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Intel To Launch TV Service With Facial Recognition By End of the Year

MojoKid writes "Despite television being a rather tough nut to crack, Intel is apparently hoping that its upcoming set-top box and subscription service will be its golden ticket to delivering more Intel processors to the living room. The service would be a sort of specialized virtual cable subscription that would combine a bundle of channels with on demand content. So what's Intel's killer feature that distinguishes it from the vast and powerful competition? Granular ratings that result in targeted ads. Intel is promising technology in a set-top box that can distinguish who is watching, potentially allowing Intel to target advertising. The technology could potentially identify if the viewer is an adult or a child, male or female, and so on, through interactive features and face recognition technology."

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  1. The marketing dweeb bastards won't quit by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Interesting

    The marketing dweeb bastards won't quit until they force us all to wear burkas or Guy Faulks masks.

    1. Re:The marketing dweeb bastards won't quit by bbecker23 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It's worse than that. Imagine the enhanced DRM this would enable. "Sorry, We have detected more than the allotted number of audience members. Your account has been charged $9.99 per extra viewer."

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    2. Re:The marketing dweeb bastards won't quit by alanshot · · Score: 2

      It's worse than that. Imagine the enhanced DRM this would enable. "Sorry, We have detected more than the allotted number of audience members. Your account has been charged $9.99 per extra viewer."

      Or:
      "Sorry. John Q Public rented this video. You appear to be his wife, Sally V Public. If you wish to view this video John must be present or you must rent it again."

    3. Re:The marketing dweeb bastards won't quit by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 3, Funny

      We can only hope that a brave transvestite, a crack team of ACLU litigators, and the threat of public ridicule can save us from this dystopia...

    4. Re:The marketing dweeb bastards won't quit by Mitchell314 · · Score: 3, Informative

      Or the very cheap solution of duct tape. Which solves all problems, from broken tool handles to helicopters to any given international crisis. :P

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  2. 1984 much? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Because what we *really* need in the world is a TV that watches you...

    1. Re:1984 much? by Nexion · · Score: 4, Funny

      I hear in soviet Russia they've had this tech since the 80's. :P

    2. Re:1984 much? by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 2

      No, no, this is better...

      Telescreens, Pravda, and assorted dictators' gigantic golden statues and peculiar cults of personality(while undoubtedly dramatic) have the convenient tendency to collapse under the weight of their own inefficiency.

      We, in the free world, have had our profit-motivated-innovators tirelessly striving toward a world of constant surveillance, laughably misleading information substitutes, and vapid celebrity worship that is economically self sustaining. Indeed, quite handsomely profitable. Plus, it is much easier to handle upkeep when your citizens carefully charge their own wireless tracking modules and buy protective cases allowing them to be carried as often as possible, and demand to have their telescreens replaced when they break or are deemed insufficiently large for super bowl purposes. Such cooperation... Can you imagine how many threats of torture the Stasi would have had to use to get people to go to Best Buy?

  3. I wonder what it thinks my cats like by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So, a cat food commercial will be presented whenever one of my cats enters the room?

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    1. Re:I wonder what it thinks my cats like by arth1 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      No, your cats likely buy very little cat food.

      They'll already have your grocery bills, whether they be through paying with a card or by using a "rebate" card, so they'll already know that it's you who buy cat food, so they will show the ads when you enter the room.

      Oh, and that search you did for "pregnancy risk" the other day? Unencrypted through your cable modem, by the same provider as your cable TV? With a contract giving them a right to monitor all traffic? Expect to see a lot of diapers and baby food commercials for the next couple of years.

      Welcome to Ayn Rand's world. Please take a seat (great couch cleaning service starting at $5.99) and relax.

    2. Re:I wonder what it thinks my cats like by Rene+S.+Hollan · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I pay cash for cat food, so by seeing me the system will not know that I buy cat food. But, by seeing my cats, it could infer that I buy cat food.

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    3. Re:I wonder what it thinks my cats like by anubi · · Score: 2

      No, but it might be able to sense when you leave the room during a commercial...

      It would count that commercial as being undelivered and try, try, try again until it succeeds in delivering it.

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  4. wait by Fusen · · Score: 4, Insightful

    why would any customer want this?

    1. Re:wait by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

      people are idiots; they will trade their privacy for a 'goodie'.

      some goodie will be presented. discounts or some motivator. it will be very cheap and laughable but people will sell their souls for bullshit token items. ever see a stampede at trade shows for the give-aways that are 'cool' ? same deal, here.

      go to slickdeals (site) and watch how many people sign up for emailings from companies or will fill out lengthy forms to get a token piece of junk or a $10 discount on something. they'll give lots of info away and not even care. they'll justify it with 'but I'm getting this neat thing for free! its FREE. how can that be bad?'

      that is a prevalent form of modern thinking. at least in the consumer age (20's 30's).

      we already accept cameras at nearly every traffic light. in the UK, its more invasive than that. people tolerate loss of privacy.

      I weep for us, because we value it so little and are quickly willing to sell it out for virtually nothing. once gone, its gone, too.

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    2. Re:wait by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

      I'm sure that'll happen, just like paying for cable means TV is ad free.

    3. Re:wait by EdIII · · Score: 2

      Expectation of privacy has nothing to do with it.

