DNA Modifications Change As We Age
sciencehabit writes "As we age, the core of our biological being — the sequence of our DNA, which makes up our genes — remains the same. Yet recent research suggests that more subtle chemical changes to our DNA occur as we age. Now, a comparison of the DNA of a newborn baby with that of a centenarian shows that the scope of these changes can be dramatic, and they may help explain why our risk of cancer and other diseases increases as we get older."
can change them back
he core of our biological being — the sequence of our DNA, which makes up our genes — remains the same
I was under the impression that it was known that it doesn't: when the molecule replicates, there could be chunks that failed to replicate perfectly, propagating an error: obviously there are redundancies in place, but eventually (and statistically) the error builds up. I vaguely remember the explanation relying on arguments on physics, as to how the molecule may "snap" incorrectly at the end (or some other point). Can someone more adept in biology verify (or dismiss) this?
The three laws of thermodynamics:(1) You can't win. (2) You can't break even. (3) You can't even quit.
I haven't read the actual original paper because i'm guessing I don't have the appropriate background to understand it. But based on the summary, I'm curious... If there are changes with age, would these differences be passed on to offspring? I assume that some of these aging effects are similar from person to person, so if they are passed on, I imagine that would mean there are statistically significant differences in certain traits based on the age of the parents?
Is anyone more knowledgeable in the field able to comment?
the most common mechanism for DNA mutation is Spontaneous Cysteine Deamination
the complementary bases exist in complements, G~C, and A~T .... when a C turns into a U, the body keeps track of the difference between an original T and a C that has turned into a U because of the methyl in the 5 position of a T.
Then it performs BaseExcisionRepair, if too many of these occur it leads to a DoubleStrandBreak and this can lead to cell death.
Also UV causes two or more T's ... ie TT to bend, then an enzyme is required to straighten this kink out, otherwise it may lead to a DSB and melanoma.
Halogens can substitute in the 5 position of Uracil which results in a 10x radiosensitisation because the enzyme which unkinks the UV kinked TT cannot perform its job, so the problem is not really UV its halogens.. some halogens cause different effects too such as inhibiting the Thymidine Synthase needed to maintain the correct ratio of dUTP / dTTP and hence regulate the cell cycle.
I read that as "DNS Modifications Change As We Age" and briefly started thinking probably true - I'm now more careful with my TTLs than I was a youngster...
Probably because I'm in the middle of a datacentre move for a client and have DNS on the brain....
This was falsified several years ago when it was shown that retrotranspons alter the sequence of DNA in each cell dynamically continuously. Not only that, but cells are altered differently, so a person's cells diverge as they age. The paper is usually paywalled but I have a copy thanks to the generosity of the authors, if anyone wants a copy.
Sorry, but as a matter of principle I automatically reject any claim that has as its central tenant a theory that has already been falsified. Keep up or keep the hell out.
It's a small world and it smells funny; I'd buy another if it wasn't for the money; Take back what I paid (SoM)
Eating fetuses will allow you to live forever with their pristine DNA. It is sort of like drinking unicorn blood.
GMO, it's not just food, it's death, it's dna change faster than aging.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rml_k005tsU&feature=player_embedded
It sounds like Pak Protectors. In his version of reality the age based changes originally had a purpose. The fact there's a genetic change matches with his scenario. Just interesting how science fiction and reality often converge.
This article isn't about GMO, but stuff like this is one of the reasons I think we should hold off GMO for the moment. It seems to me we keep discovering things that surprise us -- epigenetics, and the unexpected extent of horizontal gene transfer, to name two recent ones -- which would suggest to me that we ought to limit ourselves to more research rather than large scale exploitation, for a while at least. (There are larger, non-scientific concerns that are the main reason I'm wary of GMO, but this is one.)
FTA:
"The great secret that all old people share is that you really haven't changed," wrote the late novelist Doris Lessing. "Your body changes, but you don't change at all."
I'm sorry to say thats BS. I'm in my 40s now and I'm a rather different person to the arrogant know-it-all teenager I used to be - different attitude to life, different musical tastes , different temperament, a lot more worldy wise etc. And in another 40 years - if i live that long - I'm sure I'll be different to what I am now. Its not just the body that changes , the mind changes too.
A major factor in what changes the transcription is methylation, which adds a methyl group to cytosine, "turning off" the gene it's attached to. The sequence itself is not changed, as cytosine becomes methyl cytosine (or whatever it's called) and not some other base, but the DNA has still been modified with the methyl group.
FTA: "The great secret that all old people share is that you really haven't changed," wrote the late novelist Doris Lessing
Clearly a well-researched piece.. the only problem - Doris Lessing isn't dead.
Yes.. a dupe of an AC post.. frigging Safari keeps logging out of Slash on every page click. Grr.. And on something I care about (Doris Lessing, one of my fave authors).
FTA: "The great secret that all old people share is that you really haven't changed," wrote the late novelist Doris Lessing
Clearly a well-researched piece.. the only problem - Doris Lessing isn't dead.
If true, it would fall into the "Duuuuuh category" --- anyone who has been existing for awhile is sure to experience mutations through the normal course of life, solar rads, etc., etc., ad infinitum.
its because we eat shit that morphs our bodies