NY Times: 'FBI Foils Its Own Terrorist Plots'

Fluffeh writes "Breaking up terrorist plots is one of the main goals of the FBI these days. If it can't do that, well, it seems making plots up and then valiantly stopping them is okay too — but the NY Times is calling them on it. 'The United States has been narrowly saved from lethal terrorist plots in recent years — or so it has seemed. A would-be suicide bomber was intercepted on his way to the Capitol; a scheme to bomb synagogues and shoot Stinger missiles at military aircraft was developed by men in Newburgh, N.Y.; and a fanciful idea to fly explosive-laden model planes into the Pentagon and the Capitol was hatched in Massachusetts. But all these dramas were facilitated by the F.B.I., whose undercover agents and informers posed as terrorists offering a dummy missile, fake C-4 explosives, a disarmed suicide vest and rudimentary training. Suspects naïvely played their parts until they were arrested.'"

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Good.

[benjfowler]

Anybody willing to be sucked into such a scheme is a traitorous maggot, who deserves to have their heads flushed in Club Gitmo.

Absolutely no sympathy here. None whatsoever.

I think the FBI should be commended for taking out the trash, and deterring other wannabe jihadi shitbags from biting the hand that feeds them.

Re:Making Up vs. Facilitating

[Anonymous Coward]

Encouraging a bunch of j*ckoffs who couldn't find their asses with both hands at high noon is bullsh*t propaganda.

The FBI aided the _first_ WTC bomb plot.
The FBI aided Olklahoma City.

Bunch of fscking leeches that need to get real jobs. And stop being such a scared rabbit, America is not supposed the land of pissed pants.

Don't forget: the former head of the CIA and father of the sitting President at the time, was close friends with the man who initiated the 9/11.

Re:It's not Entrapment.

[OeLeWaPpErKe]

Actually most are victims of other muslims. People convicted to death under sharia, ... that's the first big group. People who's family is under threat from other muslims. A form of honor killing that doesn't actually involve killing your close family, but only strangers. Mentally handicapped (which are sentenced to death in a way ... in sharia parents have the right to murder their own children). The second big group are (mostly very non-devout) muslims who've been educated and have isolated themselves from society (both the one they were born into, and their new one at their job or whatever). Devout muslims, if they're involved, are the commanders, they glorify these terrorist massacres. But they don't risk their own lives at all (which of course also proves just how much faith they actually have in their "allah").

Re:It's not Entrapment.

[amiga3D]

I'm pretty sure that President Obama hasn't been selling any guns to anyone. His minions got a little carried away but then this president is the opposite of President Bush. President Bush surrounded himself with smart people making him seem even dumber than he was while President Obama surrounds himself with stupid people making him seem even smarter than he is.

Re:Of course it's not entrapment

[OeLeWaPpErKe]

In other words there about as innocent as someone who pulled the trigger on a gun while it was aimed at someone's head. The FBI just makes sure there's no bullet in the chamber.

That's a good thing.

And it doesn't catch innocents, they even let people go who buy the stuff and then chicken out.

Here's the concrete cases they're worried about :
1) guy buys bomb vest, which he thinks works. He gets arrested just before he's about to enter a crowded public area intending to detonate it.
2) guy buys planes and explosives. Builds the actual "bombs", and goes off to actually launch them. Gets arrested while unloading the flying bombs.
3) guy buys a missile, gets arrested after he's pushed the "fire" button which did not work

Which exactly is the innocent here ? Just wondering.

Re:It's not Entrapment.

[cold fjord]

>In case you haven't heard one of Obama's admins was selling guns to drug dealers in Mexico,

In 2006.

When Obama was secretly President.

God damn him and his time machine.

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BMO

Predictable.

Fast & Furious Was . . . Bush’s Fault

I was only able to take in parts of Attorney General Eric Holder’s just-completed Senate testimony. But that was enough to see that “Bush did it” is going to be the Democrats’ excuse for the inexcusable “Fast & Furious” operation conducted by ATF on the Obama administration’s watch.

On the Obama administration’s watch. That is the biggest problem with the Democrats’ strategy. Fast & Furious did not begin until 2009, months after the end of the Bush administration. Given that, one might think that even today’s Democrats would be unable with a straight face to lay this disaster at the feet of Obama’s predecessor. But then one wouldn’t know today’s Democrats.

The key to their strategy is conflating two very different programs: Operation Fast & Furious and a Bush era ATF initiative known as “Operation Wide Receiver.”

F&F Keeps Getting Worse

Re:It's not Entrapment.

[cold fjord]

You missed a great opportunity there. The post contains specific facts that are fairly easily checked. You could have easily provided either a better source or tried to provide new facts to try and show they are wrong (good luck). Instead you called names and whined about the sources.

Since you don't like Fox News (which I don't cite) I'll throw you a bone. . . maybe you'll like this.