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Quantum Experiment Shows Effect Before Cause

steveb3210 writes "Physicists have demonstrated that making a decision about whether or not to entangle two photons can be made after you've already measured the states of the photons." Here's the article's description of the experiment: 'Two independent sources (labeled I and II) produce pairs of photons such that their polarization states are entangled. One photon from I goes to Alice, while one photon from II is sent to Bob. The second photon from each source goes to Victor. Alice and Bob independently perform polarization measurements; no communication passes between them during the experiment—they set the orientation of their polarization filters without knowing what the other is doing. At some time after Alice and Bob perform their measurements, Victor makes a choice (the "delayed choice" in the name). He either allows his two photons from I and II to travel on without doing anything, or he combines them so that their polarization states are entangled. A final measurement determines the polarization state of those two photons. ... Ma et al. found to a high degree of confidence that when Victor selected entanglement, Alice and Bob found correlated photon polarizations. This didn't happen when Victor left the photons alone.'

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  1. In other quantum news . . . by Tanman · · Score: 5, Funny

    Nevermind -- why bother telling you if you already know :-(

    1. Re:In other quantum news . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      The bartender says "no faster than light travel allowed in here."

      A tachyon walks into a bar.

    2. Re:In other quantum news . . . by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      Know any good jokes?

    3. Re:In other quantum news . . . by Dan+East · · Score: 4, Funny

      I just experienced the effect firsthand. I was confused before I even read the summary.

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    4. Re:In other quantum news . . . by tomhath · · Score: 4, Funny

      Gypsy: No

      Interviewer: Is it true that you can read minds?

  2. Sigh... by InvisibleClergy · · Score: 5, Funny

    *Looks at physics degree.*

    *Tosses it in the trash.*

    1. Re:Sigh... by cdrudge · · Score: 5, Funny

      Shouldn't that be updated to be:

      *Tosses it in the trash*

      *Looks at physics degree*

  3. Paradoxical by myrdos2 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Victor should decide not to entangle the photons whenever Alice and Bob's polarizations are correlated. That'll rip physics a new one...

  4. There's a simplier solution by Grayhand · · Score: 5, Funny

    Victor is Bipolarized making him erratic and unpredictable. Might want to try adding lithium atoms into the mix and see if the results stabilize.

    1. Re:There's a simplier solution by Victor_0x53h · · Score: 4, Funny
  5. The new get rich scheme! by agent_vee · · Score: 4, Funny

    1. PROFIT!!!
    2. ???
    3. Collide some photons!

    1. Re:The new get rich scheme! by DeadDecoy · · Score: 4, Funny

      That sounds like how most grant-funded research occurs.

  6. Re:Now they've done it by Yvan256 · · Score: 5, Funny

    The argument goes like this:
    `I refuse to prove that I exist,' says God, `for proof denies faith, and without faith I am nothing.'
    `But,' says Man, `The Babel fish is a dead giveaway, isn't it? It could not have evolved by chance. It proves you exist, and so therefore, by your own arguments, you don't. QED.'
    `Oh dear,' says God, `I hadn't thought of that,' and promptly disappears in a puff of logic.
    `Oh, that was easy,' says Man, and for an encore goes on to prove that black is white and gets himself killed on the next zebra crossing.

  7. Cabling? by number6x · · Score: 4, Funny

    FTFA:

    That little bit of cabling was enough to ensure that anything that happened at Victor occurred after Alice and Bob had done their measurements.

    They probably hired the cable guy that got fired from CERN a few months ago.

    1. Re:Cabling? by uigrad_2000 · · Score: 5, Funny

      They actually decided to one-up the CERN-OPERA people.

      They fired the cable guy before they even hired him!

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  8. Re:Time delay - info from the future? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    They want sub-millisecond latency on high-frequency transactions? We'll give them negative latency! Let's see what they do then!

  9. Re:Time delay - info from the future? by siddesu · · Score: 4, Funny

    You'll end up with two subprime mortgage contracts before you even have a house to lose.

  10. Re:Time delay - info from the future? by Gorobei · · Score: 5, Funny

    So, are they working on something that makes light travel a long distance and/or go slower before making that "decision", thus achieving a substantial delay that could actually be used for "time travelling information"?

    Under the simple interpretation, nothing "goes back in time." It's essentially two Schrodinger's cats (A & B) being in a superimposed state for several nano-seconds. Then V adds a constraint, and eventually the A, B, and V information bubbles interact and collapse into an observed state that the scientists record.

    The meta-computer that runs our universe probably printed a log message like 'ATOMIC MERGE-OP unexpected long delay on eval: d=7m, t=23ns.' If scientists persist in this sort of research, the person running this universe will probably just ^C the app.