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Microsoft Wins US Import Ban On Motorola's Android Devices

jbrodkin writes "The U.S. International Trade Commission today ordered an import ban on Motorola Mobility Android products, agreeing with Microsoft that the devices infringe a Microsoft patent on 'generating meeting requests' from a mobile device. The import ban stems from a December ruling that the Motorola Atrix, Droid, and Xoom (among 18 total devices) infringed the patent, which Microsoft says is related to Exchange ActiveSync technology. Today, the ITC said in a 'final determination of violation' (PDF) that 'the appropriate form of relief in this investigation is a limited exclusion order prohibiting the unlicensed entry for consumption of mobile devices, associated software and components thereof covered by ... United States Patent No. 6,370,566 and that are manufactured abroad by or on behalf of, or imported by or on behalf of, Motorola.' Motorola (which is being acquired by Google) was the last major Android device maker not to pay off Microsoft in a patent licensing deal. Microsoft has already responded to the decision, saying it hopes Motorola will now reconsider."

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  1. Re:Justice was fairly served by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    If you cannot do business honestly, don't do it at all.

    Yeah, if Microsoft were held to that particular standard they would have been out of business a long time ago.

  2. Generating meeting requests? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Are you f'ing kidding me? The inmates really are running the asylum.

    1. Re:Generating meeting requests? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Please read the whole summary carefully:
      from a mobile device

      These 4 words let you rehash any old shit into a patent no matter how obvious.

  3. Re:Justice was fairly served by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 5, Informative

    It is time to step up and show Google the door. If you cannot do business honestly, don't do it at all.

    I'm not sure if you are trying to be sarcastic or not. I mean, remember, the other party to this suit is Microsoft.

    And oh by the way Google doesn't own Motorola yet, and did not own Motorola when the devices in question were designed. But don't let a little thing like facts get in the way of your shilling or trolling or whatever it is that you're doing.

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  4. Re:Justice was fairly served by andrew3 · · Score: 5, Funny

    Yes, because we all know Microsoft invented the smartphone... wait, what?

    Because we can all see how important Microsoft's smartphone inventions have been to the public, by the success of their phones. </sarcasm>

  5. Glad they found something important to ban by cvtan · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Once again - Generating Meeting Requests? That's certainly a good reason to ban a product. That's all I use my phone for!

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  6. Why the google hate? by firesyde424 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Last time I looked(a few seconds ago), Motorola was being sued, not Google. Google was not even thinking about buying Motorola when those devices were made. So how is this Google hate even relevant?

  7. And the solution is... by roc97007 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    ...don't use Exchange. Then you don't have to have a feature on your mobile device that will generate appointments for it. Problem solved.

    If you're currently using Exchange, perhaps now is the time to think about using a cloud service for email.

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  8. The patent by hawguy · · Score: 5, Informative

    Here's the patent in question:

    http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=L-ELAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,370,566

    The present invention includes a mobile device which provides the user with the ability to schedule a meeting request from the mobile device itself. The mobile device creates an object representative of the meeting request and assigns the object a global identification number which uniquely identifies the object to other devices which encounter the object. In addition, the mobile device in accordance with one aspect of the present invention provides a property in the object which is indicative of whether the meeting request has already been transmitted. In this way, other devices which encounter the meeting request are capable of identifying it as a unique meeting request, and of determining whether the meeting request has already been transmitted, in order to alleviate the problem of duplicate meeting request transmissions.

    Is that really patentable? Assigning a unique ID to a meeting request to alleviate duplicate requests? How can that not be obvious to someone "skilled in the art"?

    Is there any other solution that's more obvious? "Hey Joe, I keep getting duplicate meeting requests from your Palm Pilot. Oh noooooos! Hey, I know, I'll send each meeting request in a different color, then if you get two purple ones you'll know it's a dupe".

    1. Re:The patent by Dcnjoe60 · · Score: 5, Interesting

      Here's the patent in question:

      http://www.google.com/patents/about?id=L-ELAAAAEBAJ&dq=6,370,566

      The present invention includes a mobile device which provides the user with the ability to schedule a meeting request from the mobile device itself. The mobile device creates an object representative of the meeting request and assigns the object a global identification number which uniquely identifies the object to other devices which encounter the object. In addition, the mobile device in accordance with one aspect of the present invention provides a property in the object which is indicative of whether the meeting request has already been transmitted. In this way, other devices which encounter the meeting request are capable of identifying it as a unique meeting request, and of determining whether the meeting request has already been transmitted, in order to alleviate the problem of duplicate meeting request transmissions.

      Is that really patentable? Assigning a unique ID to a meeting request to alleviate duplicate requests? How can that not be obvious to someone "skilled in the art"?

      Is there any other solution that's more obvious? "Hey Joe, I keep getting duplicate meeting requests from your Palm Pilot. Oh noooooos! Hey, I know, I'll send each meeting request in a different color, then if you get two purple ones you'll know it's a dupe".

      Better yet, it is so vague that probably every laptop and table is also in violation of it, well every laptop and tablet not running Windows (ie Apple). My old palm pilot is also probably in violation, too.

