and waste oodles of money on ultimately ineffective countermeasures against a terrorist tactic which will probably never be attempted again. Meanwhile, the alert border guard who spotted someone behaving oddly and stopped the millennium bomber gets a few headlines and fades from memory within a week. We've had two major incidents where intrusive airport security checks clearly failed (shoe bomber and underwear bomber), and one major incident where behavioral profiling succeeded. Yet most of the money is being spent on even more intrusive security checks, rather than enhanced behavioral profiling training.

  5. Civil Engineers by tapspace · · Score: 2

    As a computer engineer, I am always a little jealous of the "all in a days work" attitude of good civil engineers. This is a bit of a puff piece, but the unfortunate fact is, we, as engineers, often can't or at least don't anticipate all possible problems down the line. This is an amazing story of success, but it just underscores the fact that this is exception, not the rule. Regardless, technology keeps marching and we can only hope to get better and better, despite governments' inadequacies.

    1. Re:Civil Engineers by TheTurtlesMoves · · Score: 3, Informative

      I wouldn't say its the exception. After all it not news when bridges don't fall down, or last longer than expected or [insert positive outcome here]. Its only news when something goes wrong. The bulk of our engineering works fine not only in design conditions, but well in many cases a little "off design".

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  6. Social Contracts by MrKaos · · Score: 4, Insightful
    Too often, in corporations, we see that it is up to the individual making sacrifices to their career to make a company fulfil it's social contract to operate ethically to make profit.

    I wonder if TEPCO will attempt to claim credit for something they didn't want to do.

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    1. Re:Social Contracts by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Funny

      We at TEPCO are proud to retroactively congratulate any and all peons whose thankless personal sacrifices turned out to have been in our best interest. We would like to take a moment to encourage future sacrifices by employees on behalf of TEPCO.

      While not everyone will have the honor of insisting on sound engineering at vulnerable nuclear facilities, we are sure that all of you can find a way to squeeze in some unpaid overtime or not seek reimbursement of job related expenses.

    2. Re:Social Contracts by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      what's so sad about the whole fukushima mess and this article, is that the meltdown wasn't even caused by the tsunami - unit 1 (at least) was already melting down, out of control, and venting radioactive xenon, iodine and caesium before the tsunami even hit. the earthquake itself was enough to shear the reactor coolant pipes. even if the diesel generators weren't wiped out, the plant would have suffered the exact same fate.

      but for all the apologists saying plants in the usa are safe, i wonder what they'll do when an earthquake knocks out cooling for a plant that's nearby themselves or their family. probably run for the hills i assume - any nuclear plant that's not 100% passively safe (that is, every plant on the face of the earth as of right now) should never have been built. then again, who cares what engineer's think about failsafes.

      but we had to go with a reactor that could breed bomb-grade plutonium, instead of a passively safe plan like a thorium reactor. look where it's got us.

  7. A toast to Mr. Hirai by Tablizer · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They should build a giant statue of Yanosuke Hirai as a reminder. My organization needs one also.

    1. Re:A toast to Mr. Hirai by Bayoudegradeable · · Score: 3, Informative

      Hirai-sama Banzai! (No, no, no, this is not a war chant. It literally means, "Sir (give or take) Hirai, ten thousand generations!" May Hirai be remembered for ten thousand generations, indeed.

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  8. Corporate Social Responsibility by lkcl · · Score: 3, Insightful

    If you've read Professor Yunus's Book, "Creating a World without Poverty" in which he describes the concept of "Social Business" as an alternative to pathological profit-maximisation, you will fully appreciate his interpretation of "Corporate Social Responsibility" being synonymous with "Corporate Financial *irresponsibility*".

    the damage caused by allowing Corporations to get so out of control at a National (and an International) level should by now be quite obvious, with these kinds of examples such as Fukushima. there is an alternative pathogen which consumes all resources and maximises its own gain to the absolute exclusion of all other considerations: it's called Cancer. Profit-maximising Corporations are a Cancer and should be treated as a disease.

    1. Re:Corporate Social Responsibility by indymike · · Score: 2

      Profit-maximising Corporations are a Cancer and should be treated as a disease. Yes, lets go back to the old system where the king was in charge and everyone else was peasants. Putting all that power in the government clearly resulted in more freedom, higher incomes and safer work environments for her subjects. BTW it doesn't matter if the king is a person, committee or computer. The concentration of power is the problem, not the king.

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  9. What about the people in the cities? by tp1024 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    While I'm far from disagreeing that nuclear power stations should be as safe as conceivably possible, what about the cities?

    18 Cities were largely or completely destroyed by the tsunami (others merely to some small part). This is where people lived, this is where people died. Where is the scandal, where is the outrage about exposing some 500,000 to the risk of the on-rushing water? Where is the investigation why it could be that almost 20,000 people died?

    There has been so much supposedly outraged talk about Fukushima Daiichi, about how anybody could expose the people to such risks, that it is grotesque that nobody is talking about the risk that was there, that was obvious, that killed people.

  10. logical conclusion by spineboy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Interesting argument, but it relies on a logical fallacy that implies our wealth is derived from being free, and not from being a growing industrialized nation. China might be an argument against your supposition.

      Other thought - while our country was "free" there were horrors, like rivers catching on fire from accumulated waste, and working situations like "the Jungle" by Upton Sinclair.

    Our wealth is beng polarized by the new Oil Barrons, and wasteful wars, etc.

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