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Motorola To Buy PDA-Inventor Psion For $200 Million

judgecorp writes "Psion, the company which made the first handheld computers in the 1980s, invented the PDA, and launched the once-unstoppable Symbian OS, is to be bought by Motorola Solutions for $200 million. Following a merger with Teklogix ten years ago, Psion has just been making ruggedised business devices, a business where Motorola Solutions also plays — note, this is Motorola Solutions, not the phones division Motorola Mobility, which Google recently bought."

144 comments

  1. Thank you Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Incredible to think Nokia went from the top slot to almost nowhere in the space of one CEO. Not only that, but he's ENTRENCHING himself further in, replacing some of the key staff with his own choices. Elop is to Nokia what Icahn was to Yahoo, a fake saviour that actually decimates the company for their own ends.

    He's going to be difficult to unseat now, well until the company is sold to Microsoft for a pittance, but seriously, can any shareholder say he's done a good job? Nokia could be the major Android player now, Huawai the Chinese maker is growing at a huge rate and came in late to the Android market, yet Nokia's Elop claimed it was a meat market they couldn't make money in???

    1. Re:Thank you Elop by Tough+Love · · Score: 2

      Where are the lawsuits?

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    2. Re:Thank you Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0
      Stop it!

      Apple, Oracle, Microsoft, Nokia and the rest of the Axis companies are raising enough lawsuits as it is.

    3. Re:Thank you Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1, Interesting

      Nokia was nowhere near the top when Elop came in. You're rewriting history to fit your agenda.

      Also, WP7 is a better OS for the vast majority of people than Android is. It's a better, smoother, more uniform and less worrisome experience. It just works.

      If you're a tinkerer then by all means use Android. If you just want a really nice phone then get one of Nokia's Lumias. The critics love em, and so do the people who have bought them.

    4. Re:Thank you Elop by c0lo · · Score: 1

      Stop it!

      Apple, Oracle, Microsoft, Nokia and the rest of the Axis companies are raising enough lawsuits as it is.

      Not nearly enough... at least not until somebody does something to fix the patent system!! (my view: the current situation requires the things to go much worse before starting to go better. Until then, I think we can survive with whatever smartphones/tablets are not yet banned on different markets).

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    5. Re:Thank you Elop by lloydchristmas759 · · Score: 1

      I haven't tried WP7 so I cannot speak for it, but I don't share your view on Android, especially on ICS. Android is now far from the early days when it was more for geeks (which I am) than average users. I just exchanged my faulty HTC Desire (Froyo) for a Galaxy Nexus (the SIII was too expensive in my opinion), and I was amazed by how smooth and polished it is. Very simple setup for both my private GMail (including Calendar, Contacts and Drive) account and my company Exchange account. Several missing features in were finally added (e.g. better contact search and sort capabilities) and the overall experience is really good. No need to tweak obscure settings or install half a dozen apps to palliate for missing features. I'm just a bit disappointed by the battery life (about one day for an moderate-intensive usage pattern).

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    6. Re:Thank you Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Informative

      Incredible to think Nokia went from the top slot to almost nowhere in the space of one CEO.

      Story is about Motorola. Fuck all to do with Nokia. Mod parent offtopic.

    7. Re:Thank you Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 1

      Dude - the story is about Psion not Nokia

    8. Re:Thank you Elop by makomk · · Score: 1

      Nokia actually bought the Symbian OS that they based most of their phones on prior to switching strategy to Windows Phone from Psion. It's based on the OS that Psion's old PDAs used to run.

    9. Re:Thank you Elop by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      Yup, Nokia will be circling the drain in 24 months. All because of a very dumb CEO, who will make at least 200 Million Euro for destroying the company with his golden parachute.

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    10. Re:Thank you Elop by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Go away, Microsoft shill.

    11. Re:Thank you Elop by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Yup, Nokia will be circling the drain in 24 months. All because of a very dumb CEO, who will make at least 200 Million Euro for destroying the company with his golden parachute.

      I don't think the dumb one is the guy walking away with a 200 million euro golden parachute after he's destroyed the company.

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    12. Re:Thank you Elop by DrXym · · Score: 2
      Nokia was definitely ailing. It spent a decade fighting itself with various divisions duplicating effort, pursuing lame duck projects, fighting amongst itself, wasting piles of money. It definitely needed to revise it's strategy in numerous ways and it would have meant job losses and most likely the death of Meego and ultimately Symbian.

