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Monkeypox Scare Grounds Flight In Chicago
Hugh Pickens writes "AP reports that when a Delta Airlines flight touched down at Midway International Airport in Chicago, the passengers looked out the window to see the jet surrounded by fire trucks, police cars and ambulances. Health officials came through the door wearing facemasks and other protective gear. As it turns out the bedbugs that infest hotels appear to be the source of red marks on a 50-year old Minnesota woman that prompted health officials to quarantine the jet for fear they were dealing with something much more serious: monkeypox. Lise Sievers called her mother during a layover in Detroit and told her that one of the children she visited and is trying to adopt in Uganda had some pus-filled red bumps and also mentioned she had some small bumps of her own, a rash that she suspected was the handiwork of bedbugs. Those two very different bumps — one with pus, one without — got jumbled up in Siever's mother's mind, and she called a hospital near her Indiana home to ask about treatment for her daughter. 'She told them her daughter is on a flight back from Uganda and has some red bumps which are pussing and what should she do to treat them,' says Roger Sievers. 'She was looking for some general advice.' Health officials feared they were looking for monkeypox, a rare and sometimes fatal disease mostly in found in central and western Africa. After the passengers waited on the plane for a couple of hours, officials brought good news. 'They came back down and told my mom it was bed bug bites and they started releasing people.'"
Well, the alternative is monkey pox!
Somebody needs to find that monkey paw. No doubt some shyster's put a pox on Delta for their dastardly short-sell scheme.
Thank you, Edward Snowden.
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So, your "privacy" is more important than the risk of carrying a highly contagius and painful disease that could very well require quarantine? Because that's what monkeypox is. I've helped treat people who have it, it spreads quickly as hell, and the enclosed nature of an airplane means that you need to check them out like this.
If you really think that your "privacy" or convenience is more important than the risk of spreading a disease like that to 10, 100 or potentially thousands of people, the world is better off by putting a bullet through your head.
"Hey, I just wanted to ask about treatment for this disease that my potential daughter has in FUCKING UGANDA that I've been exposed to, but I'm not going to really be clear in my mind as to the symptoms, especially after I've already come back to the United States and am walking around in a large metropolitan airport."
Can we start imprisoning people for being idiots yet? Please?
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Geesh... it's getting bad. Don't say anything to police... don't ask hospital personnel anything
"monkeypox, a rare and sometimes fatal disease"
As opposed to MonkeyShines, a more common and fun disease.
You were mistaken. Which is odd, since memory shouldn't be a problem for you
As a follow-up, I should point out that TFA saying it is rare is a bit of a misnomer: It's rare in Europe and North America. In Africa, it's not very rare.
She knew it was bedbugs you half-witted retard.
Troll! Back to sniffing glue for you.
It's the other way round - symptoms of a potentially fatal disease were handled professionally. Happily it was something different but I am sure nobody on that plane would like to have spread such a disease around their families and friends.
This attitude is exactly why the world is going to be horrendously screwed when the next super flu breaks out. Wild overreactions to highly contagious diseases are the only appropriate reactions. Its one thing to queue up and get groped by the TSA to protect us from the terrorist boogeyman, but quite another to be inconvenienced due to a credible possibility that everyone on the plane may need to shortly check into a hospital along with everyone they've had contact with.
Let me guess, your kids don't get vaccinated either?
But then who will feed the bed bugs?
Seriously, you guys either need to stop posting his spam as stories or just give him the keys to the store and get out of the way. Why is this even considered for a Slashdot story? There's no News for Nerds, Stuff that Matters angle AT ALL. And that's typical of the spam from Hugh Pickens. You ban other spammers, now do the same for him.
a highly contagius and painful disease that could very well require quarantine? Because that's what monkeypox is.
Highly contagious - er, no. Person to person transmission is RARE. So long as infected monkeys or prairie dogs aren't on the plane, the passengers should be pretty safe. Go read up on it again, nurse. It's ignorant people like you that cost a LOT of money. There is nothing worse than an idiot with initiative. Love - a doc.
The good news is the person next to you on the plane does not have monkeypox. The bad news is that person's clothes, and now the plane seats, are infested with bed bugs. Thanks for sharing.
There is no protection from the inconsiderate behavior of your fellow traveller.
The description is incorrect, possibly because it's written by worthless, status-obsessed docs in shiny western offices, where they rarely encounter it.
However, if you had been lessed obsessed about artificially propped-up status and wages, and instead worked on the ground for a year or two in, say, Sierra Leone, or Congo, empirical evidence down there would tell you it's NOT rare, it IS highly contagious. But *fatalities* ARE rare.
Those passengers were lucky they weren't tased, pepper sprayed and dragged off to jail.
This is incredibly cheering news. There are still people in government capable of responding quickly and effectively to try to corral a potentially devastating epidemic.
After all the news about the TSA saving us by groping four year old girls, this is practically redemptive news. Not everyone in government is a fool, even after the thirty year decline.
The description is incorrect, possibly because it's written by worthless, status-obsessed docs in shiny western offices, where they rarely encounter it.
It would have been best if they had qualified "Rare" with something like "in the west" or "outside of endemic regions". But textbook descriptions are written by western docs, for the use of western docs, who have enough problems as it is with students/patients who hear hoofbeats and think Zebras.
From what I am reading here (and there), the authorities acted in the best interest of everyone concerned, even if it did "inconvenience" the people on that airplane. The results if it were a worst-case scenario (monkeypox) could have been devastating! As a wise person once said, "Sh!t happens! Deal with it!"...
