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IBM Patent: Smart Floors Detect Heart Attacks, Intruders

An anonymous reader writes "An IBM patent issued in March describes multitouch floors that detect who is in the home and what they're doing – perfect for detecting intruders and falls, notes MSNBC. CEPro.com suggests the technology also could be used to replace cameras and sensor arrays typically required for gesture control, and could detect staggering teens and 'unregistered' boyfriends. The floors could have 'tremendous implications for home health technology.'"

80 comments

  1. Prior art surely? by slacker22 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Michael Jackson - Billie jean.

    1. Re:Prior art surely? by davester666 · · Score: 1

      Great, it's your turn to get up. Jimmy's masturbating in his bedroom again.

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    2. Re:Prior art surely? by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Prior art - Japanese castles and mansions would have what I believe were called "canary floors". They were deliberately designed to squeak loudly as an anti-intruder measure. They were installed in critical areas to make it difficult for assassins to sneak around the mansion or castle at night.

    3. Re:Prior art surely? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      "Nightingale floors", they were called, but otherwise you're spot-on.

    4. Re:Prior art surely? by Ihmhi · · Score: 1

      Damn it, I knew it was a bird. I just got the wrong one. -.- Thanks.

  2. Unregistered boyfriends by black6host · · Score: 3, Funny

    The floors could have 'tremendous implications for home health technology.'"

    Yep, only let registered, pre-approved and guaranteed condom carrying boyfriends into the house. Help prevented that health hazard called pregnancy :)

    1. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 5, Funny

      As the father of a girl, I would approve the electrocution of any man in my house that's not me or my son.

      And really, my son is optional.

      And no, I didn't forget to include my dad on the list.

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    2. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Smart girls would roll they unregistered boyfriends in on any thing that had wheels. No need to step on the floor.

    3. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Thanks for the warning. We'll just park tonight.

    4. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by Impy+the+Impiuos+Imp · · Score: 1

      Sir, we're getting a signal that's tripping our algorithms' alarms.

      What is it? Is it a stumbling drunk teen?

      No, sir.

      Is it a fallen person twitching from a heart attack?

      No, sir.

      Well, what the hell is it?

      Sir, it looks to be a chair in that there are four spots, but it's twitching violently, but unlike a heart attack, it's incredibly regular, about 3 jerks a second. Oh, wait. It stopped. Now they're getting up and walking to the bathroom. Their phone just activated and they're ordering pizza.

      I guess it was a false alarm. 352nd time on this campus tonight.

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    5. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by DarwinSurvivor · · Score: 1

      And what, praytell, would those wheels be sitting on?

    6. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by davester666 · · Score: 1

      As another human that is part of the so-called 'civilized' world, I question your desire to be at home, and alone, with your daughter.

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    7. Re:Unregistered boyfriends by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      As another human that is part of the so-called 'civilized' world, I question your desire to be at home, and alone, with your daughter.

      Ignoring the possible existence of a wife or defacto...

      I think that statement says more about you then him. "Think of the children", clearly you are thinking of them inappropriately.

  3. What do you have to hide from your floor? by jeffb+(2.718) · · Score: 3, Interesting

    "But everything they said was surely tattled back to the overness, if only by the dust at their feet."

    </shudder>

    1. Re:What do you have to hide from your floor? by Flere+Imsaho · · Score: 0

      Damn it, a great Vinge quote and here's me with no mod points :-(

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    2. Re:What do you have to hide from your floor? by TemplePilot · · Score: 1

      LoL I feelz Ur Pain!

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  4. Tin Foil Hat Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    I'm first on the tin-foil hat party wagon: What's to stop them from tracking my every movement with this? What's to stop an advertiser from tracking my movement to try to sell me softer toilet paper while I poo?

    1. Re:Tin Foil Hat Time by ExploHD · · Score: 1

      No tin-foil hats for this one, you just have to get extremely great at playing lava on the floor

    2. Re:Tin Foil Hat Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      surely the tinfoil manufacturers are interested in this demographic

    3. Re:Tin Foil Hat Time by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      What's to stop an advertiser from tracking my movement to try to sell me softer toilet paper while I poo?

