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House Passes CISPA
wiedzmin writes "The House approved Cyber Intelligence Sharing and Protection Act with a 248 to 168 vote today. CISPA allows internet service providers to share Internet 'threat' information with government agencies, including DHS and NSA, without having to protect any personally identifying data of its customers, without a court order. It effectively immunizes ISPs from privacy lawsuits for disclosing customer information, grants them anti-trust protection on colluding on cybersecurity issues and allows them to bypass privacy laws when sharing data with each other."
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll192.xml Handy list of the reps who voted for this turd.
Roll call here. He was among the 15 who did not cast a vote. Thanks, Ron.
Dog is my co-pilot.
... and then tell me "there's no difference" between Democrats and Republicans.
http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2012/roll192.xml
The correlation between ignorance of statistics and using "correlation is not causation" as an argument is close to 1.
Let me just give you a sample of the kind of data they will have access to, without a warrant, if Obama doesn't veto this.
Every transaction you have made involving a card, ever, including the date, time of day, name of the merchant, city and state of the merchant, ID number of the terminal where the card was swiped, amount of transaction, etc etc etc.
Every time you withdrew money from an ATM. it stores the amount, the location of the ATM, the time of day, etc.
The same goes for online transactions.
An image of every check you have ever written.
Every deposit slip you have used.
Every time you have talked to a teller in person, the interaction is recorded.
Every time you have called the bank on the telephone.
It is all there. Waiting for the government to use it, as it sees fit.
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Now, link that up with records from places like Wal-Mart. They can correlate card numbers with items. They know what brand of toothpaste you buy. They know what kind of toilet paper you use. They know if you like to buy a lot of baggies (are you a drug dealer?), if you buy a lot of cold medicine (are you a meth dealer?), if you buy a lot of condoms (are you a pimp?), etc etc etc.
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Now, link this up with projects like the CINDER (Cyber Insider Threat) ADAMS, and PRODIGAL (some of which have been program-managed by former hackers like Mudge from l0pht heavy industries). If you dig through these 'proposals', you will find academics saying things like "Maybe a target goes to lunch at a different time of day. that might indicate a threat". This is where our tax money is going. This is what is being built.
TL;DR version - CISPA is how "Total Information Awareness" and spying on every US citizen without cause becomes legal.
What's really sad is that the current Supreme Court couldn't even be counted on to assert the 4th amendment if this got challenged in court. After all, 5 of those senile delinquents recently ruled that you can be strip-searched for jaywalking.
You do know this isn't law yet, right? And you also know that Obama has said he would veto it if it ever came to his desk right? The sky isn't falling dude.
Just like he was gonna veto NDAA until it gave him more power?
If it doesn't get vetoed, then it's time to use the ammo box. This just fucked up the future of my children. I will give my life for them.
>>>Obama has said he would veto it
Wow you're a gullible little fucker. Didn't he ALSO say he would veto the NDAA? Yes. Then he signed it. The lying piece of shit.... I suspect Obama is really George Bush wearing a mask.
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Not to feed the troll here but actually it breaks down as thus:
Republicans:
Yea - 206
Nay - 28
Not Voting - 7
Democrats:
Yea - 42
Nay - 140
Not Voting - 8
Percentage-wise it breaks down as 28% Dems approved the bill vs 85% Repubs supporting.
It was passed by a veto-proof majority. Obama subsequently weakened it by executive order stating that any one of a panel of six people could unilaterally overrule it.
I swear, that "Obama supports the NDAA!" propaganda is the most devastatingly insidious lie since the "swiftboat veterans" for "truth".
I'm sorry. He signed the bill into law. Had he truly been opposed to it, he could have vetoed it. Sure, his veto could have been overruled, but at least he'd be officially on the record that he didn't support it.
Also, Obama specifically requested the removal of language that said the NDAA would not apply to US citizens or lawful residents. See: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DNDHbT44cY
I'm sorry--I think there's a big difference between "swiftboat veterans" for "truth" and "Obama supported the NDAA and specifically requested some of the draconian language in the bill"
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At least the SCOTUS ruling that political donations = free speech, and can remain anonymous, has made official what we already knew--your vote doesn't matter. Those with money get to "vote" for both sides, so they own whoever wins regardless.
I think it's worse than that. I think the dems didn't vote for it because they knew there was enough votes in the Republican camp to carry it. If there weren't, then they would have been required to vote for it.
They all have the same handlers, after all.
He wants to outlaw abortion. That's not being for liberty.
Since 2000, we've seen the Patriot Act, Military Commissions Act, Warrantless Wiretapping, telecom immunity for the aforementioned, indefinite detention(and now assassination!) of U.S. citizens without charge or trial, NDAA ... and this relentless effort to legalize internet espionage.
Furthermore, it's no secret that the NSA is building a huge new data center in Utah.
http://www.wired.com/threatlevel/2012/03/ff_nsadatacenter/all/1
This stuff isn't in the realm of "conspiracy theories" nor exclusive to wearers of tinfoil hats.