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University of Pittsburgh Deluged With Internet Bomb Threats

An anonymous reader writes "The University of Pittsburgh has been plagued with 78 bomb threats (and counting) since February 14. It started low-tech, with handwritten notes, but has progressed to anonymous emails. Nearly every campus building has been a target. The program suspected is anonymous mailer Mixmaster. The university has been evacuating each building when threats come in (day or night), and police departments from around Allegheny County have offered assistance with clearing each building floor by floor with bomb sniffing dogs. There is a popular tracking blog set up by a student as well as a growing Reddit community. Is there any foreseeable defense (forensic or socially engineered) to a situation like this?"

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  1. Defense by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Defense=stop taking every bomb threat as a credible threat.

    1. Re:Defense by Bitsy+Boffin · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And how do you know which ones ARE credible?

      Who is to say this isn't a program of desensitisation, imagine the headlines "Bomb threat ignored, 300 dead"

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    2. Re:Defense by NoobixCube · · Score: 4, Insightful

      And who do you blame when the one you didn't take seriously is real? The Boy who Cried Wolf has two morals, you know. One for the child, to not make frivolous cries for help because someone may not come when you really need them to, and one for the adult, to treat every threat as credible, because this one could be it.

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    3. Re:Defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Easy formula: No bomb threats are credible. Actual bombings are in the vast majority of cases not preceded by threats. You might as well evacuate a building every time a squirrel shits on the lawn, because the correlation between that event and an actual bombing is about as strong as it is between bombings and bomb threats.

    4. Re:Defense by Sperbels · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Desensitization to what? Why would a real bomber warn anyone? I'm wondering... in the whole country, how many bomb threats actually turned out to be real? Have there even been any real ones? At some point we just have to say this is ridiculous and ignore them.

    5. Re:Defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Stop and use your head. Consider the result, if just once, they don't evacuate and something horrible happens.

      Now you understand the problem.

    6. Re:Defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This "desensitization" theory is something I keep hearing, and it's absolutely silly. Ridiculous.

      You're saying that someone who wants to maximize impact by catching people off-guard would:

      1. Sensitize people to a potential threat
      2. Work for a long time to then re-desensitize them to said threat
      3. Act.

      It seems the net result would be exactly the same if one skipped straight to step 3 without making any threats in the first place.

    7. Re:Defense by geekoid · · Score: 2, Insightful

      People spend too much time watching movies.

      Bombers don't warn people.

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    8. Re:Defense by Spudley · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why would a real bomber warn anyone?

      Many terrorist groups routinely send bomb warnings when they have planted a bomb. During the troubles in Northern Ireland, the practice was so common that the IRA and the police had recognised code words they could use so that the police would know it was a real bomb rather than a hoax call.

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    9. Re:Defense by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 2

      Unless the bomber's target is the law enforcement officers who will be investigating the bomb threat.

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    10. Re:Defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I believe he is right. If someone wants to bomb, they will not warn you, they will just do it. Evacuating on a bomb threat is different than evacuating on a bomb tip. If someone tips that there is a bomb, or that they saw something suspicious, they will usually come forward with their name, you'll be able to track them. An anonymous bomb threat is just that, it means nothing. It's as real as the end of the world scenario, and I better hope that you don't let those control your life.

    11. Re:Defense by alphatel · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Bomb threats are a federal crime. Remailers aren't open proxies, they are servers designed to provide reasonably anonymous mailflow from a source to a destination and they are operated by generally very law-abiding individuals. The US federal gov't can easily step in, ask remailers to either reveal the sender, log the connections or deny. Ultimately no matter how crafty you are, if you hit a remailer with logging, you will get nabbed no matter how many you walk through on your way to breaking the law. You can get away with this once or twice and if you never do it again it's highly unlikely you will ever be found. But 78 times?
      Someone is going to get nabbed and sadly, it might not be the person who started the chain.

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    12. Re:Defense by Ihmhi · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Stop and use your head. Consider the result, if just once, they don't evacuate and something horrible happens.

      Now you understand the problem.

      Okay. Someone is talented enough to make a pipe bomb, but not something to destroy an entire building.

      So, they make a whole bunch of them and bury them in the grass on the quad where everyone assembles in an evacuation.

      Then, after everyone evacuates and follows the rules...