      The younger crowd finds no value in it, or much worse, finds value in not having it.

      It's youthful idealism and naivety that leads them to these conclusions. One simply needs some exposure to history to see the risks, and exposure to fields of study like game theory to understand why even a little loss in privacy can have dramatic detrimental affects for society as a whole.

      The loss of privacy at this scale is quite unprecedented though. It is not all that surprising that the average person has a hard time figuring out just how dangerous it could be in the long term.

      Unfortunately, it will take some pretty harsh experience to educate them and hopefully pass the wisdom down to the next generations.

      That is of course assuming that we don't irreversibly damage the environment to the point that mere survival is all our future generations can think about.

  5. wear a mask by ozduo · · Score: 2, Insightful

    3d print your fathers face and kids will see adult content

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  6. Congratulations, Intel! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Interesting

    For zeroing in on what would instantly become the television industry's most hated product. Considering the industry as a whole, that is no small feat!

  7. Two words by NoNonAlphaCharsHere · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Electrical tape. Same as for obnoxiously bright LEDs.

  8. TV is dead by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I am 44 years old and I grew up with TV. None of my kids watch TV. I do not watch TV. Nobody I know watches TV. The TV is now just a screen in which content which is chosen by the person, at a time specified by the user, is displayed. Yeah, there are still people out there but that whole model of forced advertising is going away. The writing is on the wall.

    strike

  9. A telescreen? by griffjon · · Score: 5, Informative

    "The instrument (the telescreen, it was called) could be dimmed, but there was no way of shutting it off completely. [...] The telescreen received and transmitted simultaneously. Any sound that Winston made, above the level of a very low whisper, would be picked up by it, moreover, so long as he remained within the field of vision which the metal plaque commanded, he could be seen as well as heard.[...] It was even conceivable that they watched everybody all the time. But at any rate they could plug in your wire whenever they wanted to. You had to live--did live, from habit that became instinct--in the assumption that every sound you made was overheard, and, except in darkness, every movement scrutinized.

    Winston kept his back turned to the telescreen. It was safer; though, as he well knew, even a back can be revealing. "

    Via http://gutenberg.net.au/ebooks01/0100021.txt

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  10. So Nielson homes can stop using those damn boxes? by mark-t · · Score: 2

    As a member of a former Nielson ratings household, I can say that I always found it incredibly annoying always having to log into a set-top box whenever I turned on the television... plus I seem to recall having to periodically re-log in to the box every hour or so, if I was doing a TV marathon, just so that it would know we weren't just leaving the TV idle.

  11. Buy a second TV by Golden_Rider · · Score: 5, Funny

    ... and let them watch each other. And enjoy the hilarity of seeing them both trying to serve ads to each other. And then implode.

  12. Advertising is dying by Mandrel · · Score: 2

    ...that whole model of forced advertising is going away. The writing is on the wall.

    Yes as we get more affluent and rational we'll be less willing to trade our time watching ads for free or subsidised content, preferring instead to get relevant ads on-demand from search engines, or eschewing ads altogether and learning about things being sold from editorial content that unlike ads doesn't push an agenda by giving you less than the whole truth.

    As it runs low on the fuel of poverty and irrationality that sustains it, advertising's currently passing through its bloated red giant stage. The core collapse is imminent. But the white dwarf remnant will remain a slowly diminishing beacon in our culture for many years.

  13. Re:Thank you, Orwell. by 1u3hr · · Score: 2

    It was not "unmotivated", it was "misdirected". In the same way how fear of black people is misdirected, even though there are plenty of violent criminals among black people.

    Yeah, right. Thinking Stalinism was evil is the same as being a bigoted racist. Because most communist states were actually so nice and benevolent. Its only the exceptional ones, like USSR, Maoist China, North Korea, Romania, Albania, that gave all the the others a bad name.

    My own politics are very liberal, in American terms, even socialist. But real communism is to be feared. They probably never were a threat to the US in the "Red Menace" way, but they certainly were to their own citizens.

    Not only it's absolutely definitely was intended to refer to the society under Communist, or specifically Stalin rule, most Americans' idea of USSR is actually closer to Orwell's fiction than to reality.

    Americans' ignorance isn't the fault of Orwell. If he had wanted to pillory communism specifically, he would have done so. He fought against the fascists in Spain, he knew how evil both extremes were. Big Brother could have been a Fascist as easily as a Communist. The labels are irrelevant once they get into power.

  14. Cognovision by MoGrapher · · Score: 3, Informative

    I wonder if this has come out of Intel's acquision of Cognovision, and I hope it's better than what they gave developers in 2011. I worked with this product for about a year, attempting to integrate it into our digital signage systems. Not only did it take a dedicated i5 with 2gb of RAM to safely run in the background, it often (as much as 40% of the time) produced the wrong information about a person. Gender was correct about 80% of the time, age was correct in only about 30% of samples, and race was almost never correct (except for very dark skinned folks were alwas called determined to be of African origin).

    The result was that we had to write an algorythm to essentially average out samples over a given duration. When we took 500 samples over 5 seconds, dropped the extremes, and averaged the rest we improved the accuracy to nearly 85%, but that is still pretty bad when you consider that automated actions will be taken based on those results (i.e. to play content for YOUR demographic).

    I don't really want my TV watching me.

    -MoG