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Study Suggests the Number-Line Concept Is Not Intuitive

An anonymous reader writes "The Yupno people of New Guinea have provided clues to the origins of the number-line concept, and suggest that the familiar concept of time may be cultural as well. From the article: 'Tape measures. Rulers. Graphs. The gas gauge in your car, and the icon on your favorite digital device showing battery power. The number line and its cousins – notations that map numbers onto space and often represent magnitude – are everywhere. Most adults in industrialized societies are so fluent at using the concept, we hardly think about it. We don't stop to wonder: Is it 'natural'? Is it cultural? Now, challenging a mainstream scholarly position that the number-line concept is innate, a study suggests it is learned."

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  1. Did they test males or females? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Funny

    Because I know most males know the number of their line, or at least what they think it is.

  2. Re:The Story of 1 with Terry Jones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    I thought the concept of "ruler" started with King Arthur, after a watery tart lobbed a scimitar at him.

  3. Re:Counting? by pthisis · · Score: 5, Funny

    The way that people figured this out is that if five hunters go into a forest as a group, split up and hide. Then one by one, four hunters leave one at a time. The fifth hunter stays in hiding, the monkeys come out of hunting, and the hunter shoots a monkey. This does not happen when there are less than five hunters initially.
    I should hope not: if there are four hunters initially, then one by one four hunters leave, there are no hunters left to shoot the monkey. And if there are 3 or fewer hunters initially than the scenario's impossible.

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  4. The number line does not work for me ... by Skapare · · Score: 3, Funny

    ... because I use complex numbers for everything, you insensitive clod. Don't you have any feelings for the one dimensionally-challenged?

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  5. Re:Counting? by Brucelet · · Score: 1, Funny

    Well maybe there were just a negative number of hunters to begin with. It takes monkey smarts to realize this possibility.

  6. Re:The Story of 1 with Terry Jones by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Bah. Farcical aquatic ceremonies are no basis for a system of measurement.

    Use of the number line is derived from a mandate of the masses. Everyone knows that.

  7. Re:The Story of 1 with Terry Jones by ArsonSmith · · Score: 3, Funny

    I need to know the "watery tart lobbing scimitars" to miles conversion. The other day they was an asteroid the size of a strange woman distributing swords that burned up over California.

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  8. Re:Counting? by Mannfred · · Score: 1, Funny

    Once you go silverback, there's no going back.

  9. Re:Anyone who has ever taught math knows this by Brian+Feldman · · Score: 4, Funny

    -1 Completely misunderstanding the point of the article and comment.

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  10. Re:Counting? by initialE · · Score: 4, Funny

    There was this bald monkey coming out, screaming in his monkey language: "There... Are... Four... Hunters!"
    And then, he died. Apparently a bad day to wear his red shirt.

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  11. Re:Counting? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny
    That's a mistranslation.

    It was actually "Developers! Developers! Developers! Developers!"

  12. Re:Anyone who has ever taught math knows this by lxs · · Score: 1, Funny

    Ah but did he "get" it or did his eternal soul "remember" it?
    Hmm? hmm?
    *strokes goatee while daydreaming about Plato*

  13. It's not just Yupno Valley - Seattle too by dbIII · · Score: 3, Funny

    I'm not sure if they've fixed it yet, but the defaults for line charts in MS Excel were insanely set to have equal spacing between data points on one axis no matter what values they have.
    Thus you could have an axis that looked like:
    1 4 7 8 14 35
    IMHO that sort of defeats the purpose of a line graph. I can userstand linear or log scales but a random changing scale is pointless.

  14. Re:Anyone who has ever taught math knows this by Hognoxious · · Score: 4, Funny

    Physics? Is that your name for applied maths?

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  15. Re:Anyone who has ever taught math knows this by arth1 · · Score: 4, Funny

    In order to save time, paper, and ink, I made my number line logarithmic.

    I hope you made two of them for the synergy effect.

    Slide rule joke of the day:
    When Noah told his menagerie "go forth and multiply", two snakes replied: "We can't, we're adders!"
    Noah then built a wooden table, placed the snakes on it, and much joy and spawn ensued.
    Because on a log table, even adders can multiply.

  16. Re:Anyone who has ever taught math knows this by camperdave · · Score: 3, Funny

    Watch kids play with Lego sometime. They'll be able to tell you why their sibling has the very brick they were going to use to make their creation. Number line they get. Fungibility of Lego bricks, they don't.

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