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National Planetary Exploration Car Wash and Bake Sale

An anonymous reader writes "To attract media and Congressional attention to the deep NASA planetary exploration cuts proposed to take place October 1, and the need to restore the planetary budget to present or higher levels, a National Planetary Exploration Car Wash and Bake Sale is being planned for June 9th. Organizations already involved include planetary groups at many universities, research institutions, and Moon Express (Google Lunar X Prize)."

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  1. That's what I like about 'merica by Taco+Cowboy · · Score: 4

    I'm not an American, but I gotta acknowledge that never-say-die spirit of 'em Americans.

    The "Car Wash 'n Bake Sale" is a stroke of genius !

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  2. Re:I've got a better idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    The only place those trilliions should go is back to the hard working people they were taken from. If individuals want a space program, then they can get out their check books and voluntarily pay for one.

    Boy, your just showing your ignorance there. NASA routinely runs less than a penny per federal dollar.
    It makes no sense to try to balance the budget with cuts to NASA.
    From Wikipedia:
    NASA's FY 2011 budget of $18.4 billion represents about 0.5% of the $3.4 trillion United States federal budget during the year, or about 35% of total spending on academic scientific research in the United States.

  3. Re:I've got a better idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    You can say just about the same thing about all other government services. You want medical care, school systems, highway infrastructure, social security?? Then why don't you get out your own checkbook and pay for it yourself, and give me back the taxes I paid for the services you use.

  4. Re:I've got a better idea... by V!NCENT · · Score: 3, Insightful

    How about stopping the stupid cannabis war? Not only do you need about 33% of the current police force (I kid you not), but also there will be massive hippy protest to stop costly wars, saving even more.

    Problem? I'm sure some cannabis smokers who get high before bedtime will totally bring evil to the world! (not)

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  5. Re:Public vs. private funding by paiute · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Now imagine if the Department of Defense instead went out and spent their time trying to raise the money they need from private benefactors, rather than this silly attempt at shaming the government into giving them more stolen money. It wouldn't matter how many people don't want to fund them; if they find enough money, even if it comes from just one benefactor, they could go forward with buying guns and stuff.

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  6. A step further by DNS-and-BIND · · Score: 3, Interesting
    We need to introduce this culture of poverty to America's military as well. When that happens, we'll be much more advanced as a culture.

    "It will be a great day when our schools get all the money they need and the Air Force has to hold a bake sale to buy a bomber."

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  7. Re:I've got a better idea... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Compassion is a ridiculously easy system to game to your advantage. Worse than that, once it gets settled, only those who game the system can get anything out of it.

    Look at both history and the way begging goes in the poorer parts of the modern world. You can find professional beggars who put more effort into looking desperate than they do into finding work, even to the extent of crippling themselves, removing limbs, tearing off skin to fake skin diseases, and so on.

    There are also huge biases built in. Women get more charity than men. It's easier to find charity money for starving kids than it is to prevent them from starving in the first place. Cancer victims are fashionable, tuberculosis victims are ignored.

    I simply do not believe it is possible for pure charity to be fair.

    I don't know much about the US welfare system, so it might well be a complete disaster, but in general the state welfare model can be made blind to all this bias, and in most of the developed world, that's exactly the point of it.

  8. Re:Public vs. private funding by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Interesting

    Now imagine if these people instead went out and spent their time trying to raise the money they need from private benefactors, rather than this silly attempt at shaming the government into giving them more stolen money.

    Now imagine that they have been trying that tack, and they're still broke.

    Going into space benefits us all. It has already paid dividends. It can pay more. It makes more sense than blowing the money on highways when we could be building rail, which can carry ten times as many passengers per dollar spent in the best case, and achieves parity in the worst case.

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  9. Re:I've got a better idea... by miletus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    What's tragic is how many people here equate liberty with money. "The Road to Serfdom" is going to end up as a how-to manual.

  10. a better idea by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Funny

    NASA should sell beer to raise money. Call it Moon Brew, plaster it in patriotic imagery and tell men it makes them smarter and promotes scientific progress at the same time.

    Only 100 billion more barrels to Titan!

  11. Re:I've got a better idea... by Telvin_3d · · Score: 3, Insightful

    pushes out private charity

    What does this mean? That once an organized effort is providing all the starving people with food, private individuals no longer throw money at a lucky few?

    It sounds like complaining that the professional firemen push out citizen fire brigades. That's the whole point of it.

  12. Re:I've got a better idea... by JoshuaZ · · Score: 3, Insightful

    In order to effectively and reliably fund things, one needs regular sources of funding. And simply going to people and asking for a fraction of a cent is not an efficient or reliable way of getting money. Moreover, scientific research,like defense, is a public good http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Public_good which means that everyone benefits whether they pay for it or not. Thus, people will have no incentive given the option not to pay for it since they will benefit either way. The only effective or fair way to pay for public goods is for everyone to pay.