      Why hasn't this been thought of yet? 'Smart Thrones' which do chemical analysis of your 'output' to suggest food items that might interest you and balance your body chemistry. In addition, it could measure toilet paper usage and suggest firmer/softer lines based on time needed and amount of blood added during that period.

      It could even recognize and analyze vomit to see if it should advertise antacid, hangover remedies, or go straight ahead and call 911!

    4. Re:Tin Foil Hat Time by rev0lt · · Score: 1

      If you read some kind of print media while you poo (a magazine, a newspaper, the toilet paper itself), you are already being targeted by advertisers. How is this different?

    5. Re:Tin Foil Hat Time by swilde23 · · Score: 1

      As are Pepsi (mtn dew), Frito Lay (cheetos... wait, arent they Pepsi as well?) and Wizards of the Coast (somehow this has to be pepsi too....)

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  5. In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry... by dryriver · · Score: 1, Interesting

    In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry, Smart Floor Stand on YOU! But seriously, this stupid patent actually mentions "detecting your teens throwning a party while you are away, if the floor detects there are more than six people in the house". Is this really a problem that needs a technological solution? And how much does it cost to have 400 sq meters of "smart floor" installed in your house to begin with? 50K or so?

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    1. Re:In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry... by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 2

      No, no, no. In Soviet Russia, YOU spy on floor!

    2. Re:In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry... by dryriver · · Score: 1

      No, no, no. In Soviet Russia, floor stands/spies on YOU. I insist that it be this way! =) Really... I do... Um, okay, actually no... Soviet Flooring tells me it has to be this way... Otherwise Soviet Flooring drop away, and become trapdoor I fall through...

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    3. Re:In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry... by spire3661 · · Score: 1

      The point is, hardware is so cheap now, they are going ot put it in EVERYTHING. I really hate that this can be patented. Its an OBVIOUS benefit of having sensored floors. The rest is data collection and analysis, nothing truly new or novel. I really hate that all the myriad shit that we all envisioned when we were kids is now being patented because its cost viable now. Most that dwell on this site saw the great hardware deluge coming decades ago.

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    4. Re:In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry... by roc97007 · · Score: 1

      Wait until it's required...

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    5. Re:In IBM/Soviet Floor Industry... by vlm · · Score: 1

      If there is a silver lining, the people that currently can't figure out how to install subfloor hydronic heating without causing a flood, are never going to correctly install this dystopian stuff. You'll get a few folks installing it to show off how well they can spend money, on the assumption that spending money means they're rich as opposed to the more likely serial home equity refinancers or credit card max-outers, but it won't actually work.

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  6. Oh, great a floor...like a mother in law by rullywowr · · Score: 1

    Great, a floor that tells me I eat too much and need to lose weight. Its kind of like a mother in law but you can't typically stand on top of your mother in law 24/7.

    1. Re:Oh, great a floor...like a mother in law by ExploHD · · Score: 5, Funny

      but you can't typically stand on top of your mother in law 24/7.

      Challenge accepted

    2. Re:Oh, great a floor...like a mother in law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Dude
      Seriously
      So gross

    3. Re:Oh, great a floor...like a mother in law by nurb432 · · Score: 0

      No, it will tell your insurance company that you eat too much, so they can put you in a higher risk/more costly coverage group.

      Oh, and that you aren't exercising as required will be more points against you.

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    4. Re:Oh, great a floor...like a mother in law by MiniMike · · Score: 1

      ... but you can't typically stand on top of your mother in law 24/7.

      At least I can wash the floor when it smells funny...

    5. Re:Oh, great a floor...like a mother in law by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Stand on her? I'd fuck mine doggystyle then jizz in her ass.

  7. In Soviet Russia by dryriver · · Score: 1

    In Soviet Russia, your mother-in-law stand on YOU!

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  8. "could detect staggering teens" by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    ...Or sponsor a renewed interest in free climbing.

    ("Buildering"? Drunk Buildering? Could be big!)

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  9. Anti-smart shoes? by roc97007 · · Score: 1

    How long before we see the first advertisement for special shoes to shield us from smart floors?

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    1. Re:Anti-smart shoes? by vlm · · Score: 2

      How long before we see the first advertisement for special shoes to shield us from smart floors?

