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Twitter Rejects Prosecutors' Subpoena For a User's Data Without Warrant

Sparrowvsrevolution writes "In defense of user privacy, Twitter filed a motion (PDF) yesterday in a New York state court asking a judge to block a subpoena that would force the company to turn over the data of one of its users, Malcolm Harris. Harris was arrested in an Occupy Wall Street protest on the Brooklyn Bridge in October for 'disorderly conduct.' The company's lawyers claim that the subpoena violates the fourth amendment and Twitter's terms of service, which says that users' tweets belong to them and thus can't be handed over to law enforcement without their consent."

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  1. Re:Sounds nice by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's fine. This is what due process is all about.

  2. Get a Warrant by Local+ID10T · · Score: 5, Informative

    But they will just come back with a warrant and make it 'difficult' for twitter.

    No. that will not make it difficult for Twitter. That will protect Twitter.

    Complying with a warrant provides legal grounds for Twitter to act. Giving out information without one opens Twitter up to lawsuits.

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    1. Re:Get a Warrant by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      It's not the *correct* way to get information, though.

      A person can be forced by subpoena to testify. They can be forced to produce their own documents, or documents they created for others. They cannot be forced by subpoena to provide other people's documents that the other people wrote for themselves. That requires a warrant, which has a higher standard.

  3. Re:Sounds nice by geekmux · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That's fine. This is what due process is all about.

    Uh, due process? OK, how about root cause? Let's start at step one and answer the relevancy between someones private communications and a charge of disorderly conduct. What, are all OWS detainees winning the grand prize of an FBI file? Are they now considered domestic terrorists?

    Kudos to Twitter and recognizing due process, but it is the least of our concerns here.

  4. Re:Sounds nice by Local+ID10T · · Score: 4, Informative

    Subpoenas are issued by the clerk of the court at the discretion of the attorneys involved.

    Warrants are issued by judges.

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  5. Re:Sounds nice by Samantha+Wright · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The secret is in the reading of TFA. Twitter's angry that the subpoena claims that Harris has no right to challenge it. The only circumstance allowed by the Stored Communications Act under which the subpoena is filed in which this right can be withheld is if Harris has "no proprietary interest in the content," which is patent bullocks and makes no sense. Officially the subpoena is being made by the prosecution in anticipation of a particular defence; by contrast I do believe a warrant requires suspicion of guilt before it can be issued. It's also very, very unnecessarily broad, and hence blatantly meant to fish for incriminating materials.

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  6. Re:Sounds nice by __aaqvdr516 · · Score: 4, Interesting

    TFA gives some pretty compelling reasons.

    1. that the data belongs to Harris under Twitterâ(TM)s terms of service, and handing it over would violate both those terms of service and the SCA.

    2. it argues that handing over Harrisâ(TM)s data would violate the Fourth Amendmentâ(TM)s protections against searches without a warrant, which it argues applies even when the government is seeking information about allegedly public activities like a userâ(TM)s tweets.

    3. it points out that Twitter is in California, and argues that the New York prosecutors need to make their case to a California court to obtain Twitterâ(TM)s data.

    All seem like valid arguments to quash a subpoena to me.

  7. Re:Sounds nice by cusco · · Score: 4, Interesting

    What, are all OWS detainees winning the grand prize of an FBI file? Are they now considered domestic terrorists?

    Pretty much every protester is considered a possible terrorist by the gov't today, and it's likely that most of the OWS protesters went in with the assumption that they were going to get a file opened on them. All the ones that I've met did anyway (most of them probably already had one though, so they might not be representative).

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  8. Re:Half right by Americano · · Score: 5, Informative

    Because the user has deleted all of his tweets before February 2012.

    The prosecution believes that his tweets (including those deleted) will contradict his "anticipated defense" - specifically, that he was induced or forced to step onto the roadway by police, rather than stepping out onto the roadway of his own volition, and obstructing traffic. For instance, if they can show he tweeted a photo of himself and some other protesters dancing around in the roadway minutes before he was arrested, it sort of torpedoes the "The police threw me into the street!" defense.

    The reasoning the court is using in supporting the subpoena (by rejecting the defendant's motion to invalidate it) is that the records are akin to bank records - they are *about* the user, but the user has neither possession nor a "proprietary" interest in those records - in other words, the records belong to the bank, and so a subpoena is sufficient for the bank to turn over records about the defendant. Given Twitter's terms of service (granting them a worldwide irrevocable license to reproduce, present and display... etc. etc.... your tweets) and the precedent of bank records, the judge has ruled that the defendant has no standing to challenge the validity of the subpoena.

