DHS Will Now Vet UK Air Passengers To Mexico, Canada, Cuba

First time accepted submitter illtud writes "From April, UK passengers flying to Mexico, Eastern Canada or Cuba will have to submit their details at least 72 hours before boarding to the U.S. Department of Homeland Security for pre-flight vetting (as all passengers to the U.S. itself have had to do for a while). If they find against you, you're not getting on the plane, even though you're not going to the U.S. The Independent (UK quality newspaper) has the story."

Comments

Huh?

[fullback]

I'm a mature, naturally calm person never prone to profane outbursts, but the U.S. needs to fuck off.

Re:Huh?

[Guy Harris]

If we were prone to fucking off, you'd be speaking German or Russian right now.

If we were prone to fucking off, Iran might have a reasonable secular democracy now. Just because certain US actions might have achieved good goals, that does not mean that all US actions are quite so beneficial. And, in this particular case (just as in the cases of, say, the coups against Arbenz in Guatemala, Mossadegh in Iran, and Allende in Chile), in this particular case, the world (and, for this case, the US) would be better off if we truly did fuck off.

Re:Flying over US airspace.

[Anonymous Coward]

UK -> Canada never comes near US airspace.

Re:Already happening

[thesupraman]

Fantastic idea Mr Moron.

Now, do you realise how many other countries airspace YOUR carriers fly over? How many of their laws are not
forced upon your carriers? Would you like them enforced?

There are international agreements and standards for these things, DHS just doesnt believe they have to comply
with anyones agreements (including it seems their own countries in many cases..)

And even more to the point, assuming the 'perceived risk' is someone taking control of the aircraft to crash it, how
would this safer if they took control outside US airspace, then flew in? aircraft can change course you know..

Its all just the most disgusting form of empire building and powerplays by DHS, as they have proved again and
again, I hope you are enjoying losing your freedoms slice at a time.

There are so many other actually useful things that could be focused on, but instead we just have endless security
theatre, empire building, and red tape to punish those who do follow the rules. IT seems so far more crime has been
created by DHS (all the stolen luggage, privacy violations, personal violations, etc) than stopped.

Re:Flying over US airspace.

[BasilBrush]

How inconvenient is it going to be if every other country in the world insists on vetting all US carrier passengers flying over THEIR airspace? As a US citizen you might have to have your flight plans checked by several different countries for a single flight. And some of those countries not particularly nice countries at that.

Enjoy your flight!

Re:Emigration vs Immigration control

[Phrogman]

I sincerely hope this gets challenged that way. I am getting thoroughly sick of the American Empire and its Imperialist ways.
Of course, Harper is charge still and the Conservatives believe in sucking up to the US, so even if it was determined this was illegal under Canadian law, nothing would ever be done.