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Finding the Downside In San Francisco's Tech Boom

snydeq writes "The NYTimes reports on the San Francisco's shifting socio-economic landscape thanks to a massive influx of tech workers and tax and regulation breaks to big-name startups. 'In a city often regarded as unfriendly to business, Mayor Edwin M. Lee, elected last year with the tech industry's strong backing, has aggressively courted start-ups. But this boom has also raised fears about the tech industry's growing political clout and its spillover economic effects. Apartment rents have soared to record highs as affordable housing advocates warn that a new wave of gentrification will price middle-class residents out of the city. At risk, many say, are the very qualities that have drawn generations of outsiders here, like the city's diversity and creativity. Families, black residents, artists and others will increasingly be forced across the bridge to Oakland, they warn.'"

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  1. So what they're really saying is... by pellik · · Score: 5, Insightful

    That this is also an economic boon for Oakland.

  2. Complain, complain..... by cpu6502 · · Score: 4, Insightful

    First they complained because of "suburb flight" where affluent persons moved to the suburbs and left-behind a poor base in the city.

    Now they are complaining that the affluent people are moving back in.
    I wish they'd make up their mind.
    Do they want the upper/middle incomes to leave the city, or stay in the city? Either way, it appears they will wine about it.

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    My AC stalker: " I personally agree with your posts most of the time, but that won't keep me from modding you troll"
    1. Re:Complain, complain..... by phantomfive · · Score: 5, Insightful

      And let's be honest, San Francisco isn't exactly priced for 'middle-class residents.' Unless you don't mind sharing a studio, it's expensive to live there.

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      "First they came for the slanderers and i said nothing."
    2. Re:Complain, complain..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Who wants all those well paid, self sufficient people around? What good are people who can't be put into government servitude to the sociopaths in office?

      And I love the stealth racism in the summary. Successful people moving in means no black people, or simply that a successful, educated population can't be "diverse".

    3. Re:Complain, complain..... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

      Also I like how they act like the huge Asian population, including one of the biggest chinatowns in America, isn't "diversity".

  3. Nice summary by Quiet_Desperation · · Score: 5, Insightful

    So there's no way a successful and educated population can be diverse and creative. Got it. I do like to check in on ideologythink now and again.

    Why not report on the apparent boon that's coming Oakland's way, what with the tide of diverse and creative refugee artist families heading their way.

  4. as if they truly care about affordable housing.... by Shivetya · · Score: 5, Insightful

    it takes years to get any large structure built and while you read about politicians and community activist bemoaning the lack of affordable housing you never see real progress. Instead you get locals doing the classic NIMBY maneuver. Oh its fine and dandy if you build it OVER THERE!... which of course the over there crowd don't want it either. Lots of lip service and little action, the point being that the type of construction needed for truly affordable and sustainable housing is not the type that occurs.

    then there is the whole concept of what affordable housing really means.

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  5. The East Bay is totally cool. by pigiron · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's more laid back and the Berkeley/Oakland hills are backed up by thousands of acres of parks and undeveloped reservoir land. Plus both the views and the weather are better. And you can get into the city in a matter of minutes plus have a shorter drive to Tahoe and Yosemite.

  6. Booms are unsustainable. by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "Overspecialize, and you breed in weakness." - Major Motoko Kusanagi

    This situation probably sounds like something somewhere on the scale from no big deal to f'in great if you are a 20-30 something temporarily occupying that space between overpaying employer and overcharging rentier.

    Meanwhile, cities can not sustain themselves on these kind of demographic patterns. Cities need all kinds of people working at all income levels to work efficiently. Banishing the working poor to the hinterlands drives up costs (commuting). It also perverts the perspectives of those living on either side of the tracks, where the motivations and plights of each other become alien, leading to misunderstanding and unnecessary tensions.

    Sooner or later, these booms become busts or the underlying social structure collapses, leaving dysfunction.

    What I want to know is how an industry that constantly sells itself on easy communication and reduced operational friction continues to centralize itself in a way that drives up its own costs of living and makes it physically vulnerable.

  7. Re:Why not just celebrate diversity? by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Diversity is all about which races you need to have to be diverse.

    Racial diversity is not what diversity is all about. Its also about differences that tend to break down on financial lines (though that is often just a coincidence of our societal priorities).

    A community where a 1400sq ft. house costs $1m has no place for people who devote their lives to educating children, caring for the victims of unpopular maladies like getting old or mental illness, or even ensuring that basic infrastructure is maintained and protected. When the providers of these services are not part of the community, they invisible to residents, the value that they provide is artificially diminished, as is their incentive to perform or even continue to provide services. This drives quality down, and the cost of raising quality up.

  8. Asians don't count for diversity by SuperKendall · · Score: 5, Insightful

    If you can't pretend to be a victim, you are not welcome as a participant in "diversity".

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    "There is more worth loving than we have strength to love." - Brian Jay Stanley
  9. Actually, they are saying something else by tlambert · · Score: 4, Insightful

    They are a New York paper complaining about a competing city getting all the high tech startups and therefore venture capital now that Wall Street has basically self-destructed the New York financial markets. Meanwhile the same paper is reporting that the jobs ax is going to fall again on the banking sector as upper level management throws middle management overboard in order to save their own bonuses: http://news.yahoo.com/wall-st-few-places-hide-jobs-ax-hovers-220146813--sector.html

    About the only thing that needs changing about San Francisco (and California, in general) is to not have Prop 13 apply to non-residential commercial properties. There would be a quick rebalancing in what gets built.

    -- Terry