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Ask Slashdot: Best Choice of Linux Laptops For Elementary School?

An anonymous reader writes "I work in the tech department of an elementary school and I am trying to show the tech director the world of Linux. I will be installing edubuntu but I am not sure which laptop to get. I know there are companies like System76 that sell laptops with Linux already installed but I wanted to ask you for your thoughts. We want something small and light weight for the kids. We do not need much horsepower as the main use will be internet/email/word processing and whatever other apps come with edubuntu. Basically, what we really want is something MacBook Air-like but not nearly as expensive. Thoughts?"

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  1. Lenovo mini by flyingfsck · · Score: 5, Informative

    The Lenovo laptops always work well with Linux. The S110 (mini) may be good for elementary school. I am using one daily running Fedora 16.

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    1. Re:Lenovo mini by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Lenovo support is also a boon in this kind of situation. Their driver website and technical documentation puts other vendors to shame, and in my personal experience the machines have fewer quirks or one-off features that typically don't mesh well with Linux.

    2. Re:Lenovo mini by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Interesting
      Just spec up a bog-standard set of components with a Chinese manufacturer like Molo http://www.molo-electronics.com/product/Pro158.Html or Elijah http://elijahindustrial.en.alibaba.com/product/539115573-200670129/13_3_inch_wide_screen1_8GHz_DVD_ROM_Bluetooth_Camera_laptop.html.

      It'll cost you a fraction of the price of the Lenovo or any other branded equivalent, look prettier for the kids and work fine with whatever distro you specify.

      These things are commodities now, especially in an elementary school setting. Why pay a premium?

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    3. Re:Lenovo mini by wvmarle · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why pay a premium?

      Warranty and overall build quality (including strength and durability of the casing) come to mind. Children are not the most careful bunch.

    4. Re:Lenovo mini by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

      One of the main reasons I check slashdot is to see what's going on in "Trailer Park IT". Buying noname chinese shittops off Alibaba.com and giving them to school children is a new one, I will give you that.

      One question: What happens when 50% of these things show up DOA? Just call Ms. May Elijah in Shenzhen, and she sorts it all out?

    5. Re:Lenovo mini by realityimpaired · · Score: 5, Informative

      Why not buy something that comes with Linux pre-installed, and has next day on-site warranty included in the base price?

      http://configure.us.dell.com/dellstore/config.aspx?oc=sqct12&model_id=vostro-1440&c=us&l=en&s=soho&cs=ussoho1

      It's relatively inexpensive, has a reasonable amount of horsepower, is reasonably light-weight*, and it has Ubuntu preinstalled, so switching it over to Edubuntu should be as easy as "apt-get install edubuntu", and you have a reasonable assurance that everything will work out of the box, and the *base* warranty option on it, because it's in the SMB line of products, includes next business day onsite hardware support. They've also been known to give some very nice deals to educational institutions.

      * - It's not as small/lightweight as the V130 I'm typing this on, but that has been replaced by the V131 and they seem to have removed the Linux option on it. That being said, if you get a V131, everything'll work out of the box, too, and that is a smaller/lighter system.

  2. Need? by colinrichardday · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do elementary-school students really need laptops?

    1. Re:Need? by Mindscrew · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Why would you EVER buy a 6-11 year old child a 300+ dollar piece of technology to take to school?

      Are you really trying to just throw you money away?

      If a school district ever required my (nonexistent) child to carry a device around that costs hundreds of dollars, i would pull my kid out of that district fater then they can say "but its our requirement!"

      Are you KIDDING me? The last thing i want is for some 5th grader to steal my child's ipad that i paid for with my hard earned money.

      If they want to provide them... and provide support.... and provide replacements to stolen ipads... free of charge from me... than fine. But this would never happen with our education budgets.

      And dont come to me to replace the stupid thing when it comes up missing.

      Im sorry but that is ridiculous.

  3. Netbooks by subreality · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You don't want an Air. That's basically taking the parts from a full power, full featured laptop and using heavy integration to cram it into an extra thin case.

    Doing that for cheaper is basically the definition of "Ultrabook".

    But you're looking for less powerful and less expensive. That's square on what Netbooks were created for. Pick your favorite 12" model.

    If you want something with more midrange performance, look at the Thinkpad X130 series. It's not a real Thinkpad, but more of a premium-grade netbook.

  4. Re:Are you fcking Crazy ? by jedidiah · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What "educational opportunites"?

    Computing is about gettting stuff done. It's not about using particular branded products. Even if you do choose to fixate on a particular brand, it's rather likely that the brand won't be recognizable by "later in their careers".

    Schools should be teaching concepts not products.

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  5. What is the concept behind an iPad at that age? by Casandro · · Score: 5, Interesting

    What can a child do with an iPad at that age?
    If it's just "reading books" and "playing games", then you should consider cheaper alternatives since obviously your child could also use books and games. The even more pressing issue is of course that tablets don't give tactile feedback. Playing with bricks, for example, gives that feedback. They need to learn how strongly they need to grip such a block and they practice that since they want to learn how to use the blocks. That's an experience a tablet cannot give them.

    Don't confuse the latest fad rich people have with something which will benefit your child.

  6. Not an HP! by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Interesting

    First, my recommendations:

    Acer - I have seen minimal compatibility issues. Build quality ranges from pretty good to ok. Modifiable. Aesthetically respectable.

    Asus - Generally of pretty good build quality. Aesthetically above average. Usually quite compatible. Modifiable from my experience. Has made some unfriendly decisions regarding Linux lately. I am partial to Asus, at least until they push too far with Linux hostilities. They also make motherboards, which is a good skill to have in a manufacturer.

    MSI - Pretty good.

    Gateway - Pretty good from a few years back, though I am not sure now.

    Build Your Own - There are websites out there that will allow you to build your own laptop to your desired specs. More expensive, but you get what you truly desire.

    Now for the crap:

    HP - Sometimes they look great, they usually perform very well in Windows and Linux, of generally acceptable build quality. But they do something that really, REALLY pisses me off; they poison the BIOS to prevent hardware modification. I once tried to change my Broadcom wifi chip to an Atheros, both identical half-mini PCI, and the computer would refuse to boot, providing only an error message of "Unsupported Hardware Detected". I despise HP. I could go on too.

    Sony - (insert profanity here)

    Lenovo - Often pretty to look at, good performance on Win/Lin, but like HP they are hostile to customer hardware modifications and often poison the BIOS. You might also note that flashing the BIOS does not correct the problem easily. They sure aren't IBM anymore. But I think IBM may have also shared this authoritarianism.

    Mac - Beautiful little bastards. But I'll leave it at that.

  7. Stop It by KalvinB · · Score: 5, Insightful

    You know what would educate kids better than some flavor of laptop?

    Teachers.

  8. Re:solicit bids by PolygamousRanchKid+ · · Score: 5, Funny

    Call Dell, Call IBM

    Calling IBM won't help. Unless you want an IBM BladeCenter . . . every kid gets his own blade. Or why not virtualize and consolidate everything to one 24/7 zSeries. The server will have a better attendance record than the school kids.

    IBM doesn't sell PCs. But they will sell you a cloud of them, so that would be easier for the school kids to carry, because clouds are lightweight. Hey, no need to worry about theft! How do you steal a kid's cloud like his lunch money? And since the cloud is nowhere and everywhere, the kids can use it at school and at home.

    Of course, the ultimate solution would be to buy an IBM Watson system. It is so smart, that you can get rid of those damn kids in your school altogether.

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