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Portugal Is Considering a "Terabyte Tax"

An anonymous reader writes "As a proposal to avoid becoming the 'next Greece', a Portuguese opposition party has proposed a tax on storage. The party claims that the tax will not effect the average citizen and is mostly levied at business users, but internal storage on mobile phones means a 64GB iPhone could be €32 more expensive. From the article: 'The proposal would have consumers paying an extra €0.2 per gigabyte in tax, almost €21 extra per terabyte of data on hard drives. Devices with storage capacities in excess of 1TB would pay an aggravated tax of 2.5 cents per GB. That means a 2TB device will in fact pile on €51.2 in taxes alone (2.5 cents times 2048GB). External drives or “multimedia drives” as the proposed bill calls them, in capacities greater than 1TB, can be taxed to the tune of 5 cents per gigabyte, so in theory, a 2TB drive would cost an additional €103.2 per unit (5 cents times 2048GB)."

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  1. Spain, Italy and Greece by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 5, Funny

    Before long, Spain will have its Gigabyte Tax

    Italy will chime in with its own Megabyte Tax

    And Greece? They'll have the honor of having the world's first Kilobyte Tax

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    1. Re:Spain, Italy and Greece by Lord_Breetai · · Score: 5, Funny

      Before long, Spain will have its Gigabyte Tax

      Italy will chime in with its own Megabyte Tax

      And Greece? They'll have the honor of having the world's first Kilobyte Tax

      I guess that leaves the byte tax for Ireland.

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    2. Re:Spain, Italy and Greece by Sam+Andreas · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The unreasonable part is that you're putting a tax on something that is ridiculously changeable. Right now 1 Terabyte seems a lot, so to pay an extra few euro for a hard drive seems ok.

      In 2002 the Canadian copyright lobby proposed a levy of 0.8 per megabyte on removable flash media and 2.1 per megabyte on non-removable storage in an audio player (in addition to the existing levy on blank audio tapes / cd's).

      That means that the 16GB SD card I bought recently for my camera would have cost not $10 but $141 and a 32GB media player would be an extra $688.

      Those sizes were unheard of in 2002 but only ten years later are commonplace. In another ten years, a gigabyte tax will probably be just as absurd.

    3. Re:Spain, Italy and Greece by mhajicek · · Score: 5, Funny

      Would data compression be considered tax evasion?

  2. Outdated by GothicKnight · · Score: 5, Insightful

    **OLD** This law draft was already discarted like 2 moths ago.

  3. This proposal was rejected. by Celexi · · Score: 5, Insightful

    As far i know ( i live in Portugal ) other than this being old news, it was rejected by all other parties other than the one attempting to get this passed and was rather laughed about because of it here.

    1. Re:This proposal was rejected. by Splab · · Score: 5, Funny

      Dude, seriously? What right do YOU have to come here and destroy the rants with facts? This article is the perfect fear and trolling opportunity and here you are, ruining it with facts.

      Shame! I said SHAME! on you!

  4. exponential by mechtech256 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A tax that increases at an exponential rate, what more could a government hope for!

  5. Old & Inaccurate by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It was not a proposal to avoid becoming 'the next Greece'. It was a proposal to "help" artists.
    In reality it was just another levy (we have several) to benefit some corrupt goons on a local "rights" association. And as you might guess it, they don't help artists that much. Just their pockets.

    It's old because the parliament shot it down after an active online campaign by internet activists and a couple of politicians with common sense.

  6. nitpicking: GB vs. GiB by moronoxyd · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That means a 2TB device will in fact pile on €51.2 in taxes alone (2.5 cents times 2048GB).

    Since when do manufacturers of hard drives use Base 2 to describe the size of their hard drives?
    They don't, so it should be 50 € (2.5 cent times 2000 GB).

  7. Re:Maths by bmo · · Score: 5, Funny

    It's Europe, so it will have to be a Metric Shitload, which is itself different from the Imperial Shitload, which is 1.125 American Shitloads

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  8. Re:Dear Portugal by plover · · Score: 5, Insightful

    No, a tax on idiotic laws. Every time someone proposes a law that will be nixed by the supreme/constitutional court because it violates other laws, tax the idiot who wasted valuable parliament time to get a moment in the limelight.

    Hell with that. I want a "three strikes and you're a despot" law. If you voted "Aye" to violate my constitutional rights with some stupid law, and the supreme court overturns that legislation, and you've done this three times, you are guilty of being a serial tyrant and should be sentenced to not less than 10 years in a federal prison. That applies to everyone who voted for the law, not just the guy who signs it (although it could certainly start with him, as he took an oath to defend the Constitution when he entered office.)

    No statute of limitations, either. You could be sleeping in your bed 10 years after leaving office, and if the Supreme Court overturns your 15-year-old crappy law, the ninjas bash down your door, haul you out of the arms of your mistress, and drag your butt to jail. None of these last minute help-my-buddy-in-the-industry-laws like pardons happening on the last days of office.

    Congressional sessions would be over pretty damn quick, don't you think? Some idiot puts up a law written by lobbyists for the industry, and every other person in congress would immediately say "Um, I vote NO, right now. Who wants to go get a drink with me?"

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  9. Re:Maths by bmo · · Score: 5, Funny

    Shit compression algorithms work only once, at the factory where it is forced into bags by magical and undocumented processes that happen at the quantum level. The factory is owned and operated by entities outside our Universe who have refused repeated inquiries about this process.

    Shit is incompressible once out of the bag. You can never put it back in, hence one definition of a blivet which is "10 pounds of shit in a 5 pound bag" equating to a 2:1 compression ratio at the factory.

    People have tried to put shit back in the bag once it has been let out. Einstein, and Bose thought they got close to a theoretical compression, which they called a Bose-Einstein-Shit condensate, but they failed to take into account dark energy, which is an opposing force that tends to spread shit everywhere.

    When Edwin Hubble discovered the expanding universe through red shifts, he exclaimed "Holy Shit!" and "What is this shit?" not knowing at the time that shit is the actual source of the dark energy speeding the expansion.

    Minkowski described "shit cones" describing the causality of shit.

    Stephen Hawking, in his famous paper proved through Feynman-Shit diagrams that black holes evaporate because they "lose their shit."

    At the macro level, sometimes this is also measured in worm cans. Worms eat shit, which is probably why they too are incompressible once out of the can.

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    BMO