      But the way they've gone about it is pure suicide. They killed Symbian when it still had life in it, burned any possibility of a migration path and went with the worst smart OS at this present time. Consequently developer confidence has collapsed, consumer sales have collapsed and their entire future relies on their relationship (or not) with Microsoft. They are literally Microsoft's bitch. At the present rate of losses they'll be sold and asset stripped within 18 months. If they're lucky they'll limp along in some form as Microsoft's mobile hardware division. If not, they'll be worth as much as their patents and will be quietly dispatched.

      No doubt Elop will award himself an enormous bonus and finding himself back as a senior VP within Microsoft when it's all done but Nokia is fucked and it's hard to believe that this wasn't all planned from the moment that he was put in charge. Seriously what the hell were they thinking when they hired this guy.

      I don't think it would have been easy if they'd chosen Android for example, but it's also clear how they could have produced a product which would have appealed to existing Symbian users while benefiting from the large Android ecosystem. Hell, they could have even shoved a Symbian or QT runtime on there so that porting apps to the new phone OS was relatively straightforward.

    13. Re:Thank you Elop by DrXym · · Score: 1
      I have a WP7 phone and an Android phone. There is no denying how slick the WP7 phone looks but it's also brain damaged in numerous simple ways.

      Lack of multitasking is the most obvious one in apps but it goes through the whole system. Actions that you might easily accomplish in Android like setting a custom ring tone, or sharing a contact number from a web page to someone via text are just a pain in the ass or not possible at all. Metro's tiles look nice until you release you have exactly one list of tiles stacked 2 across. It becomes almost unusable once it goes beyond a couple of screen heights and customisation is practically non existent - a wallpaper screensaver and that's it.

      One "feature" that drives me mad is that Windows Phone has a single APN for MMS and 3G and a single switch which turns ALL data on or off. So if you get an MMS you must turn on data, but if I turn on data I might inadvertently hit the net and incur a PAYG daily data charge. On Android I can have more than one APN and I can toggle 3G off without affecting MMS. Even Nokia recognize how shit this is since they've written a Network Setup app to try and paper the cracks around the APN stuff but it still doesn't fix my problem.

      It's this sort of immaturity which makes Windows Phone so frustrating. It's superficially pretty but it's a deeply immature OS. Meanwhile Android 4.0 looks great and is extremely feature rich. I really do not see the point of buying a Windows Phone until it improves substantially.

  2. Psion didn't "invent" .... by evanak · · Score: 0

    Handheld electronic organizers were around since the late 1970s. Toshiba, Canon, and Sharp were some of the companies that made them. In the early 1980s those companies were joined by Matsushita (Panasonic/Quasar), Casio, and others. Psion did not not "invent" the PDA any more than Apple "invented" the PDA in 1993 ..... 15 years after such products debuted.

    1. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2

      Oh yeah? I'd like to learn more about this. What were some of the model numbers of Toshiba, Canon, and Sharp PDAs that predate 1983?

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    2. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by MobileTatsu-NJG · · Score: 2, Informative

      Sorry to reply to my own post, but in looking the answer up to my question I did find an interesting link.

      It may strain your definition of PDA a bit, but the history of these machines is neat.

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    3. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by evanak · · Score: 5, Informative

      Wow .... thanks for posting that .... it's BLATANT PLAGIARISM of my web page from several years ago (see where it says "By Evan Koblentz"? That's me. Whatever site posted it sure as hell didn't have my permission to do so.)

    4. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well, Apple did invent the name "personal digital assistant", meaning a handheld computer as opposed to a fixed-function address book/organizer.

    5. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by MicroSlut · · Score: 1

      I'm going to have to agree with evanak. The definition of PDA is vague enough to conclude that Psion certainly did not invent it.

    6. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by evanak · · Score: 3, Informative

      PS - The site that stole my work has fine print saying "All rights reserved" on the bottom of their page .... so they steal people's work ... and then claim the rights to it. Nice.

    7. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 1

      Nothing was taken from you by copying your data; you still have all the data you had, you see.

      That sounds about right.

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    8. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by evanak · · Score: 0

      So what? In the 1990s some marketing schmo "invented" the term SUV. Try telling people in the many decades prior who owned panel trucks, Land Cruisers, and Broncos that this person, whoever it was, "invented" that type of vehicle. (Sorry to everyone else who had to watch my rant about the rip-off site. Legitimate sites like Internet Archive are great, but it really ticks me off to see what these other sites do .... I removed my history-of-PDAs page several years ago for a legitimate reason.)