    13. Re:Defense by cvtan · · Score: 2

      It's not the squirrels. It's the bunnies! http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Devilbunnies

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    14. Re:Defense by Eponymous+Hero · · Score: 3, Funny

      at one of my junior high school's semi-annual bomb threats (at least twice a year), the dogs went crazy over a locker in the boys' locker room. turned out to be rotting gym clothes. so you see, some good does come of fake bomb threats. and the kid assigned to that locker never lived it down.

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    15. Re:Defense by icebraining · · Score: 2

      Same with ETA in Spain, IIRC. Sometimes they warn newspapers, probably to increase visibility.

    16. Re:Defense by NeverSuchBefore · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Consider this: sometimes there are casualties. That's a fact of life. If something is highly unlikely, then it can probably be safely ignored.

    17. Re:Defense by icebraining · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Why don't you blame the perpetrator? The person who planted the bomb?

      Despite common beliefs, it is actually possible to blame more than one person for the same event.

    18. Re:Defense by NeverSuchBefore · · Score: 2

      Yeah, but it gets kind of ridiculous when you're blaming people who don't react to every lie in an utmost serious manner. I could get into a car accident or the plane I'm riding on could be blown up by terrorists. It's unlikely, but it could happen. I'm still going to ride cars and planes.

      The problem, I think, is that some people have this "no casualties are acceptable" mentality. Now, this would be fine if their solutions didn't waste time, money, or violate people's rights, but they do. "How likely is it?" should be the question on people's minds..

    19. Re:Defense by hrvatska · · Score: 4, Informative

      Easy formula: No bomb threats are credible. Actual bombings are in the vast majority of cases not preceded by threats. You might as well evacuate a building every time a squirrel shits on the lawn, because the correlation between that event and an actual bombing is about as strong as it is between bombings and bomb threats.

      I have no idea what the ratio of warnings of bombings to actual bombings is, but there are certainly examples of groups that issued warnings before they bombed. The US group the Weather Underground did.

      The bombing attacks mostly targeted government buildings, along with several banks. Most were preceded by evacuation warnings, along with communiqués identifying the particular matter that the attack was intended to protest. For the bombing of the United States Capitol on March 1, 1971, they issued a communiqué saying it was "in protest of the U.S. invasion of Laos." For the bombing of the Pentagon on May 19, 1972, they stated it was "in retaliation for the U.S. bombing raid in Hanoi." For the January 29, 1975 bombing of the United States Department of State building, they stated it was "in response to escalation in Vietnam."

      The IRA frequently sent warnings before it bombed.

      The bombing of the King David hotel in Jerusalem on July 29, 1946, was allegedly preceded by warnings. Menachem Begin claimed that three warnings were sent out on July 22nd 1946 about the planned attack to keep casualties to the minimum. Warnings were sent by telephone, including one to the hotel's own switchboard, which the hotel staff decided to ignore, but none directly to the British authorities. A possible reason why the warning was ignored was that hoax bomb warnings were rife at the time. The British did not evacuate the hotel and the bombing killed 91 people and injured 45. Imagine the repercussions for the University of Pittsburgh if it ignored a bomb warning and 91 people died and 45 were injured.

    20. Re:Defense by dj_super_dude · · Score: 2, Informative

      I agree, they have to treat every threat as a possible real danger.

      I'll admit that the likelyhood of there being more than one person sending in the threats is at least moderate - copycats who thought it was a laugh at the beginning, but I'd say now after 70+ there is also most likely a large percentage of those threats that came from one individual.

      Now to go a bit 'criminal minds'-ish on you, but if you'll indulge, many cases of criminal behaviour which lead to rather random events (bombings, spree shootings, serial killings) and others that are more common will have an individual who will send bizarre and often non-sensical warnings beforehand:

      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Timothy_McVeigh#Plan_against_federal_building_or_individuals
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Unabomber#Manifesto
      http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Son_of_sam#Letters_and_profiling

      Just a few examples. So perhaps it's possible we have an individual here who has a grudge or some twisted mission. They begin to send letters, hoping for action, attention. Suddenly things are happening, people are being evacuated, the media is listening, even another man (ex-professor) was arrested for sending threatening emails. What if there is a next stage in their plan?

      I honestly hope there isn't and it's just some fool who has let a prank get way out of hand, but I don't think they should ignore any threats because the results could be devastating.