      Surely you've seen the classic movie "Animal House"? "unregistered boyfriends" merely need ride their motorcycle up the stairs. What could possibly go wrong?

      Lately whenever young men are in the news its traditional to put in a hoodie comment so I'm surprised the article didn't put some lame trendy crap about detecting if a young man walking on the floor is wearing a hoodie or not. Its illogically pointless, therefore required.

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    2. Re:Anti-smart shoes? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      The book Little Brother had the solution: put rocks in your shoes. Your awkward walking will likely confuse the floor.

  10. Patent by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Can someone who knows anything about patents please explain to me how this patent can be granted? Where is the invention? We already have floors and we already have multitouch. Have they patented some new multitouch technology that can cover huge spaces? If so, I can't find that explained in the patent text.
    I find a lot of references to north and south bridges, DMI, LPC and PCI buses, etc. Complete and utter rubbish. The US patent system is laughable. Yet another reason not to give a shit about anything IP (copyright, patents, etc) related. I'll download, pirate, resell whatever I want until the system is fixed. Thank you very much.

    1. Re:Patent by dryriver · · Score: 1

      In theory, patents are designed to protect "genuinely new and useful inventions" from being copied/manufactured instantly by just anyone. This is intended to reward the inventor for doing "the hard work of inventing". In practice, big companies will file for a patent for virtually anything, and anything at all, that they can think of. Sometimes this doesn't work, because the "device" or "method" supposedly being invented is something ludicrously obvious. But in many cases, patents are simply handed out on a "first applicant gets the patent" basis. If you are the first to file the patent, you are the party that will receive the patent. Even if it is something bloody obvious. Like a pressure-sensitive floor (I've seen this done, experimentally, over a decade ago).

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    2. Re:Patent by anubi · · Score: 1

      I have had pressure-sensitive floor pads for years. You place them under the carpet. Inside them are strips of spring steel which contact each other under pressure.

      They are very 60's , commonly used by shopkeepers to alert them when a customer entered. I got a few to alert me when someone was messing around my house. This was many years ago. The devices have long been replaced with other technologies.

      So, would this be prior art?

      ( And I want to replace the whole shebang again... this time with HB100 modules. ).

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  11. detect, hurt and attack by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Really smart floor would detect, hurt and attack intruders.

    1. Re:detect, hurt and attack by Y2KDragon · · Score: 1

      Activate the steel plates blocking all exits, then releasing the trained attack hounds? Perhaps after, it can also deploy the cleaning robots.

  12. But... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    So this floor is going to detect a person of unexpected weight in my house and set off an alarm. Sounds like I'd better not carry any bags, then.

    Maybe if I come home on crutches, it'll think the cat's put on weight.

  13. WTF is wrong with the patent office? by Assmasher · · Score: 2, Insightful

    There have been floor based pressure sensor for more than a decade that do these things and they're not from IBM. The earliest uses I am aware of were for security and access control purposes (to detect when someone walked in behind someone else that had an access card.

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    1. Re:WTF is wrong with the patent office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Try reading the patent before you make uneducated comments.

    2. Re:WTF is wrong with the patent office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes, I've read it. All invalidated by prior art. Behavioral analysis on footsteps used a kernel based classification system that was trained to identify walking patterns. It also detected 'object left behind' behaviors - in other words, shape recognition was a part of the system.

    3. Re:WTF is wrong with the patent office? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yeah, this tech was tested in Scandinavian care homes for the elderly like decades ago.
      USPTO= U Shall Pay To Organised crime.
       

  14. Hell yes by TheSpoom · · Score: 3, Funny

    This should lead to some very interesting Batman-like robberies.

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    1. Re:Hell yes by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      This should lead to some very interesting Batman-like robberies.

      Not really worried about this.

      Aside from computer crime, criminals have been getting stupider by the day. The chances of anybody hanging off the ceiling to steal your flatscreen is pretty slim.

  15. Tremendous implications for health.. by nurb432 · · Score: 0

    More like our privacy..

