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NY Times: 'FBI Foils Its Own Terrorist Plots'

Fluffeh writes "Breaking up terrorist plots is one of the main goals of the FBI these days. If it can't do that, well, it seems making plots up and then valiantly stopping them is okay too — but the NY Times is calling them on it. 'The United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts. But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.'"

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  1. It's not Entrapment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's encouragement.

    Very different. For one thing, the movie stars Jessica Alba instead of Catherine Zeta-Jones.

    1. Re:It's not Entrapment. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Informative

      Might want to go back and look at that stuff. Because it was holder who authorized the selling and NOT tracking of the guns sold.

      Bush however did, and didn't let them walk. Figure out the difference yet? A walking gun is one where you don't track it.

    2. Re:It's not Entrapment. by jamesmusik · · Score: 5, Informative

      It took a constitutional amendment to ban liquor, because the Supreme Court at the time did not interpret the Commerce Clause as expansively. After Wickard v. Fillmore, banning liquor or drugs would be perfectly within Congress' powers. The fact that Congress delegated some power to the DEA is perfectly in line with a number of precedents on agency powers.

    3. Re:It's not Entrapment. by CarlCotner · · Score: 5, Informative

      In 2006.

      When Obama was secretly President.

      God damn him and his time machine.

      Operation Fast and Furious began in 2009. I believe Obama was president sans time machine.

  2. Re:Odd... by Wovel · · Score: 5, Informative

    Did you read the story? The guy said no like 100 times. They pushed on him for 11 months, paid him $250k and promised him no women or children would be hurt. Hard for me to call that willing. If the catch a predator people offered the perps $50k to come have sex with them, you might have a similar situation.

  3. FBI and the Constitution by Compaqt · · Score: 4, Informative

    You seriously haven't heard of that? Assuming you're not a troll:

    http://rt.com/news/fbi-terrorists-guide-security-171/
    http://www.constitution.org/abus/terror/constitutional_terrorists.htm
    http://welfarestate.com/pamphlet/

    Terrorists include those who:
    -Defend the constitution
    -Attempt to police the police (taping the police?)
    -Lone individuals
    -Non-lone individuals (members of groups)
    -Rightists
    -Leftists
    -Pay in cash
    -Attempt to hide passwords
    -Nervous
    -Take pictures
    -Stare

    This basically just confirms what has been the philosophy of the FBI for a long time (since its founding), including harassment of MLK and the civil rights movement.

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