    21. Re:Defense by Smallpond · · Score: 5, Informative

      I believe he is right. If someone wants to bomb, they will not warn you, they will just do it.

      Wrong. The IRA routinely planted actual bombs AND reported them, because it caused just as much fear and disruption and didn't turn as many people away from them.

    22. Re:Defense by pinfall · · Score: 5, Insightful

      True, if you get supercrafty its going to be hard to track you. But if you are supercrafty 250 times, you are going to leave the unmistakeable trail of your own demise. Its just fine if you want to play with your exgf, but the feds got money, power, and nasty fking claws.

    23. Re:Defense by Phat_Tony · · Score: 5, Insightful

      There's another option here. Think, what if you were a bomber who wanted to maximize the terror you could cause? How about get a good voice scrambler and an anonymous email account and then call and email in bomb threats through several layers of proxies, TOR, etc. They evacuate buildings, cause fear, lots of inconvenience. Keep sending the threats, just keep doing it over and over, more frequently, relentlessly, until they end up with no choice but to ignore you, after incalculable time and expense on the fake threats. Maybe for fear of liability for NOT evacuating for threats, they will go to extremes, but just keep sending them until they're disrupting half the class schedule if they have to... make them cancel major sporting events, whatever it takes to make your threats impossible NOT to ignore. THEN, once they're ignoring you, you actually blow some people up exactly when and where you called in a threat.

      Then start up with the threats again, and now what do they do?

      The idea that a real bomber won't call in the threat to maximize impact isn't valid, because this scenario involves calling in the threat, and maximizes fear over a random non-reported explosion.

      For very few actual bombs, you will cause much more fear and inconvenience this way.

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    24. Re:Defense by NeverSuchBefore · · Score: 2

      Dude, you're only saying this shit because it's not your ass on the line.

      Why I'm saying it is irrelevant to whether or not I'm correct.

      If they ignore the threat even once and someone gets so much as a third degree burn from a firecracker that goes off then someone's going to eat a big shit sandwich over a criminal negligence suit.

      You seem to be putting words into my mouth. Not once did I say that they wouldn't get in trouble. I was arguing against the mentality that it's wrong not to respond to every threat.

      common sense

      Means nothing, and varies from person to person. It might be "common sense" that the world is flat. The fact that you claim something is "common sense" doesn't make it common, obvious, or correct.

      I'm finding more and more fucktards like you daily

      That's interesting, because some support the TSA because they think we need to be protected from highly unlikely threats at the cost of some of our rights and immense amounts of money (putting aside the fact that we have other protections against said threats).

      and it's unbelievable how often you fucks try to pass the buck when you're fucked up attitudes cause damage.

      It's not them that causes the damage. It's simply unrealistic to expect there to never be casualties. I said it before: I will not live in fear or advocate that people waste time, money, and resources trying to prevent something that has a minuscule chance of happening.

      "How likely is it that they'll carry out the threat? How many resources would it waste for us to act? How many people would it kill? Does our proposed solution violate anyone's rights?"

      Why are these not good questions to ask? It's possible that aliens might swoop down, invade a city, and kill everyone, but that doesn't mean we should act upon that. Why? To our knowledge, it's highly unlikely and would consume lots of time, resources, and money, and that's exactly what I mean.

    25. Re:Defense by Altrag · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Absolutely not. Surprisingly enough, most people aren't all that excited about murdering dozens or hundreds of innocents. Some will do so with enough provocation, and you get the odd psychopath who really is hell-bent on killing, but for the most part the idea of a "terrorist" is to spread "terror", not outright kill people. Killing people spreads terror to be sure, but there are other ways to do so that don't involve destroying your own soul (or not so much of it, at least.)

      With your 3-step program, the goal step is actually step 2 -- a drawn out period of time when your target is afraid of you without you having to do much to incite the fear. Only after you've dragged out step 2 as long as you can possibly manage are you forced to move on to step 3 and reset the cycle.

      The entire world, primarily the US, are mired somewhere in the middle of step 2 still after 9/11. There's no reason for terrorist cells to risk attacking the US again until Homeland Security finally runs out of new ways to disrupt American life. The terrorists can just sit back and laugh as internally you all work yourselves into a paranoid frenzy, and externally you run around starting wars with random nations whose primarily link to terrorism is a shared religious background.

