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London Hacked Its Own Traffic Lights To Make Sure It Got the Olympics

bmsleight writes "Does it count as a hack if you change your own system? Vanity Fair report that during the bidding process for the 2012 Olympic and Paralympic Games, the London Streets Traffic Control Center followed each vehicle using CCTV, 'and when they came up to traffic lights,' [bid committee CEO Keith] Mills said, 'we turned them green.'"

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  1. Reminds me of the Italian Job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    ...except without all the crashes and explosions and mini-coopers with gold bricks in them.

    1. Re:Reminds me of the Italian Job by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      They are talking about the "bidding process". What makes you think there where no mini-coopers with gold bricks involved?

      But personally, i'd prefer a mini-cooper with a Charlise over the gold bricks anyway...

  2. standard operating procedure by Swampash · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Every Olympic bid since Sydney's bid for the 2000 games has done the same. This isn't anything new.

  3. Using CCTV by BeerCat · · Score: 5, Interesting

    using CCTV to change traffic lights (apart from showing just how widespread the coverage in London is) is almost minor compared to some of the other bid stunts - they took the motorcade through the (at that time, not yet opened) railway tunnels from St Pancras to Stratford, as if to demonstrate how easy it was to get to the Olympic site - provided you didn't see any of that "get in the way" stuff. Like the city...

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    1. Re:Using CCTV by asdf7890 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      The bit that gets me riled is that to even be permitted to bid we had to create legislation protecting the commercial interests of the little jamboree we are funding this year.

      Since I learned that I went from keeping my disinterest to myself and just not paying any attention to the proceedings to actively telling people that fact (people tend to either be shocked or simply refuse to believe it) and making sure I know who the sponsors are (aside from us tax payers that it) so when I have a choice between two products I pick the one that isn't involved in the thing.

      (Petty, yes, but in the absence of decent victories to speak of I enjoy my petty little stabs.)

  4. It's not "hacking". by Alex+Belits · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's "Potemkin village".

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  5. All's fair by __aaltlg1547 · · Score: 5, Informative

    I consider this fair play.

    fact, this is one of the capabilities that the Olympic Committee should specifically look for. The ability of a city to dynamically change its traffic lights and alter traffic flow to deal with a special situation is an important one in a city hosting an major event like this. It means that if they manage it properly, they can reduce congestion around the site, get atheletes and fans in and out quicker and have a better chance of having everything go on schedule. It's also a safety issue. If there are emergencies (and there always are when you have that many people in one place) you can get emergency vehicles in and out quickly.

    London can probably do this better than most cities in the world because of its Big Brother system of pervasive security cameras. The cameras can be used for good, too, if they use them to reduce traffic congestion, detect that the crowd is starting to leave the event so they can begin adapting the traffic flow before people even leave the parking lot, etc.

  6. Emergencies and little people by betterunixthanunix · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The little people get to wait for the important people -- like the Olympic committee, or in the future perhaps anyone with enough money -- when the city changes its traffic patterns for them. After all, it is not really equality if the important people have to wait for red lights just like everyone else, right?

    As for emergency vehicles, I live in a small city right now that manages to give them green lights without a special CCTV system. Each traffic light has a sensor that detects sirens/flashers and changes the light appropriately; it may sound surprising, but this is actually a reliable, well-engineered system.

    We have big events here too -- the college football team's games draw big crowds from neighboring towns. CCTV is not needed for that either; police can simply disable traffic lights at appropriate locations and direct traffic as needed. Perhaps this is more than London could be expected to do, given how large of a city they are, but somehow I doubt it -- they have a much larger police force than we have.

    Really, the benefit of the CCTV system for traffic control is overstated here. What London is really showing the world is that when important people are in their city, they can give those people priority as if they were an emergency vehicle, and they can do so discretely. People might complain if police officers started waving through businessmen and politicians, but nobody can complain about the light changing, and there is no need for rich people to attach flashers to their cars.

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  7. Re:Good reason not to go there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Brits? As in we, the people? Do you honestly think we asked to be spied upon? Protip: Nobody here really gives a crap about the Olympic games. It's been made a mockery of all over the media for wasting public money and for the fact that we're hosting the events and nobody actually knows anybody else that's allowed to go. It's going to cause mass disruption to the transport systems for millions of commuters, not to mention the mess the visitors themselves are going to make, and it's also predicited that the majority of new buildings and structures being created for this joke of an event will go to waste as soon as it's over.

    So I ask you again... do you truly believe that the British public volunteered to be spied on, just to increase the odds of having this happen to them? If you're talking specifically about the government, please say so, but I can guarantee ours isn't that much different to anyone elses.

  8. Re:Can you imagine the marketing possibilities? by _Shad0w_ · · Score: 5, Funny

    You can already pay to drive over the limit, it's called a fine :)

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  9. Re:Good reason not to go there... by BasilBrush · · Score: 5, Informative

    Americans that never venture out of America tend to think a free national health service is a terrible thought. Americans that actually come and live in Britain tend to realise quite quickly how good it is and come to love the NHS like the natives do.

    It's the difference between ignorant and worldly wise.

  10. Re:Good reason not to go there... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Increasingly, it's the difference actually getting proper healthcare and dying because you can't afford the treatment or preventative care you need.

  11. Re:Congestion nightmare without hacking it? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny
    Traffic for Londoners and visitors will be a nightmare

    It already is. Last week Tuesday, the A406 was closed for 24 hours because of an accident. This happened very close to the Olympic park. The emergency services have no plan at all for handling traffic accidents which are absolutely certain to happen, however, they have Rapier missiles (what could possibly go wrong?) in case of terrorist attacks! and sonic cannons in case of Somali Pirates (we have a few rivers, and quite a lot of Somali run Internet cafes in East London, so it is not impossible one of them may launch a ship-born act of piracy on the Olympics, but I think the take-away food is probably a bigger risk.