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Microsoft-Funded Startup Aims To Kill BitTorrent Traffic
TheGift73 writes "The Russian based 'Pirate Pay' startup is promising the entertainment industry a pirate-free future. With help from Microsoft, the developers have built a system that claims to track and shut down the distribution of copyrighted works on BitTorrent. Their first project, carried out in collaboration with Walt Disney Studios and Sony Pictures, successfully stopped tens of thousands of downloads. Hollywood, software giants and the major music labels see BitTorrent as one of the largest threats to their business. Billions in revenue are lost each year, they claim. But not for long if the Russian based startup 'Pirate Pay' has its way. The company has developed a technology which allows them to attack existing BitTorrent swarms, making it impossible for people to share files."
casual piracy really is hurting the industry.
Lots of "people" say this, but the evidence is lacking.
Net neutrality only concerns ISP's, not service or third parties.
"The company doesnâ(TM)t reveal how it works, but they appear to be flooding clients with fake information, masquerading as legitimate peers."
All it would take is for a client to verify to data in the chunk (probably by it's MD5 or SHA), and if it's busted then try and download it again from the same peer. If it fails the second time then just ban the peer.
But I imagine they already do this, don't they?
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Downloaded the blocklists for Pirate Pay as well as the antip2p blocklists.
I tested on a poisoned swarm that had listed 5000 seeders (which were mostly mediadefender and pirate pay poisoners)
Peerblock dumped over 4500 of the poisoned seeds from the torrent by blocking them and my torrent speed went from 20K/s download to 2500-3000K/s download
So for companies like this I highly recommend picking up Peerblock and getting some blocklists, especially the antip2p blocklists.
http://www.peerblock.com/
Never ever again have problem with companies like Mediadefender or PiratePay and their ilk.
This service doesn't appear to be listening into BT chat between two parties. It is joining existing swarms and spreading misinformation to the swarm to confuse clients into halting their downloads.
“We used a number of servers to make a connection to each and every P2P client that distributed this film. Then Pirate Pay sent specific traffic to confuse these clients about the real IP-addresses of other clients and to make them disconnect from each other,” Andrei Klimenko says.
If they're attacking computers without authorization, they're in breach of all kinds of criminal law. It doesn't matter if those computers are participating in infringing or not. Sounds all kinds of illegal, at least in the US.
GCS/MU/P d- s:- a-- C++++$ UL++ P+ L++ E+ W++ N o K- w--- O M+ V- PS+++ PE Y+ PGP t+ 5- X R++ tv+ b++ DI++ D++ G+ e++ h-
I use to watch lots of movies using Amazon, Netflix, buy my own, and other sources. Now I just don't watch movies. Netflix stinks and when I want to watch something on Amazon it's usually a 48hour pre-release rental. Ugh, no, I'd like to watch it now, thanks. I decided the easiest thing to do was just not watch anymore. I listen to lots of music and purchase lots of music because Google Play makes it friction-less. I also read a ton now. I doubt that's the goal of the MPAA but they make it to damn difficult.
The BitTorrent protocol will be reworked to neutralize this crap, but in the meantime someone gets to make an awful lot of money selling ultimately worthless software to the *AA clowns. BitTorrent is made stronger, the MafIAA has a little less money, and someone else profits handsomely at their expense.
Win-win all around.
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1: use encrypted peers
2: use a block list to avoid contacting known tainted peers.
3: if the torrents go down, resume downloading via usenet binary forums
4: continual attacks on the open Internet will just drive it into a new darknet.
The signal wants to be free 8)
And I 100% agree with the oatmeal. If they would sell it to me DRM free, I'd buy it.
The MPAA's five years of consecutive record profits don't help with the evidence either.
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Actually playsforsure (or PFS) worked quite well and was VERY popular, especially with the "all you can eat" style music sites where you would often get 10 to 15 downloads plus access to the entire catalog for $10 a month. simply plug in your device once a month and load up, hell most even had lists based on genre so that you could catch up on the latest tunes of your favorite style or hear artists you may not have heard in your area.
The problem with PFS is that Steve Ballmer is a MASSIVE dipshit and makes the Pepsi guy at Apple look like Steve Jobs so he said "Herp Derp, apple has a player and controls their market so WE must have a player and control OUR market! Ask Toshiba how much they want for the gigabeat, and can they make it shit brown?" and thus the Zune was born and completely killed all the work that had gone into PFS and the large communities that had sprung up around it, thus proving it is ALWAYS possible to snatch defeat from the jaws of victory.
So personally I'm all for totally retarded dumbshit moves like this, because when Win 8 becomes such a billion dollar failwhale it gets added to that list with the CueCat and Realplayer as a "WTF were they smoking?" even being gates little buddy hopefully won't save him and they'll punt his stupid ass like a 30 yard field return. Remember this is the dumbass that gave us Zune, Kin, X360 rushed out with a fatal hardware flaw, GFLW, WinCE, paying an insane amount of Yahoo Search, paying ANOTHER insane amount to Nokia only to hang them out to dry with WinPhone 7 not having an upgrade path to Win 8, hell the man's resume is one failure after another.
if anyone needed proof that a piss poor CEO could run even the largest corp right off the cliff look no further, here is Steve Ballmer. stupid shit like TFA has been part and parcel of Ballmer's reign at MSFT and I have NO doubt that history will look at him as one of the worst CEOs, right up there with Mcbride and the retard at HP that spent all that money for WebOS.
ACs don't waste your time replying, your posts are never seen by me.
filestube is more or less a "parked domain" style aggregating site, providing search results from out of their ass straight to places that will infect you with malware disguised as legitimate products.
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That already happens - if a peer is found to be sending frequent chunks that fail the hash then the client automatically blocks it and knows it is unreliable. The BT protocol is already pretty good at detecting and routing around poisoned seeds/peers.
Assuming that there's at least one good seed in the swarm, all this will do is slow down the time it takes to complete a file and more wasted chunks/more hashfails.
The movie industry could take a page from the music industry's book. All of that poisoning of p2p networks did nothing to slow down music piracy. What really made a difference was offering a product that people wanted to buy at a reasonable price: DRM-free tracks in good quality for a sensible price. Give people what they want and they will buy it, even in the presence of "free". The music industry learnt this (albeit by being dragged kicking and screaming into the future) and are now reaping the benefits. The movie industry is not there yet - the difference between the two sides of the iTunes store, for example, is quite telling. Enormously expensive DRM-crippled videos on one side, that are not even price competitive with DVD and BluRays in stores, vs cheap, DRM-free, high quality music files on the other that are selling like hot cakes.
And yet, you would be wrong. At least in Texas.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Horn_shooting_controversy
The arguments for a very short copyright were all out there in 1841, in a powerful speech to the British House of Commons by Thomas Babington Macaulay:
http://www.baen.com/library/palaver4.htm
Every single argument is still valid today.
Gravitation is a theory, not a fact.