    You can read the full order here, and it goes into fairly deep detail about the issue, and is a fairly straightforward read.

  9. Re:I might stop hating Twitter now by interval1066 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter is most deffinately doing The Right Thing here.

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  10. Re:Sounds nice by oxdas · · Score: 4, Informative

    First, per the Twitter terms of service, all communication is the property of the user and NOT Twitter. Twitter is arguing that it can't surrender what it doesn't own without a warrant. Think of it like this. I open a safe deposit box at my local bank. If the government wants access to property in the box, then is a subpoena to the bank enough? Twitter is in essence claiming they are like the bank; a repository and conduit, nothing more. (for safe deposit boxes, a subpoena will get you the paperwork about the box, but not inside it)

    Secondly, Twitter is saying that the government needs a warrant for this information under the Fourth Amendment.

    Third, Twitter is saying that if New York prosecutors want access to Twitter information, they need to file in Twitter's home state of California.

    There is a lot of unsettled law in moving from the physical to the digital world. The government is arguing that many rights from the physical world don't translate to the digital one, Twitter disagrees.

  11. Re:Sounds nice by Jah-Wren+Ryel · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Pretty much every protester is considered a possible terrorist by the gov't today, and it's likely that most of the OWS protesters went in with the assumption that they were going to get a file opened on them.

    And we are back to the 60s again when the FBI used to send people into churchs and other gatherings of non-violent organizations in order to spy on, and sometimes screw with, them. COINTELPRO shit. Pretty sad it only took ~35 years for them to start pulling the same stunts. We have some really short institutional memory.

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  12. Re:Sounds nice by Americano · · Score: 4, Informative

    And the actual motion explains some pretty compelling reasons why the subpoena went forward:

    1) That Mr. Harris had to agree to Twitter's terms of service to have an account;
    2) That the terms of service grant Twitter the following:

    By submitting, posting or displaying Content on or through the Services, you grant us a worldwide, non-exclusive, royalty-free license to use, copy, reproduce, process, adapt, modify, publish, transmit, display and distribute such Content in any and all media or distribution methods (now known or later developed).

    The essential argument is that since the user is granting Twitter that license to his tweets, the user has no "proprietary" (ownership) interest in the tweets, because by posting, he specifically gives up his right to prevent Twitter from doing anything they wish with that tweet he's submitted. In essence, they conclude that he's "given away" his tweet to Twitter via that license, and that he therefore has no standing to claim that it is "his property" which may not be disclosed by Twitter without his permission.

  13. Re:Sounds nice by SnapaJones · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A police state? Perhaps not. A corrupt government? Definitely. TSA, Patriot Act, "for the children" excuses left and right, free speech zones, NDAA, completely idiotic wars...

  14. Re:Sounds nice by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Except that a subpoena _IS_ due process...

    As is contesting one. Civilized men settle their differences in courts of law.

    Government: "Hand it over!"
    Twitter: "No."
    Both: "Rather than the government breaking out the tanks, and Twitter breaking out the Molotovs, why don't we just ask a judge how we should resolve this?"

    Trial by observing the ritual combat of lawyers beats the hell out of the alternative.

  15. Re:Sounds nice by Qzukk · · Score: 4, Informative

    The FBI has nothing to do all day long but assemble files on people who are not suspected of nything.

    http://emptywheel.firedoglake.com/2011/03/26/are-95-of-people-investigated-under-new-guidelines-innocent-but-entered-into-database/

    They obviously have time to spare on ...

    a report of a suspicious car that included no license plate number. Such tips are entered into its computer system even if there is no way to follow up on them.

    Check, your move.

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  16. Re:Sounds nice by lexsird · · Score: 4, Insightful

    One might argue that Booth considered himself a patriot, is what the sig is saying I think.

    When does anyone wake up and consider themselves a proper villain? I doubt even Hitler thought of himself as a villain.

    History determines who is the villain and who is the patriot. The victors write history. Some philosophers might are argue that there is no "right or wrong", just different points of view. The matter seems highly subjective, yet ironically, it's insisted upon being objective by everyone.

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  17. Re:Sounds nice by pdabbadabba · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I've never understood people who suggest that assigning moral blame is simply the victors prerogative, as though nobody else would have an opinion. If this were the case, history would not contain episodes of "victor"-villainization. But they're actually really easy to find. In the U.S. alone, and just off the top of my head, we have slavery, genocide (or close to it) of the native americans, japanese internment, segregation, the Mai Lai massacre...the list goes on. No, I think it is cear that people can detect right from wrong (if only very imperfectly) no matter how the victor spins it. (Of course, suppressing information may be a problem; but it's a different one from the mater of moral relativism you're talking about.)