    26. Re:Defense by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Insightful

      One amateur bomb in a field full of people can kill a LOT more people that a bomb of similar effort in a building. You wouldn't have to bury it either. Just walk through the crowd and drop a duffel bag in the middle.

    27. Re:Defense by Z34107 · · Score: 2

      So, they make a whole bunch of them and bury them in the grass on the quad where everyone assembles in an evacuation.

      I remember, back in high school, the district deciding on a new set of emergency procedures, to be rolled out post haste. For our safety and edification, a bored teacher was reading them to us, along with every other class first hour.

      After a few pages, he got to "bomb threat," stopped, and said, "Well, that's stupid. If I were going to plant a bomb, it'd be where everyone evacuates." Not exactly villain-from-Speed levels of evil, but still kind of shocking to hear it coming from a teacher.

      So, I think you, I, and at least one other person are of like minds--if anyone calls in a bomb threat, the last thing I'm doing is packing in close with everyone else. The horror, though, if anyone ever calls in a tornado threat.

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    28. Re:Defense by TubeSteak · · Score: 2

      That's because the IRA was waging a public relations battle on their home soil alongside their actual battle for independence.

      The type of people who would bomb the usa are either anti-government and don't give a flip about PR
      OR they're not on their *home soil and the PR dynamic is entirely different

      *for various definitions of "home"

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    29. Re:Defense by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      If the years of news about Anonymous has taught us one thing, it's that you always get caught for the really ugly stuff, eventually. It doesn't matter how clever you are. Hell, Ted Kaczynski was a bona fide genius, with no connectivity, no discernible error trails, living out in the damn woods without any real human contact. They got him too (tip from family based on verbiage of his manifesto, iirc).

      Feds might not have a magic button to find you with, but they'll stay at it until they do. They've got huge budgets, legal clout everywhere, and all the time in the world to work it out.

      It's just a matter of time.

    30. Re:Defense by Arrepiadd · · Score: 4, Informative

      And so did ETA in Spain. In fact, when after the bombings in Madrid people started pointing fingers at ETA, one of the first things that was offered as a rebuttal was their track record at informing of previous bombings.

    31. Re:Defense by BeardedChimp · · Score: 5, Informative

      While my Mum was still at school in Belfast, they were getting daily/weekly bomb threats for a quite a while. The headmaster then declared that any time lost due to bomb scares would be made up at the end of term over summer. The bomb threats stopped immediately...

    32. Re:Defense by Tom · · Score: 4, Informative

      The US federal gov't can easily step in, ask remailers to either reveal the sender, log the connections or deny.

      You obviously don't know anything about remailers. I operated one for a few years, so allow me to say what should've been blatantly obvious:

      The operator can not identify the sender. Mixmaster is a type II remailer. Those are specifically designed to make such attacks unfeasable, and continue to operate and provide anonymity even in the event that one or several remailers in the chain have been subverted.

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    33. Re:Defense by RivenAleem · · Score: 3, Interesting

      The IRA frequently sent warnings before it bombed.

      The IRA had a rapport with the media and the Gardaí. They had a codeword to confirm the bomb threat was legit. That doesn't mean that other bomb threats were ignored, but just that the IRA never gave fake threats, and almost always gave time to evacuate. The IRA was always very disciplined and often adhered to ceasefires and supported the political process. This is evidenced by the fact that they stopped when they felt that it was no longer necessary to continue their campaign.

      A lot of people would have said that the IRA were just thugs getting revenge for the Black & Tans, or other injustices perpetrated by the British, but they were very well organised and lead and were achieving a specific goal. They were the stick to Sinn Féin's carrot. The 'political wing' of the IRA were always pushing for a peaceful solution to the NI crisis, but were often not heeded, or not taken seriously.

      I think that while some of the things they have done are unforgivable, they were definitely understandable, and never random. I think things in Ireland would be so much worse now if the IRA weren't a level headed as they were and if the political process that operated in tandem wasn't as effective and wanted as it was.

      The problem with the US's war on terror, is that:
      a) The terrorists are not taken seriously.
      When your 'defense' against terrorism is the TSA all but violating the general public, then you are not securing your people against terror attacks, and thus leave yourself open to the "Bomb in the crowd" attack.
      b) The US has little or no interest in a political solution, they are treating it like a war and chant "USA USA USA" when they kill a figurehead of the terror movement, instead of trying to resolve the differences and problems that invariably they themselves created, when they traded arms to the very people not committing these attacks.

