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Nearby Star May Have More Planets Than Our Solar System

Posted by Unknown on from the told-you-space-lizards-were-real dept.

The Bad Astronomer writes "HD 10180 is a near-twin of the Sun about 130 light years away. It's known to have at least six planets orbiting it, but a new analysis of the data shows clear indications of three more, for a total of nine! This means HD 10180 has more planets than our solar system. And whether you think Pluto is a planet or not, all nine of these aliens worlds have masses larger than Earth's, putting them firmly in the 'planet' category."

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  1. Re:Yes, but... by mwvdlee · · Score: 4, Funny

    HD 1080i has only half the planets of HD 10180, it just looks the same as it's an interlacing solar system.

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  2. Re:mass? by meglon · · Score: 4, Informative

    It's because it hasn't cleared it's neighborhood of other objects (not including it's moons). Pluto is basically one of the largest objects in a debris disk. Had it accreted that disk, we'd still call it to planet.

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  3. Re:Yes, but... by Penguinisto · · Score: 4, Funny

    So, how many of you saw HD 1080i

    Sorry, my telescope only does 720p.

    I'll have enough saved to upgrade in a month or two, though.

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  4. Re:mass? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The current IAU definition is (c/o Wikipedia)

    The IAU therefore resolves that planets and other bodies in our Solar System, except satellites, be defined into three distinct categories in the following way:
    (1) A "planet"[1] is a celestial body that: (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape, and (c) has cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit.
    (2) A "dwarf planet" is a celestial body that: (a) is in orbit around the Sun, (b) has sufficient mass for its self-gravity to overcome rigid body forces so that it assumes a hydrostatic equilibrium (nearly round) shape[2], (c) has not cleared the neighbourhood around its orbit, and (d) is not a satellite.
    (3) All other objects[3], except satellites, orbiting the Sun shall be referred to collectively as "Small Solar System Bodies".
    Footnotes:
    1 The eight planets are: Mercury, Venus, Earth, Mars, Jupiter, Saturn, Uranus, and Neptune.
    2 An IAU process will be established to assign borderline objects into either "dwarf planet" and other categories.
    3 These currently include most of the Solar System asteroids, most Trans-Neptunian Objects (TNOs), comets, and other small bodies.
    The IAU further resolves:
    Pluto is a "dwarf planet" by the above definition and is recognised as the prototype of a new category of trans-Neptunian objects.

    Pluto fails because it hasn't cleared its orbit.

    Many people don't like the definition for many reasons. Among them, that what constitutes a "clear" orbit is not specified and is arbitrary (no planet has an orbit 100% free of other objects), that the point of 'hydrostatic equilibrium' is also unspecified and arbitrary, and that it only applies to the Solar System ("The Sun" is in there).

  5. Re:HD 10180 Nearby? by Grayhand · · Score: 4, Interesting

    When did 130 ly become nearby? Did someone invent a FTL drive while I wasn't paying attention?

    Light coming from it is only a 130 years old not millions or billions of years old. I think the general unspoken idea of nearby is that they may still have the same technology if there were intelligent life that they did a 130 years ago so there's the potential for contact if a civilization was detected. There is a likely window of a few hundred years to a few thousand years where contact would be possible. There is no set standard for nearby but I think that would be the closest I could come, any star with the potential for contact. 130 light years is definitely in that range and with multiple large planets it'd be a solid candidate for life.

  6. Re:mass? by ColdWetDog · · Score: 4, Funny

    Not really; as far as we can tell Pluto is roughly spherical, and has sufficient mass to reach hydrostatic equilibrium.

    So are my neighbors. In addition they've cleared a debris field that encompasses 'the neighborhood' (McDonald's, KFC, Wendy's and both grocery stores).

    Should i report them to the IAU?

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  7. Re:HD 10180 Nearby? by Chris+Burke · · Score: 4, Insightful

    When did 130 ly become nearby?

    As soon as the context became the stars.

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  8. Re:HD 10180 Nearby? by rachit · · Score: 4, Informative

    I don't think any object that no human being can visit in their lifetime without defying the laws of physics can be truly said to be "nearby".

    You *can* visit it in your lifetime without violating the laws of physics, its just that you cannot visit it in the lifetime of the people observing you from Earth.