    9. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by evanak · · Score: 5, Informative

      I'm not looking for sympathy, I'm just mad. I removed the site for (gasp!) a business purpose. Just because something was once online does not mean the world is free to steal it. I'm sure some people will flame me for saying that; they can go right ahead because there's free speech. I'm as politically liberal as anyone, and I'm a strong advocate for open-source. My home computer runs Linux. None of that precludes me from wanting to make a few bucks from (more gasp!) my intellectual property. It's very naive for people to say I "haven't been harmed" and "nothing was taken from me" ... that's bull. If I plan to sell something (in this case, the page is part of a chapter of an upcoming book), and someone else decides it's their right to TAKE it and GIVE it away, then I am directly harmed and losing something -- money in my pocket, and food on my family's table. (Yes, I know there are papers and studies claiming that open-source actually increases sales, blah blah blah ... did you know 80% of all people believe made-up statistics? :) ) Bottom line: just because something is closed-source doesn't make it evil, and just because something is open-source doesn't make it good. (It does, however, feel good to rant.)

    10. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by catmistake · · Score: 1, Offtopic

      What asshole modded you down? This is a fascinating coincidence if nothing else... and it IS something else, living copyright infringement... and not just downloading a movie and watching it yourself because you're poor, but taking something and redistributing it for the benefit of people that are not you. Fucking Slashdot has seriously changed, man...

    11. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Psion did not not "invent" the PDA any more than Apple "invented" the PDA in 1993 ..... 15 years after such products debuted.

      Semantically, at least, Apple did actually invent the PDA:

      Apple CEO John Sculley had coined the term in the keynote speech he made at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas on January 7.

      Read more

    12. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by IntlHarvester · · Score: 1

      Well, it is very interesting article. Could you post a link to the original version? This one is stuck inside some messed-up tables and is unreadable without mucking with the CSS.

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    13. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Psion did not not "invent" the PDA any more than Apple "invented" the PDA in 1993 ..... 15 years after such products debuted.

      Semantically, at least, Apple did actually invent the PDA:

      Apple CEO John Sculley had coined the term in the keynote speech he made at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas on January 7.

      Read more

      The term PDA was first used on January 7, 1992 by Apple Computer CEO John Sculley at the Consumer Electronics Show in Las Vegas, Nevada, referring to the Apple Newton.

      confirmed

    14. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Just finished reading... very very nice. You wrote that in 2005? Come on, Speed!... time to get that published on dead tree. Having years of experience in printing and publishing (from the production stand point), allow me to personally recommend finding a good letterpress printer, and use quality binding in the hardbound version. Everyone appreciates a well made book in the classical style... please don't cheap-out on the printing (or the paper, typesetting, design and binding... go traditional as much as you can, all the way). Also... just a suggestion... I think you take too much time bashing the Newton... the Newton-zealots are pretty much extinct or have crawled back in the holes they came from, so you might want to dial that back a bit... its the history of hand held computer, PDA and the like, not the history of Apple fanatics. Also, it is worth a minor nod to Sculley for coining the term "PDA," and noting when it happpened, if only because the term was adopted so widely by, at the very least, consumers, and at best defining the entire device "type" (vs. "token"). You spend more time talking about companies trying to avoid using the term than you do explaining where it came from... and exactly how it came about (why not give Sculley a phone interview and get the real story behind where it came from? Regardless of your personal feelings about Apple, this is objectively important, and for the detail you've given everything else, worth at least a paragraph, not a mere sentence dismissing its importance.) Otherwise an AMAZING READ. Seriously... its time to get that published. I can't BELIEVE you've waited this long! WHO ARE YOU? You deserve the recognition for objectively documenting this important history (speaking as a student of the Philosophy and History of Science and Technology, via VA Tech). Thank you for creating that! My apologies that I had to read an illegal unauthorized version of the work... but get it in print and I will buy it! and copies for friends! Good luck! And... did I mention hurry up?

    15. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

      the world IS free to take it, and you need to find a new business model.

      Like book signings, or after-dinner speeches. Or get sponsored by the pope.

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    16. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Yes indeed. Some people have a right to make money from their work. Others apparently don't. I have also suffered from plagiarism on the web, and seen other people profit from my work. No-one cares. I'm writing less in future and giving away less. I can't do otherwise as I find that the supermarket doesn't accept "donated lots of useful stuff to the world" as payment.

    17. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      We call it "
      thefacebooking".

    18. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Safari's "Reader" function did a great job of reformatting the article into something very readable.

    19. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Semantically Apple named the PDA, rather than inventing it.