      The UK saw the IRA as a very real and serious threat, and recognised Ireland bid for freedom as legitimate. The problem was and always will be the 6 counties that don't want to leave the UK. It has been seen that the UK is mature about it's sovereignty when it gave back Hong Kong as agreed, because that is what most people there wanted. I'm certain that if the 6 counties all wanted to leave the UK and merge with the republic, then it would happen. Personally, I think that ship has sailed.

      So, there's a fine line between simple terrorism, and pursuing a guerrilla war on your home soil. You plant a bomb, and inform the media and police force and then detonate (or not, the threat is often enough). Because what you really want to say is "We could, at any time, detonate one of these without warning" So a serious terror/guerrilla group will not send hoax calls, as that serves them nothing.

    34. Re:Defense by NeverSuchBefore · · Score: 2

      What is your risk/probability level you're comfortable with?

      When it's highly unlikely. I still drive cars and ride planes.

      But hey, it's only a few lives, right? Can't be that inconvenient if some kids die on my watch

      I like how you mention children as if that would change my response. "For the children!"

      If you want to cower in fear of every unlikely threat, go ahead, but you're probably not going to convince me to do the same. I heard there would be an alien invasion soon...

  2. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The IRA often called in ahead of time about bombs they had placed.

  3. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by HeckRuler · · Score: 2

    How many bombers have preempted their bombing with 78 false threats?
    I think you need to add a few more ".9" to your statistic there. And with enough there, no, it doesn't make it worth it. I'm ok with the risk of meteor impact as I walk outside. I could go live in a bunker and protect myself from that threat, or I could just accept that life isn't safe.
    And you don't have to simply ignore the threats. You can, oh I dunno, STOP EVACUATING each and every time. Call in the dogs, sweep the place with the people still there, and if it's a non-issue as usual, it's just the cost of a K9 unit working constantly.

  4. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by jfengel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Actually, some do. The IRA was famous for telling people where their bombs were going to be. Real bombs, too. It achieves an awful lot of terror with less blood on your hands: they know that the bomb could have gone off. As long as there's some blood on your hands, your opponents know that you're willing to do it. Most of the terror, far less mess.

    The goal of terrorism is to make people so upset that they give in to your demands. In this case, it may be simply to make people upset. It's working very well.

  5. Hindsight... by damn_registrars · · Score: 3, Funny

    Perhaps they shouldn't have set up the "submit an anonymous bomb threat" web site?

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  6. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by geekoid · · Score: 2

    And they identified themselves.
    The lesson? when the IRA calls about putting a bomb there, evacuate.

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  7. Re:It's hard to feel sympathetic... by DaveSchool · · Score: 2

    Jerry Sandusky worked for Penn State - this is the University of Pittsburgh.

  8. Not just Pitt by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 4, Informative

    Lots of universities in the Pittsburgh area are getting bomb threats. I know CCAC is getting a bunch of them, too. They're now checking everyone's bags when they go into the building.

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  9. Power Grab by MrQuacker · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Soon enough someone will catch on that they can really increase their law enforcement power/budget/detail/department, pass some laws, and maybe get rid of some civil rights because of this. If enough people get pissed off enough, they will happily trade some freedoms for making this all go away.

    I'm surprised the TSA hasn't jumped in on this, setting up checkpoints and searching people anywhere they want on campus. Its the perfect situation to lend credibility to their viper program.

  10. Re:Only if you want to ruin your administration by Overzeetop · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Virginia Tech found a domestic murder case in a dorm five years ago, police came, followed standard procedure. Four hours later 30 more students and the assailant were dead after a horrific shooting spree on the opposite side of campus. Nothing like it had ever happened before on any US campus, and probably had never happened anywhere in the US in historical memory. Two of the victims parents sued the school for not notifying the student body earlier to warn them that the domestic violence case they had contained earlier that morning would erupt into the worst school shooting in US history, and won.

    You want to know how to destroy a school - stop responding to any threats, credible or not. If a real bomb does go off, the school will never survive.

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  11. A solution.... by mark-t · · Score: 2

    Decentralize.