  9. The claims by DeadCatX2 · · Score: 5, Insightful

    FTFA: claims 1, 2, 5, or 6 of the United States Patent No. 6,370,566

    FTFP:

    1. A mobile device, comprising:

            an object store;
            an application program configured to maintain objects on the object store;
            a user input mechanism configured to receive user input information;
            a synchronization component configured to synchronize individual objects stored on the object store with remote objects stored on a remote object store;
            a communications component configured to communicate with a remote device containing the remote object store; and
            wherein the application program is further configured to generate a meeting object and an electronic mail scheduling request object based on the user input information.

    2. The mobile device of claim 1 wherein the application program is configured to generate the meeting object with a global identifier property uniquely identifying the meeting object among a plurality of other objects.

    5. The mobile device of claim 1 wherein the application program further comprises:

            a contacts application program configured to maintain objects on the object store indicative of contact information wherein the contact information includes address information indicative of a fully qualified electronic mail addresses for individuals identified by the contact information; and
            wherein the application program is configured to obtain the fully qualified electronic mail address of potential attendees identified by the contact information by interaction with the contacts application program.

    6. The mobile device of claim 1 wherein the application program is configured to generate the meeting object and the electronic mail scheduling request object such that properties of the objects are compatible with at least a second application program associated with the remote object store and different from the application program.

    Claim 1: A mobile device.

    Claim 2: Using a GUID.

    Claim 5: And an address book.

    Claim 6: Which talks to a remote server.

    ...

    We're fucking doomed.

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  10. Can anyone reading this story by circletimessquare · · Score: 5, Insightful

    not think that patents are utterly useless and absurd?

    The "invention" in question is laughable beyond belief.

    The defendent and plaintiff are mutlinational corporations. Not a little guy that needs protecting.

    How do the lawyers whose lifework is this nonsense make sense of their lives? At the end of the day, in your old age, what is the value of your life's work? Did you make anything? Did you help anyone? Or did you shuffle words around a disgusting nonsensical argument foisted on some other lawyers for the sake of absurd privations? What a completely and utterly useless and despicable existence.

    Why do we as a society tolerate this useless sideshow? Oh, because of all the money involved, right.

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  11. Re:Justice was fairly served by ackthpt · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you cannot do business honestly, don't do it at all.

    Yeah, if Microsoft were held to that particular standard they would have been out of business a long time ago.

    Microsoft has hardly been an innovator. I wonder who they bought the patent from.

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  12. Re:Justice was fairly served by man_the_king · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Story - Microsoft Wins US Import Ban On Motorola's Android Devices - Posted by Soulskill on Friday May 18, @05:38PM .
    First comment praising Microsoft - a properly worded, properly paragraphed, properly punctuated, comment, with a link with description - all of this taking up a 100 words not including punctuation - Posted by kdps (2642743) on Friday May 18, @05:38PM .

  13. Patent office should be held responsible by Grieviant · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Generating meeting requests? Seriously, how the fuck is that an innovation that someone skilled in the art would not be able to come up with? It's time the patent office was held responsible for enabling patent trolling by lowering the bar to the ground. How about a system where any patent that ends up being overturned requires the patent office to pay the associated legal fees? You'd need a 3rd party to conduct the reexaminations to avoid conflict of interest, but it might do something to stem the tide of handing out junk patents like penny candy.

  14. Microsoft scores own goal in Moto patent battle by symbolset · · Score: 5, Interesting

    Let's look at what Microsoft won and lost here.

    Eight of the nine patents in suit are rendered useless. As soon as the last one is worked around, nine of nine. Everybody will work now to avoid these litigious patents. Microsoft's licensing strategy is to not reveal the patents at all because they can be worked around.

    They don't get the $15 per device license fees, in perpetuity, they wanted.

    Moto has to pay $0.33 per device, and only on the few devices found to infringe, and might actually get that money back if they bother to try. But regardless they save $14.67 per device - and that's just starting now. They don't pay any back money for prior devices.

    Moto and Google have probably already worked around this patent and the cure is in testing. Once it's applied the net cost to Moto goes back to zero until the next time.

    By successfully suing Moto for using Microsoft's patented Exchange API, they've recommitted to a course of prevention of interopability in a core Office product some had claimed was behind them. Way to go! We get to bring this up every time someone tries to say things have changed, or you should use some Microsoft technology and it will be OK (Mono, C#, and so on).

    They don't get to cross-license Moto patents, ever. Moto has a LOT of patents.

    Moto gets to be bitter and sue them back over every single thing they can, like H.264 patents, wireless patents and so on. Microsoft has to drop the DVD codecs from Windows 8, for example.

    Everybody else who's paying Microsoft for Android gets to see that it is more economical to fight than to pay. Moto gets a $15 per device cost advantage on their Android devices, the better to compete with.

    In return Microsoft may have earned the princely sum of One MILLION dollars, less lawyer expenses. (Based on 3 million devices imported before the issue is sorted out.)

    Way to go guys! That's how you win in the digital age. Keep doing stuff like this and you'll earn your just reward.

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