    20. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Nothing was taken from you by copying your data; you still have all the data you had, you see.

      That sounds about right.

      Except when someone does the same to bit that are GPL'ed. Then the argument goes the other way and it is all kinds of evil and harmful.

    21. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Midnight+Thunder · · Score: 1

      If you removed the article for business reasons and it is available in some other form (a book maybe?), then you should probably provide a reference to the new format, especially since the article links to your page. Your page simply has something indicating that your site is going under reconstruction, without a reason why the article text vanished.

      The Internet tends to try to recover lost information, with more concern for culture, than ownership. If you can provide the missing information or a reference to it, then it usually helps people feel the information is not lost.

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    22. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      If you really have a problem, stop complaining on Slashdot and send them a DMCA notice.

    23. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by cheekyjohnson · · Score: 2

      Some people believe that the GPL is useful as long as copyright exists but that copyright in general shouldn't exist. Also, what do you mean? You're just generalizing. Not everyone feels that way.

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    24. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You need to calm down several notches.

      1) Your article is presented accredited after you removed your website. How is this really different than me archiving something I like that isn't around anymore, or hell the internet archive (archive.org). You are fully accredited!

      2) All those pictures in the article, did you take them? Or are you just presenting them accredited to the photographer.

      3) See 1) for this but, you aren't actually losing any money, you had taken the article offline yourself.

      4) If this typical tech journalism dribble is what feeds your family, consider another line of work. It isn't particularly well written. I'd rather comb wikipedia myself.

    25. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 1

      So, sorry... but in the eyes of slashdot groupthink, you haven't been harmed. Nothing was taken from you by copying your data; you still have all the data you had, you see.

      In the eyes of Slashdot groupthink, Evan is not the victim of data theft. Well, he's not - he's the victim of plagiarism! Which is exactly what evanak complained about in the first place.

      These vindictive jabs against "the masses" are getting tiring...

    26. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by catmistake · · Score: 1

      Semantically Apple named the PDA, rather than inventing it.

      My comment was tongue in cheek, but by all means we must downplay the importance of anything that Apple does, at all costs, no matter what, and make sure no one ever gives even the slightest amount of credit where credit is due... even if Apple is ultimately responsible for the label we use for an entire class of digiital technology which has been universally adopted.

    27. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Oh noes, someone stole an article from you, that you'd made available for free, fully accredited to you. How will you ever feed your family!!!1

      Get a clue moron.

    28. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      But at the time, a "personal digital assistant" at least within Apple, had a much different connotation. It almost exclusively referred to one's middle finger and what could be done with it.

    29. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by jareth-0205 · · Score: 1

      Sue them. It'll be good fun.

    30. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Lumpy · · Score: 1

      The Tandy TRS-80 for sale in summer of 1980. Made by sharp :-)

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    31. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by rs79 · · Score: 1

      archive.org has the original

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    32. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Have you considered getting a job to feed said family, instead of being a forum troll. Pays better, less nerd rage.

    33. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      the world IS free to take it, and you need to find a new business model.

      Like book signings, or after-dinner speeches. Or get sponsored by the pope.

      I honestly couldn't tell if you were joking until I re-read that sentence. Good work.

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    34. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Good luck trying to take something out of the public domain that you put there. I've personally just submitted this article to a bunch of my content farm sites. Fully accredited of course.

      This is standard operating procedure in my business. You may be a fairly mediocre author, but that kinda stuff is perfect content farm fodder, danke!

    35. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Safari's "Reader" function did a great job of reformatting the article into something very readable.

      But on the downside, you have Safari on your computer.

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    36. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Oh noes, someone stole an article from you, that you'd made available for free, fully accredited to you. How will you ever feed your family!!!1

      Get a clue moron.

      He'd made ut avaukabke fir free, then changed his mind. I know this is a meaningless distinction to most slashdotters, but it is a genuine one in reality. A writer owns the words he writes more than he owns the land he lives on, as he didn't create the land, merely bought it off someone else.

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    37. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Semantically Apple named the PDA, rather than inventing it.

      My comment was tongue in cheek, but by all means we must downplay the importance of anything that Apple does, at all costs, no matter what, and make sure no one ever gives even the slightest amount of credit where credit is due... even if Apple is ultimately responsible for the label we use for an entire class of digiital technology which has been universally adopted.

      As a matter of fact, PDA is an American term mainly, In the UK we just called them "electronic organisers" or similar. The only people who used the term PDA were geeks pretending they were about to be offered jobs in Silicon Valley IIRC.

