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NY District Judge Dismisses Blogger Suit Against Huffington Post
The Chicago Tribute reports on a ruling announced Friday that the Huffington Post violated no law in profiting enormously from the unpaid contributions of bloggers who wrote much of the content that has spurred the site's success. Says the article: "John E. Koeltel, a district court judge in New York, dismissed a class action sought brought against the Huffington Post by unpaid bloggers seeking $105 million from AOL and Arianna Huffington's media empire. The bloggers argued that though they initially agreed to do the work for free, the Huffington Post was 'unjustly enriched as a result of this practice,' violating New York state law. Koeltel disagreed. 'There is no question that the plaintiffs submitted their materials to The Huffington Post with no expectation of monetary compensation and that they got what they paid for -- exposure in The Huffington Post,' Koeltel wrote."
They agreed to write for free, there's no unjust enrichment if you stated that there's no expectation of compensation at any turn. I hope some other cases go by this precedent, I don't want people taking me to court for cash from my small business.
Theres an old saying "Never do owt fer nowt" these idiots have learned a lesson in capitalism, may they learn from it well.
The "FIRST POST!" guy would've been next in line at the court docket.
Am I the only one who thinks that Arianna Huffington is a self-serving money grubbing bitch who switched from being a hard core conservative to being "liberal" just because she saw a better market opportunity there?
Incidentally, the ruling is spot on. There was no expectation of getting paid until after the sale of the site to AOL for big $$$ when they suddenly had an open-source coder like epiphany: Hey, others are making millions from my work and I'm getting nothing!!! Sorry dumbass, don't work for free next time.
Negative moral value of force outweighs the positive value of good intentions.
There's a very simple lesson here: If you think your work is worth something, don't give it away for free. Donating your time and the fruits of your labor to an open-source project or to a non-profit as charity work is one thing. But the harm that comes to a person from giving their work to a for-profit corporation is a self-inflicted injury. Furthermore, it doesn't just harm the people doing it, it also harms the professionals who are unable to do the same kind of work for a living, by undercutting them.
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Once upon a time, 'Did X for Y' for free may have looked good on your resume. Now, it's barely more than a comma. Now, it's a comma that you paid for in sweat equity, because you were good enough to ask a favour of, but not good enough to pay.
This!
And with companies abusing their unpaid "internships" and yet corporate profits are at record levels. And if they do fall, you just know that they're going to can people, send more work overseas using the lie that they can't get enough qualified people in their home country or blame it on some lame excuse like "government regulations".
Internships is just abuse of people's desperation to get their foot in the door and to actually get a job. And then there are the rationalizations by hiring managers that just cons folks into giving their labor away.
And about the "not good enough to pay" part
And volunteer work? Doesn't do a damn thing because everyone is doing it to stay busy and we've all bought into the lie that it looks good on a resume because "we're doing something while we're not working". Nope. It just means you can't get a paying job because you're defective in some way. Of course, no hiring manager will ever give you feedback.
I swear to god, if I ever get a chance to become a take-over "private equity" guy like Romney was, I won't can all the peons; I'll take out the managers first with the reason that they're not qualified, their skills are out of date, and they show a serious lack of planning.
I will then instruct them to get "re-training" in some marketable field.
Since the general slant of HuffPo is a self righteous rich white liberal rage against the Cul de Sac smash the capitalist machine but give me a free iPad give me a bailout because I can't afford the school loan for my $250,000 MFA in post modern lesbian Marxist fiction I just love it that they're mad they're not getting paid MONEY for their ravings.
You can't make this stuff up.
I run a small business in which I provide legal services for small law firms, including process service, depositions (in my state, as a notary I am an officer of the court and may swear people in and record depositions with a/v equipment), and transcriptions. My business works because in many cases, I can offer said services cheaper than national companies. Sometimes, I will discount or even provide for free service for a new client. I do, however, invoice them for the service and write it down as paid. I discuss their finances before hand, let them know that they will recieve a non-collectable paid out invoice, and I do not account for it in my business income/taxes/whatever. I have garnered several new clients by showing them what I do, and after that they happily pay for my services. I guess the point is, if you are going to do something for free and expect to be paid for it later on, do it on your own terms. No sympathy for folks who sign a contract to do free work and then sue later for damages. Although, that helps me in the long run because it gives lawers more bullshit to take to court, and I get paid when they do that. Keep suing everybody, America.
Koalas. They're telepathic. Plus, they control the weather. -Margaret
Maybe I shouldn't be writing this.
Is your name Sarah, and do you want to meet up sometime? I like your style.
Koalas. They're telepathic. Plus, they control the weather. -Margaret
There's a guy who did sabermetrics in baseball who came up with a completely revolutionary way of evaluating pitchers and spread his knowledge for free: http://www.thepostgame.com/features/201101/sabermetrician-exile
It's affected millions of dollars worth of salaries. He now refuses to do any work for free.
Except for ending slavery, the Nazis, communism, & securing American independence, war has never solved anything.
How is it different from Slashdot, Google, Facebook, Youtube, etc?
Table-ized A.I.
Chicago Tribute? LOL! How appropriate for such a corrupt city!
There is a newspaper called the Chicago Tribune, I think that's what they meant...
-- You are in a maze of little, twisty passages, all different... --
and the wikipedia website goes paywall and all the data dumps go dark.
Prices in your country might of course vary but where I live, spending some 500-700 euros (670-930 dollars by current rate) gets you a whole night with someone who is young, clean (both from drugs and disease), not a victim of pimping/slavery/etc. (some even give you a receipt and pay taxes) and takes their work seriously. The price for an hour is pretty stable at 250 euros (330 dollars) and many let you buy even a shorter duration but of course if you buy 30 to 60 minutes you don't have time for much more than the sex. When you buy a whole night, you can kindly ask if they would throw in a massage, some roleplay and that kind of stuff... and of course your purchase isn't entirely ruined if you don't happen to feel horny the exact moment you have booked the time for.
I've noticed that while the prices are pretty high for my wallet, it is sometimes worth it. I tend to get pretty stressed up in my work and sometimes there is nothing better to relieve stress than to spend a night with a nice professional... with no other obligations at all (aside from common courtesy, obviously). And with that kind of arrangements, prices, etc. I don't feel too bad for being part of the oppressive patriarchy and whatsoever.