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Canadian Agency Investigates US Air Crash

knorthern knight writes "When 2 light civilian planes collide in U.S. airspace in Virginia, the usual response includes calling in the FAA (Federal Aviation Administration) and NTSB (National Transportation Safety Board) to investigate and make recommendations based on their results. But what do you do when the crash involves two planes piloted by a crash investigator with the FAA and the chief medical officer with the NTSB? In order to avoid conflict of interest by American investigators working for these agencies, the investigation has been turned over to to the Transportation Safety Board of Canada as a neutral 3rd party."

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  1. Amazing! by amiga3D · · Score: 5, Insightful

    A rare moment of common sense for an American agency. I didn't think it possible.

    1. Re:Amazing! by Rosco+P.+Coltrane · · Score: 5, Funny

      Yeah, it's aboot time.

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    2. Re:Amazing! by FrootLoops · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The GP sees a rational decision, you see collusion, and I see paranoia mixed with stupidity--yours, not the agencies'. Either the FAA and NTSB called Canada honestly wanting to avoid conflicts of interest, or they just wanted it to appear that they were avoiding a conflict of interest while secretly getting Canadian investigators to cover something up. Of course in this second scenario their fake out brilliantly brought lots of extra publicity to the story. You know, which is exactly what you want when you're covering something up. /sigh

      Have mod point distribution rules changed recently or something? This is the third completely overrated post I've seen recently.

    3. Re:Amazing! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If it was China, it would be where ever it landed. I mean, they buried the train and evidence of the crash a mere 24 hours after the event. Surely there might've been a few more survivors there. http://articles.cnn.com/2011-07-25/world/china.train.accident.outrage_1_bullet-train-wang-yongping-railway-ministry?_s=PM:WORLD

  2. Re:"But what do you do?" (NB: Not a trolling attem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Most likely, they can investigate it impartially and come with a neutral conclusions. However, they don't want to take the slightest risk that someone tries to protect, whether conciously or not, their boss, co-worker or underling. Even worse, someone may have a score to settle with one of the people involved. Finally, even if the organization would know everything and manage to carefully pick someone who has nothing to do in any way with the people involved, an outside observer could still claim that the investiagation may not have been impartial. What they did if the right thing and what every organization in a similar situation should have done.

  3. Re:"But what do you do?" (NB: Not a trolling attem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's not that they can't be objective, it's that we shouldn't be putting them in a situation to have to choose. Like it or not, we're still human, and the emotional tendency to loyalty shouldn't have to be tested.

    It's much the same as judicial refusal. It's entirely likely that the judge could be impartial, but for any cse where they might have an interest, they step aside. That's not an indication of thirld world status...that's acknowledging that we're human, and dealing with it.

  4. Re:"But what do you do?" (NB: Not a trolling attem by c · · Score: 5, Insightful

    > You assume the FAA and NTSB can investigate the incident objectively?

    It's not really a question of whether they can or can't, but whether they can appear to do it objectively. That's a lot tougher; the average person just plain assumes that organizations don't investigate their own people in an unbiased fashion.

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  5. Re:"But what do you do?" (NB: Not a trolling attem by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    You do realize there are all of about 600 of us working in the US who have been trained in any aspect of accident investigation, and like all but 30, I'm in the military.