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    38. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      OR you refocus the energy, embrace what has already happened, and market it as a preview of whats to come, you dont come off sounding like a doushe, and everyones happy (as you quietly proceed to sue the web op and take over the domain)

    39. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by MSG · · Score: 1

      It's very naive for people to say I "haven't been harmed" and "nothing was taken from me" ... then I am directly harmed and losing something -- money in my pocket, and food on my family's table.

      You may be harmed by this action, though there's no clear evidence of that. It's a bit of a stretch to imagine that potential buyers of your book will locate this chapter located in some recess of the Internet and decide not to buy.

      Regardless of that, nothing was taken from you. You did not have money in your pocket or food on your family's table with which someone made off. If you have lost anything, it is opportunity, and only that. You haven't been deprived of anything that you previously had. How much opportunity have you lost? I strain to imagine that it's measurable.

    40. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      On the plus side, I have a Mac.

    41. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      Actually, more often Brits would just call them Psions. At least till the late 90s when they switched to calling them PalmPilots.

      Pretty much as now people call smartphones: iPhones and tablets: iPads.

      Hmm... must do some hoovering with my Dyson.

    42. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You can release code with GPL, and then restrict it for future versions, but people are still free to use the GPL version you released, fork it, redistribute it intact, etc.

      This article was redistributed intact, I know that is a meaningless distinction to most slashdotters....

    43. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      what a tool you are mate... grow up

    44. Re:Psion didn't "invent" .... by cstec · · Score: 1

      Thanks for correcting this .. propganda. Radio Shack released the TRS-80 Pocket Computer, the PC-1, in early 1980 several years before Psion went into hardware. It was manufactured by Sharp, had this funky black-on-amber LCD display and was followed on by a much more capable PC-2.

      No wiki this time, I was there the day it was released, in the store that got the first unit. It's hard to imagine the impact this thing had at the time. A couple weeks before it arrived the Radio Shack staff showed me the newspaper ad for it and I actually thought it was a gag paper they had printed up! When it actually arrived it was like some bit of Star Trek had come to life.

  3. Mostorola? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Mostorola, you mean Motorola?

  4. Tandy 100 by fermion · · Score: 1
    There is a question of whether on can discover or invent something that does one does not yet know exists. For instance, Oxygen was isolated by Priestly in 1774, yet the idea that elements exists did not come for another 10 or 20 years. So while a couple people separated oxygen from the rest of the air, and did stuff with it, did they discover oxygen? I don't know.

    What i do know is my first PDA, though the term did not come into use until the 1990s, was a Tandy 100. It was a portable device that stored all the data I needed for life. It was a little big, but no worse than a Dayrunner or franklin planner, and you saved on all those horribly expensive refills. This machine certainly lead me to a life or electronic organization. I also know that for some of my friends the first PDA was an HP calculator with magnetic strip attachement. This must have 1981-82. Every morning they would enter data for their plan. It was primitive but seemed to be effective for them.

    I will say that, for me, the first effective and portable PDA was the Palm V.

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    1. Re:Tandy 100 by timeOday · · Score: 1
      Yeah, there's little point arguing whether somebody "invented the PDA." Something without a crisp definition will obviously not have a clear inventor or date of invention. Still, some are more innovative that others. I owned a Psion 3a and I don't remember anything just like it at the time.

      Later my Palm III was effective and portable, but I agree with you, the Palm V was the apogee of the PDA before the term itself waned, rather arbitrarily.

  5. Why so many mergers/splits? by MrEricSir · · Score: 1

    Slightly OT, but forgive me -- why have so many tech companies either merged or split in the past couple decades?

    I ask because it seems it's often a poor move in the long run if you think about it. Yahoo, Microsoft, and HP seem especially prone to questionable purchases an sales.

    Is it just about making a quick buck? Or is there some other benefit to all of this that I'm not seeing?

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    1. Re:Why so many mergers/splits? by ongelovigehond · · Score: 1

      Maybe to acquire patents.

    2. Re:Why so many mergers/splits? by kikito · · Score: 1

      Well, it's always the same reason, isn't it? Someone wants money.