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    1. Re:Tremendous implications for health.. by dryriver · · Score: 1

      If you are someone who has a vested interest in making people's lives as "transparent" as possible, putting as many "human-detecting" devices in people's homes as possible is precisely what you'd do. If this "smart floor" is cheap enough, you'll probably find it included, at some point, in many newly built houses. The only way you could truly "opt out" of that smart flooring would be to either have the entire flooring ripped out and replaced with passive flooring, or to cut off the electricity supply of the smart flooring (What if they can transmit electricity to it "wirelessly" however? Tesla thought/proved this was possible, no?)

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  16. dining room table by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Probably doesn't need these sensors under it detecting unusual activity

  17. id like a floor by nimbius · · Score: 2

    intelligent enough to txt me at work, if only to say, "your cat has oncemore lost traction on the waxed hallway floor, and smashed head on into the book case as usual with predictably hillarious results."

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    1. Re:id like a floor by popoutman · · Score: 1

      Only if it triggers the video camera and informs you it is ready for review and upload..

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    2. Re:id like a floor by Y2KDragon · · Score: 1

      THIS! ^^^

    3. Re:id like a floor by TheSpoom · · Score: 1

      I'm pretty sure automated funny cat video production is a sign of the apocalypse.

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  18. Stinky Farts? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    And who produced them?

  19. Yet another entry in the "Do not want!" column by kheldan · · Score: 0

    Who are they kidding? This is just another technology that would be used to monitor and spy on people in their homes.

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  20. In Soviet Russia by Roachie · · Score: 1

    We dont have floor!

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  21. Our Rich Language! by Roachie · · Score: 2

    'tremendous implications for home health technology.'"

    Huh, 'home health' must mean no-knock search/arrest warrant.

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  22. Will monitor who's at work and who's not by gelfling · · Score: 2

    This IS IBM after all, building a smarter world, smarter than the slaves who keep it running at any rate.

  23. *Thud* by billybob_jcv · · Score: 1

    "Excuse me sir or madam, have you fallen and can't get up?"

  24. Prior art by PPH · · Score: 1
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  25. Expensive by Hentes · · Score: 1

    While there could be interesting applications of this, covering your floor with touch sensors is far too expensive to be practical.

  26. What happens by swilde23 · · Score: 1

    when you spill your drink all over it? In my experience, fancy-dancy electronics and liquids don't mi RCODE: 1001-02 Client disconnected from the connection.

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  27. Identify by weight? by jklovanc · · Score: 1

    Here are a few heavy items I sometimes carry and or wear;
      20 pound biker jacket
      40 pound chainmaille shirt
      20 pound chainmaille kilt
      backpack
      boxes full of chainmaille
      heavy suicases.

    By wearing/carrying the above items in different combination my weight can vary by a hundred pounds.

  28. Dog by mbstone · · Score: 1

    How is this better than a dog? My dog 1) is 100% effective at detecting intruders; and 2) if I were to fall, he would come and lick me in the face.

    1. Re:Dog by mcgrew · · Score: 1

      How is this better than a dog?

      It won't chew up your slippers and you don't have to take it for a walk. You don't have to take it outside to piss when it's raining. And it doesn't eat much. And it doesn't keep your neighbors up all night with its goddamned barking.

  29. but but but by slashmydots · · Score: 1

    But...how would it detect Dance Dance Revolution? My guess would be as an intruder having a heart attack.

  30. Similar systems already exist by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    For example Elsi ElderlyCare (http://www.elsitechnologies.com/en.php?k=16419) is a product tested in Finnish nursing homes, that detects falling patients.

  31. And when it is given the ability to speak? by RivenAleem · · Score: 1

    "You know RivenAleem, you could afford to lose a few pounds"

  32. Not the real reason by ThatsNotPudding · · Score: 1

    The real lucrative market is of course home-confinement monitoring - a refinement of the ankle bracelet.

    IBM still does cool things, but just like certain Holerith cards, they don't seem too troubled about how the tech is used after the sale.

  33. Gives A Whole New Meaning To The Term by sfhock · · Score: 1

    being Floored...

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  34. If.... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    If I ever bought a home with this installed the cables would all, miraculously, be gnawed through by rodents. Same as how if I ever bought a car with OnSTAR, the GPS/Mobile cables would be mysteriously severed.