    Get rid of the campus, and operate entirely online. Students take their courses online, they get graded online, and because there is no central meeting place, there is no place that would make an effective bomb target, whether a warning is given or not.

  12. mutually exclusive goals. by Spudley · · Score: 2

    Is there any foreseeable defense (forensic or socially engineered) to a situation like this?

    Not if you also want an internet that maintains any kind of privacy.

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  13. when reached for comment by nimbius · · Score: 2

    the BOFH at the university of pittsburg shrugged and remarked, "check with that new CS PHD who just had to have his crontab restored on a saturday night. Its been filling up the outbound mail spool all damn day."

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  14. Trying to delay tests/exams by Boycott+BMG · · Score: 2

    At one university I went to, students who were not ready for their midterms did the fire alarm pull. At a different university, it was anonymous bomb threats via payphone. Anyone got any other delaying tactics at institutions they attended?

  15. Re:Only if you want to ruin your administration by Sperbels · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You want to know how to destroy a school - stop responding to any threats, credible or not. If a real bomb does go off, the school will never survive.

    The real threat seems to be the lawyers.

  16. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by horza · · Score: 4, Informative

    The IRA were as pissed as the police with false bomb threats as theirs would be taken less seriously, hence the IRA giving code words to go along with the threat so the police could verify it was from them.

    Phillip.

  17. Re:Only if you want to ruin your administration by stephanruby · · Score: 3, Informative

    Two of the victims parents sued the school for not notifying the student body earlier to warn them that the domestic violence case they had contained earlier that morning would erupt into the worst school shooting in US history, and won.

    No, that's a over-simplification of what happened. There were several issues.

    The campus police department didn't have the authority, nor the mechanism to directly issue an emergency alert to the student body telling them "to stay inside and lock their doors because a shooter was on the loose", so even when they knew what was happening, which took a very long while in itself, they still couldn't notify the entire school without going first through an outdated manual and a barrage of school officials that acted as the gatekeepers to that system.

  18. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by horza · · Score: 3, Informative

    You should try Google, it often can find interesting information. For example you could type in "ira code bomb". The search engine can also find information on many other subjects.

    Phillip.

  19. honestly... by buddyglass · · Score: 2

    This is terrorism done right. Except the threat frequency should be dialed down to the point where each one must be viewed as credible. And the program should be duplicated across hundreds of campuses across the United States. Not to mention other facilities besides universities. And, every once in a while, one of the threats should turn out to be genuine, just to keep people honest. Cheap and effective.

  20. Re:Which is why you don't respond to threats by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

    The early attacks on service personnel and politicians were often without warning or with inadequate warnings. The Eniskillen bomb was without warning, as far as I recall. The Deal Barracks bombing in 1989 had no warning (considered cowardly because the victims were cadets). The Brighton Hotel bombing was warned of (in intelligence channels) but no coded warning was sent.

    Attacks on civilian targets sometimes did (late 80s and 90s attacks generally did): The Warrington campaign (1993) did have warnings but they weren't acted on in time and one was confusing. The St Mary Axe (Baltic Exchange) bomb was warned of but there were still civilian casualties, and the Bishopsgate bomb was warned of, and killed only a journalist who jumped the cordon.

    (The chronologies on Wikipedia are useful here).

    I don't remember if any of the other paramilitaries on either side of the conflict -- while the Provisionals were active -- had a habit of hoax threats; it never seemed to me to be a time when a bomb threat from a dissident source was taken as anything other than serious, and I had the luxury of being in mainland Britain. (But close enough to Deal, in a CCF-affiliated school, that every bomb threat took on added significance).

    The only notable example of an abused warning that I remember is Omagh; there the bomb warning was called in precisely to drive people into the path of the real device. But that was the Real IRA; a twisted spinoff of the Provisional IRA that sprang into existence after the first serious and credible peace agreement. (There may be other abused warnings, and certainly military targets received inadequate warnings).

  21. The real position by loneDreamer · · Score: 2

    Curious that the conversation centers in if the thread are real or not instead of how easily is to completely disrupt normal activities and cause incredible spending. Reminds me a lot of the statement by Al Queda that for every dolar they spend the US loses thousands. Makes me wonder how much of US economic activity (jobs/money) now resides with security and vigilance of all sorts.

  22. Will someone think of the children? by m3ntos · · Score: 2

    Why don't we let the students figure it out?