    3. Re:Why so many mergers/splits? by TheRaven64 · · Score: 1

      Psion had a really great product with the Series 3 and descendants (3a and 3c), and a pretty good one with the Series 5. The 5 had a really nice keyboard, but relatively poor battery life. Then they more or less lost the plot. The great thing about the Series 3 was that you could keep it in your pocket and use it frequently for a couple of weeks on a pair of AA batteries. The Series 5 needed charging overnight. It also involved a complete rewrite of the OS. EPOC16 was mainly written in 8086 assembly and used segments to give each application its own 64KB address space (most applications ran in under 10KB of RAM). EPOC32 had to run on 32-bit ARM, and was a little bit heavier, partly because the machine had a proper MMU and partially because it could afford to be in a machine with 16 times as much RAM, but it was still a very nice system to use.

      Psion then tried to move into larger devices, with the Series 7 and the netBook. Both were 'subnotebooks', fitting squarely into the market where they're as unportable as a laptop and as underpowered as a handheld. Oddly enough, they were not a commercial success.

      EPOC32, however, was. Rebranded Symbian, it was licensed to pretty much all mobile phone makers and was the dominant platform for high-end mobile phones for some years. Until the launch of the iPhone, it had about 70% of the Smartphone and Featurephone markets, although both iOS and Android (combined with spectacular mismanagement by Nokia) have eroded it to almost nothing now.

      Psion sold off the hardware part to focus on Symbian, because their later hardware sucked - the netBook part of the acquisition was irrelevant to the company that bought them for their modem hardware, so it was largely killed off. Nokia bought the Symbian part later because most of their products were based on it.

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    4. Re:Why so many mergers/splits? by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Maybe to acquire patents.

      Almost certainly, plus brand names have some value, and you'll probably pick up a few good members of staff who you can use as a reason to weed out some of the chaff from your own organisation when you replace them.

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    5. Re:Why so many mergers/splits? by evilviper · · Score: 2

      The great thing about the Series 3 was that you could keep it in your pocket and use it frequently for a couple of weeks on a pair of AA batteries. The Series 5 needed charging overnight.

      I have no idea WTF you're going on about... The Psion Series 5 was advertised as running for a month on a single pair of AA batteries (light usage), and I got about a week per pair of heavy usage, for the duration of the time I was using my 5MX.

      WP lists it as ~20hrs of continuous use, which you most certainly couldn't consume every "night":
      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Psion_Series_5

      With modern, high capacity NiMH-LSD batteries, or lithium AAs, I'd bet it would really get over a month of battery life with heavy usage, these days.

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  6. Two Motorolas? by Compaqt · · Score: 1

    They both use the Motorala trademark at the same time? How does that work out?

    And do they have an agreement not to get into each other's business? Does this change that?

    And are these the same guys that make bar code scanners?

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    1. Re:Two Motorolas? by Tough+Love · · Score: 1

      They both use the Motorala trademark at the same time? How does that work out?

      I would not be surprised to see Google promptly hand the Motorola Mobility trademark back to Motorla Solutions now that the deal has closed. It is a practical certainty there was a license agreement in place during the period of the acquisition. Google has no interest in the Motorola trademark, just the patent portfolio and to a lesser extent the handset/tablet business which most likely will be spun off to an Android partner after releasing a couple of concept products.

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    2. Re:Two Motorolas? by rs79 · · Score: 4, Interesting

      "And are these the same guys that make bar code scanners?"

      I'm not entirely certain I'm answering the right question here, but, I used to work for Teklogix, in the 70s and again in the 90s. Teklogix invented the hand held barcode scanner. I wrote the barcode decoding software. And you know that thing where in UPC and EAN you can't tell 1's from 7's ad 2's from 9's? I found a way around that. it was basically an improvement to the IBM edge to edge detection technique. I wrote it up and told my boss we should patent it and he just sat on it till it was too late to patent it. AFAIK those are the only termials that have this, it was to fix Brown Shoe's one in a million scan error problem, and did. That patent would have been valuable to motorola, certainly more valuable than not having one. So, kids, if you hand in something like this to your boss an tell him to patent it, nag him till he does.

      In the 70s Teklogix automated the postal plants and did special effects hardware for camera stuff. We had PDP-11's and Dave Conroy worked at the next desk from me and this is where he wrote his C compiler, which became DECUS C which became gcc.

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    3. Re:Two Motorolas? by gbobeck · · Score: 1

      > They both use the Motorala trademark at the same time? How does that work out?

      Long story made short: Licensing agreements. If my memory serves me correctly, Motorola Mobility owns the Motorola name and licenses it to Motorola Solutions.

      > And do they have an agreement not to get into each other's business? Does this change that? And are these the same guys that make bar code scanners?

      I would assume they have a non-compete agreement.

      Motorola Solutions owns Symbol Technologies. Symbol technologies has a few tablet products so this shouldn't change that.

