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Quantum Experiment Shows Effect Before Cause
steveb3210 writes "Physicists have demonstrated that making a decision about whether or not to entangle two photons can be made after you've already measured the states of the photons."
Here's the article's description of the experiment: 'Two independent sources (labeled I and II) produce pairs of photons such that their polarization states are entangled. One photon from I goes to Alice, while one photon from II is sent to Bob. The second photon from each source goes to Victor. Alice and Bob independently perform polarization measurements; no communication passes between them during the experiment—they set the orientation of their polarization filters without knowing what the other is doing. At some time after Alice and Bob perform their measurements, Victor makes a choice (the "delayed choice" in the name). He either allows his two photons from I and II to travel on without doing anything, or he combines them so that their polarization states are entangled. A final measurement determines the polarization state of those two photons. ... Ma et al. found to a high degree of confidence that when Victor selected entanglement, Alice and Bob found correlated photon polarizations. This didn't happen when Victor left the photons alone.'
Nevermind -- why bother telling you if you already know :-(
*Looks at physics degree.*
*Tosses it in the trash.*
Victor should decide not to entangle the photons whenever Alice and Bob's polarizations are correlated. That'll rip physics a new one...
Victor is Bipolarized making him erratic and unpredictable. Might want to try adding lithium atoms into the mix and see if the results stabilize.
Given that now cause/effect are now uncertain...
are you sure about that? :)
Non impediti ratione cogitationus.
1. PROFIT!!!
2. ???
3. Collide some photons!
don't worry, you've already decided......
The argument goes like this:
`I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
`But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
`Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
`Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.
FTFA:
They probably hired the cable guy that got fired from CERN a few months ago.
They want sub-millisecond latency on high-frequency transactions? We'll give them negative latency! Let's see what they do then!
That reminds me of the old joke.
One day, the teacher asked Johnny, "What's the difference between 14 billionths and 15 billionths?
Johnny answered, "That's what I say, What's the fuckin' difference?!"
You are welcome on my lawn.
You'll end up with two subprime mortgage contracts before you even have a house to lose.
They're wise to that now. The foreclosure notices go out before your approved. These guys are crooked, not stupid!
So, are they working on something that makes light travel a long distance and/or go slower before making that "decision", thus achieving a substantial delay that could actually be used for "time travelling information"?
Under the simple interpretation, nothing "goes back in time." It's essentially two Schrodinger's cats (A & B) being in a superimposed state for several nano-seconds. Then V adds a constraint, and eventually the A, B, and V information bubbles interact and collapse into an observed state that the scientists record.
The meta-computer that runs our universe probably printed a log message like 'ATOMIC MERGE-OP unexpected long delay on eval: d=7m, t=23ns.' If scientists persist in this sort of research, the person running this universe will probably just ^C the app.
They say newborns have an intuitive understanding of some basic physics, but nobody is born understanding quantum mechanics.
Well, in all honesty, how do you know - I mean, it not like we can ask. Maybe newborn babies do have an innate understanding of quantum mechanics, and we spend the first few years of their life to make them unlearn it? ~
Due to the 104-meter fiber-optic cable, Victor's measurements occurred at least 14 billionths of a second after those of Alice and Bob
Should have used Monster cables...