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Ask Slashdot: My Host Gave a Stranger Access To My Cloud Server, What Can I Do?

zzzreyes writes "I got an email from my cloud server to reset the admin password, first dismissed it as phishing, but a few emails later I found one from an admin telling me that they had given a person full access to my server and revoked it, but not before 2 domains were moved from my account. I logged into my account to review the activity and found the form the perpetrator had submitted for appointment of new primary contact and it infuriated me, given the grave omissions. I wrote a letter to the company hoping for them to rectify the harm and they offered me half month of hosting, in a sign of good faith. For weeks I've been struggling with this and figure that the best thing to do is to ask my community for advice and help, so my dear slashdotters please share with me if you have any experience with this or know of anyone that has gone through this. What can I do?"

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  1. Tell us who it was. by characterZer0 · · Score: 5, Informative

    If it was my provider, I'm leaving.

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    1. Re:Tell us who it was. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'd suggest checking the submission tags; there might be a clue there.

  2. And people wonder why I'm against the cloud. by Paleolibertarian · · Score: 5, Informative

    As long as your data is out of your hands it is extremely vulnerable. The hosting company only cares about the money you pay them and little else. If they're hacked, too bad. If they're servers are down, too bad. if the justice department comes with a request, all your data belong to them. Host your own systems on your own property and make your own "in-house" backups. The cloud by definition is vaporware.

  3. Re:Talk to a Lawyer by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    I agree that you need to talk to a lawyer, and I am coming from experience since I am a lawyer. My gut reaction is that unless you actually sustained tangible damages (such as loss of business revenue, harm to your business reputation, or having to pay out of pocket expenses to clean up the mess created by the host) you probably don't have much legal recourse against the host. However, depending on the state where you live and the state where the host is located, there may be consumer protection or privacy laws that provide for statutory penalties of some amount for acts such as this.

    I practice law in Florida, and I get similar inquiries quite often and my first question is generally "what have you lost?". If all you suffered is your own disappointment and frustration with the company, it is not going to be worth the time or effort for you to keep dealing with it. Don't use the company anymore, and feel free to report them to whatever consumer protection agency you feel. But be warned that you should never exaggerate the facts, as I've also seen consumers sued by companies alleging defamation when the customer sprinkles some fantasy in with the truth. Don't put yourself on the wrong side of a lawsuit, because chances are the company will have the resources to sue you and you would be left paying out of pocket to hire an attorney to defend you.

    My advice? Talk to a lawyer just to see what your options are. But don't let your emotional response govern over good sense.

  4. Re:Talk to a Lawyer by PCM2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    When you visit a lawyer for the first time, you shouldn't be doing it with a mind to threaten a lawsuit. You're going for advice. You probably have some kind of contract that governs your relationship with the hosting provider. You might not have had a lawyer read it before you signed it; do that now. Then you can ask exactly what the hosting provider may be liable for, and where they may have effectively covered their own asses. If you do think you might want to threaten a lawsuit, it's important first to know whether you have a leg to stand on.

    Empty threats to sue may sound like hot air. A letter on an attorney's letterhead that specifies the ways in which the hosting provider is in breach of contract will probably be taken seriously. And 90 percent of the time, the issue will be resolved before it ever gets to court. Nobody wants court.

    Also, don't assume this process will lead to you getting absolutely everything you think you deserve. Have some sort of minimum compensation in mind that would allow you to walk away feeling like you've had some justice. Your lawyer will help you figure out this number, too. Negotiations can proceed from there.

    But if you won't be happy until the hosting provider is well and thoroughly punished for what they did, you will probably walk away disappointed. Especially if they're a public company, you're not going to be able to shame them into giving you what you want. The civil legal process is there to determine what you may be owed, legally. It's not there to exact vengeance for you. In fact, you'll sleep better at night if you just let that go.

    Really, I think the most important thing here is to begin the process of moving to a hosting provider that will give you better service. Everything else is secondary. In fact, I would skip the "negative publicity" part, except in private. Particularly if you're investigating legal options, trash-talking the hosting provider publicly before proceedings begin could work against you. It could even become the source of a counter-suit.

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  5. Re:Protecting the guilty to trap the innocent? by Tacvek · · Score: 5, Informative

    The tag was applied by the submitter. See the Original submission and notice the link to the original source, which is a letter the submitter wrote to Rackspace about this incident.

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