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    4. Re:Two Motorolas? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      yeah, they're the barcode scanner guys.

      the difference is that they're profitable when the phone side wasn't.

      they were cut out from the other (phone) motorola because they were profitable, funny that. google should have bought them.

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    5. Re:Two Motorolas? by Hognoxious · · Score: 2

      They both use the Motorala trademark at the same time? How does that work out?

      Try asking Rolls Royce.

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    6. Re:Two Motorolas? by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      They both use the Motorala trademark at the same time? How does that work out?

      Somewhat like the Virgin brand. Virgin Media which is a wireless network and cable company is a completely separate company from Virgin Group which has the airline, music etc businesses. I believe there are also some more entirely separate companies that also use the Virgin brand.

      For some reason it's a powerful brand name, and so the right to use it has been sold on when the companies have been spun off into separate entities.

    7. Re:Two Motorolas? by rs79 · · Score: 1

      Sorry, Teklogix invented the hand held *RF* barcode scanner. (And within 10 years had 2% of the market as so often happens in Canada)

      (Although I guess we call "RF" "WiFi" these days)

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    8. Re:Two Motorolas? by evilviper · · Score: 1

      So, kids, if you hand in something like this to your boss an tell him to patent it, nag him till he does.

      Most companies give ABSOLUTELY NOTHING to their employees in return for a patent going through & being licensed. Some will give a tiny little fixed-sum for every patent, up-front. It's extremely rare that you'll get a cut of an profits, after all, just about every contract says your employer owns every single thought you have for the duration of your employment.

      The only way to do it is to keep your bright ideas to yourself, develop them on your own time, with your own money and equipment, and patent them yourself.

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    9. Re:Two Motorolas? by rs79 · · Score: 1

      Oh and look what I found: Teklogix company picnic, 1976. Great shots of Dave Conroy's back.

      http://rs79.vrx.net/works/photoblog/2011/Feb/9/

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  7. Non-compete clause? by SurfaceMount · · Score: 1

    Surely Google made Motorola agree to some sort of non-compete clause?
    Buying a mobile device company sounds a lot like competing, trying to rebuild the division they just sold off for massive amounts of money?
    Buying an early player in the mobile device market suggests they are after patents and prior art which protects them from other patents.

    Raises a question about whether Google got the full mobile package, or if Motorola kept some patents, IP and key staff on hand in order to stay in the mobile technology sector?

    1. Re:Non-compete clause? by gl4ss · · Score: 1

      ..how could google ask such a thing after this motorola had been cut out from the phone motorola ages ago now already? this motorola that did this buy was basically the profitable side of motorola business that was cut out from the loss making phone business which google bought.

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    2. Re:Non-compete clause? by BasilBrush · · Score: 1

      When Motorola Mobility was spun off and sold to Google, the enterprise mobility division stayed with Motorola Solutions. And Psion has long been an enterprise mobility company. So there's nothing untoward here at all.

  8. I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by c.r.o.c.o · · Score: 3, Funny

    A while ago I realized every single manufacturer of electronic devices I loved has either gone bankrupt or shut down that particular division. Here's my list in no particular order:

    - Psion 5, 5MX, 5MX Pro
    - Palm III, Vx, m500
    - Sony Clie NR70, NX70, TH55 and many others
    - Nokia E71, N900, N9

    I hold a particular soft spot for Psion though, as their devices were truly works of art. It took a decade for the same level of integration between the OS and component applications to be matched. The hardware was (almost) bulletproof, with the 5 series sliding keyboard being a truly impressive piece of engineering. However having a battery life measured in DAYS is still a pipe dream...

    I do seem to have a knack for picking dying technologies though. A friend joked that I should be given a free Windows phone, that will certainly spell its demise.

    1. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Do you own a BlackBerry?

    2. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by kikito · · Score: 2

      > A friend joked that I should be given a free Windows phone, that will certainly spell its demise.

      Start a kickstarter campaign.

    3. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      I loved my 5mx (and to a lesser extent my Revo), and I still think it's a neat form factor. I wrote quite a bit on that thing.

    4. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by saihung · · Score: 1

      I still have a 5mx. It's sitting on my desk, right here. It still powers on, the backlight still works, even the SIR port and the serial ports still work. It runs for weeks on a lousy pair of AA alkaline batteries. The reason I still keep it is because there is no other device of that size with a touch-typable QWERTY keyboard that one can use to produce large volumes of text comfortably. Nothing. I've owned a selection of Zauruses, a Fujitsu u810, and flirted with a Sony Vaio P, a Nokia Communicator E90, and a variety of other devices. For typing - just taking notes - they suck compared to my ancient Psion 5mx.