Bedbugs used to be a thing of the past thanks to the wide spread use of DDT in the 50s. Their reemergence was only a matter of time now that it was banned. But, New York is a melting pot for people all over the world, and someone brought the bugs with them. Eventually they spread like wildfire and the rest they say is history.
Life is not for the lazy.
Oh please, take a real look at how kids waiting for adoption in the US live vs kids in Uganda.
The child in Uganda actually has the symptoms of Monkeypox, right? How do we know the mother doesn't have it and just isn't showing it yet? How is this child not going to infect others when he is bought over to America?
It's funny how all Doctors/Lawyers/"OMG I"M CETIFIEdEd PROFESSIONAL"s seem to post as Anonymous cowards. BTW you think a real doctor would show a "nurse" professional courtesy, instead of using the term disparagingly. It leads me to believe that most ACs are just twelve year old trolls.
If there wasn't a threat why were crews brought in, why were they not letting people off the plane? Ask yourself these kind of things before ever posting again. Be sure to log in first.
Humbly I modify a quote from the parent. "There is nothing worse than an Anonymous Coward with initiative and time." Love - AtomicAdam
Wow! LoL Tax dollars at work big time! First, the TSA was the Terrorists at the Gates, then became the Perverts at the Gates and now have morphed into World HealthCare Pros at the Gates. Where will it end? Napolitano's Homeland [in] Security Theater becomes HealthCare Theater. Will we see her and her lap-dop Pistol on Broadway in a new Burlesque Show about the Obama's?
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Monkey POX!!!?!?! NO SIR, I like my Chicken Pox JUST fine thank you. With Barbecue Sauce Please.
American orphans aren't good enough for her? Pathetic.
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In the 21st century... We had that one figured out 40 years ago.
Sigh...gotta love it when some random busybody can just spawn a thought and all of a sudden we're all under a terrorist attack/disease outbreak/gamma ray burst. You wanna talk about modern weapons putting too much power into the hands of one person...how about the Internet? Any stupid moron can start an outrage that stops traffic in Manhattan by coming up with the idea that blah, blah, blah, outrage! Monkeypox? Sigh...
If they hadn't banned Malathion and DDT, we wouldn't be worrying about bedbugs in the U.S. Or in Africa.
They're rampant in Mexico, btw. But don't stop anyone at the border, don't inspect furniture or other items shipped from there. It's raaa-a-a-acist!
"she called a hospital near her Indiana home to ask about treatment for her daughter"
First mistake.
Health care in this country has essentially become an arm of the State.
Best to DIY, where possible.
So they let her off the plane and onto the streets to spread more bedbugs.
This city astounds me sometimes.
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If there wasn't a threat why were crews brought in, why were they not letting people off the plane? Ask yourself these kind of things before ever posting again. Be sure to log in first.
Apparently you've never heard of swatting and the tendency in the US of over-reacting to any simple event.
But the answer was that there wasn't a threat. (Bed bug bites, while unsightly and disgusting are not a threat.)
Nor would real Monkey pox be that contagious requiring full quarantine. It is not spread by casual contact. Even under their own protocol, it was an over-reaction.
Sig Battery depleted. Reverting to safe mode.
I understand the quarantine and think it was justified, but if this was a simple symptom mixup, then why did it take a couple of hours to clear it up?
CDC's quick response: good. Slow follow through: bad.
It's not often that it's good news that it's "just" a bunch of bed bug bites!
I hear it also hurts when meteorites fall on one's head. I suggest wearing a helmet 24/7.
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> the world is better off by putting a bullet through your head.
I find this attitude interesting, albeit somewhat hypocritical. You'd happily help people treat a physical disease, but argue in favor of killing somebody because of their opinion. And if somebody disagrees with that, should they also call for your execution? Taken far enough, that has potential to lead to a lot more deaths than the people who got sick from the bedbugs. We'd all be better off with a bit more tolerance, no?
woman visits children with pus filled bumps, in africa, and isnt scared shitless. mother conflates symptoms, calls hospital for advice. America is doomed, due to our complete lack of understanding of infectious disease and how to report symptoms accurately. thank god the TSA can do something right. I work with trained professionals in the mental health field who can barely describe the simplest medical condition without hyperbole or misinformation. cant even get straight what a virus or bacterium is. hell, dont even know that soda pop contains sugar.
Yes, but substantially higher when it a bunch of people in a tight metal tube for hours.
If you are a doc, please stop practicing. You lack the ability to take situations into account before rendering an opinion.
How do people get monkeypox?
Monkeypox can spread to humans from an infected animal through an animal bite or direct contact with the animal’s lesions or body fluids. The disease also can be spread from person to person, although it is much less infectious than smallpox. The virus is thought to be transmitted by respiratory droplets during direct and prolonged face-to-face contact. In addition, it is possible monkeypox can be spread by direct contact with body fluids of an infected person or with virus-contaminated objects, such as bedding or clothing.
These factors mean that while on the craft infection probability sky rockets, and it[s a risk to the next passengers.
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Experts are well away of exactly how contagious it is. You are an idiot and know nothing about the medical community in the US.
It's slightly less contagious the small pox. You're problem is you aren't an expert, you don't understand the verbiage, and don't understand what rare means.
Fatalities are 1 to 10 percent.
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You're bad karma is from posting ignorant hyperbole like that.
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..... If there wasn't a threat why were crews brought in, why were they not letting people off the plane?
Corporate PR, legal liabilities/regulatory compliance, international diplomacy -there are a host of legitimate reasons why the events should have unfolded just as it did. Having said that, the explanation FTFA is that some misinformation was communicated that lead the folks at the CDC taking a "worst case scenario" approach.
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