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US Unhappy With Australians Storing Data On Australian Shores
Fluffeh writes "The United States' global trade representative has strongly criticized a perceived preference on the part of large Australian organizations for hosting their data on-shore in Australia, claiming it created a significant trade barrier for U.S. technology firms. A number of U.S. companies had expressed concerns that various departments in the Australian Government, namely the Department of Defence had been sending negative messages about cloud providers based outside the country, implying that 'hosting data overseas, including in the United States, by definition entails greater risk and unduly exposes consumers to their data being scrutinized by foreign governments.' Recently, Acting Victorian Privacy Commissioner Anthony Bendall highlighted some of the privacy concerns with cloud computing, particularly in its use by the local government. He said the main problems were the lack of control over stored data and privacy, in overseas cloud service providers."
The US believes in being fair. They need the Australian government & companies to store data on US servers so it can be fairly stolen by them not just China.
They're too lazy/incapable of getting the data themselves.
Why would this be a problem? The farther away their "cloud" is, the worse the performance. There's enough of a performance hit just trying to cram all that data through a company's entartube without stretching that tube many thousands of miles for no good reason.
Is that really them throwing their toys out of the pram?!
"How dare the Aussies deny us from intercepting data and shutting down sites by Australian companies and citizens"
My other Sig is very funny.
Whoever is in charge of Australia's defence department is an asshole and I happen to agree with him. WHY is it even close to being a good idea to send data out like that and especially in the US? Sorry, but I don't trust the US government.
I live in the US. With the recent mega upload fiasco and some of the other craziness, I think it's a smart move for foreigners to avoid hosting in the US.
US courts are trying to reach into other countries now. We've got way to much craziness here to trust us. The government should have known their actions will have consequences.
Would you store your beer collection in a country where it's legal to piss in it?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
Oh, God, you did not just use "solution" as a verb, did you? Really?
I hope not he/she doesn't get modded to -1.
Is there a cloud based company that will not take a peek at any of the information stored on it's servers? Does anyone really believe that? Most companies are looking for any advantage they can get. If they happen to 'see' something and patent it first it might be really hard for a small company or single person to prove that in court. Meanwhile said company could be raking in the cash on that idea/data.
I am in the US. I work with people who do a lot if research. Most of them like the cloud idea for storing their research information. They like it until they realize that the host of the cloud can read their data.
This is slashdot. We are not all tards and I will bet for the most part this forum agrees with the poster.
No sigs in BETA. Beta SUCKS.
Sorry, but under the US Patriot Act, the US government has granted themselves unlimited, and secret access to any and all data stored on a US server.
I've done some contract work for the Canadian Government, and it is illegal to store certain kinds of information on US based servers because it would potentially violate Canadian law. There are companies who have arms-length subsidiaries whose job it is to handle government data that could not be allowed to be stored in the US. This is no different than similar issues with US owned companies accessing EU data because of the Patriot Act.
The US can claim their companies are being hurt by this, but the fact of the matter is, the US is not a trustworthy place to store your data unless you are also going to accept them potentially spying on your citizens.
This isn't a trade issue. It's a trust issue.
So if America wants to keep their Patriot Act which tries to violate the laws of other countries, their businesses are going to lose out in those markets if it would mean those companies can't comply with local laws and the US law at the same time.
Sorry, but these aren't spurious claims -- they're well established issues which have been covered before.
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Oh, I see. You must be a proponent of piracy. Just because we shut down one entity and try to extradite one of your citizens who did nothing more than allow his data to flow through routers in the US, you think we're a bunch of out of control bullies who think we can do anything we want, regardless of what any law says....Well, let me tell you...You're right. We are a bunch a bullies who thing we can do anything regardless of what the law says.
As a US citizen, I apologize for the idiots who have taken over our government, and I appreciate your refusal to accept our insane policies. We're fighting the battle here too.
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Have you looked around? Collectively, people aren't rational actors. The economic assumptions that the populace are rational actors acting on perfect information, and that the people in that market would never attempt to cheat, lie or steal is what finally made me realize your model of economics is based on untenable axioms. To me, it's your system which tries to make people into something they're not. People have been cooperating to eke out a better life for thousands of years. Precisely because it is in their best interest.
People do irrational things. People don't know what's always best for them.
Your system boils down to "fuck everyone else, as long as I have my gun to protect myself I can make it". That's not a "society", that's an uneasy peace since sooner or later one of these people who wants to win is going to remember it's far easier to just take it. You know, like Somalia.
And you the Easter Bunny. Or, maybe I should say Easter Bunnye since we're adding random e's.
As always, such a stimulating conversation.
I had forgotten how boring this stuff is and why I stopped reading Ayn Rand in the first place. Your rugged individualism is more like anti-social behavior to me. I also understand just how thoroughly committed you are to that viewpoint.
So, roll around in your ideology and fantasies of John Galt or being worthy enough to lick the boots of Dagny Taggart. I outgrew that shit 10 years ago.
Cheers
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