      That said, trying to get online with this device, something that was once quite easy (when every decent GSM handset had an IrDA port) is now almost impossible. I still have an old Nokia kicking around with IrDA, but trying to load web pages in 2012 with Opera 3.14 is an exercise in insanity.

      What I would like to see is someone stuff the guts of a tiny ARM SBC into an old 5mx case. I don't even care if they stick with the old 16 greyscale screen - just some more processing power in this machine and (maybe) a USB port and I'd be all set. Surely there's something better than the ARM 710T at 33Mhz that could be hacked in?

    5. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by AccUser · · Score: 1

      I found my old Psion Workabout in our loft a couple of months ago, and it was still working. I gave it to my 10 year old son along with the instruction manual, and he went off and poked around with it for a couple of days, but soon lost interest. My 6 year old daughter is currently using it as an electronic journal, having worked out herself how to use it.

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    6. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by BeardedChimp · · Score: 1

      My Dad wrote several books on his 3 series and 5mx to the extent that he had worn groves into the plastic. I actually first learnt to program on the 3 series while bored in a caravan.

    7. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Jerom · · Score: 1

      I would still pay good money for an up to date pda with a psion 5 series form factor. I loved the shape when closed (could slide into a pocket easily), and the ergonomy of the keyboard.

    8. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Running on a pair of AA batteries, my Psions would run for weeks, not days. (And carrying an extra pair of AAs was not a burden...) These things were marvels of engineering and being on all the time could be used in an instant. Problem with the 5 series is the flexible cable between keyboard and screen would eventually fracture. But it was hard years ago to get anyone to service it and impossible now. And like the old DOS programs -- one had huge amounts of functionality with very small resource costs. And a tiny keyboard that one could touch type on -- even with big fingers. And it was there for me, not a leash remotely tethering me to someone else. I miss it and have found nothing since that even comes close...

    9. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You have poor taste in electronics.

    10. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Well.. if you want to confirm how good is your "touch". What about you get yourself an iPhone or an iPad?

    11. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      A while ago I realized every single manufacturer of electronic devices I loved has either gone bankrupt or shut down that particular division. Here's my list in no particular order:

      - Psion 5, 5MX, 5MX Pro - Palm III, Vx, m500 - Sony Clie NR70, NX70, TH55 and many others - Nokia E71, N900, N9

      I hold a particular soft spot for Psion though, as their devices were truly works of art. It took a decade for the same level of integration between the OS and component applications to be matched. The hardware was (almost) bulletproof, with the 5 series sliding keyboard being a truly impressive piece of engineering. However having a battery life measured in DAYS is still a pipe dream...

      I do seem to have a knack for picking dying technologies though. A friend joked that I should be given a free Windows phone, that will certainly spell its demise.

      Would you like my wife's iPhone?

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    12. Re:I have the kiss of death for awesome technology by Duncan+J+Murray · · Score: 1

      Me too. My Psion 5mx sits next to my bed with CF card in, and I use it as an alarm clock. Nothing has come close to it in terms of a 'personal organiser' - the Agenda program is the clearest and most reliable calendar application short of a filofax.

      The only problem is I can't sync it with my google calendar, which is a real problem nowadays (my wife and I share calendars so we can plan things without having to ring each other up all the time).

      I would also appreciate a modern psion 5mx. A device not designed for consumption, but rather for creation. A mono lcd screen would be fine, and nowadays it could all be made a bit slimmer, with a similar keyboard. It could be marketed to those who like writing and appreciate a silent, non-flashing, non-connected device with 1 week battery life.

  9. Dude, chill. by KingSkippus · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Dude, chill. Seriously. It's not that big a deal. In fact, if it was copied with your name still attached to it, if anything, it might help you sell more books. You were credited, after all, which is a lot better than some authors receive.

    This offense rates maybe a "slightly miffed" reaction at most. The guy who copied it isn't keeping you from feeding your family. At worst he cost you a few pennies in advertising revenue, except that since you admitted that you took the original down, he's not even costing you that. On principle, you're right, but to be brutally honest, your melodramatic "woe is me" posts are making you come off as a bit of a tool, and thus unsympathetic, in spite of it.

    Every creative person in the world has to live with their stuff being taken now and then. Writers, musicians, painters, future theorists, computer programmers, the list goes on and on. Such is the cost of creating something and putting it out there. Sure, you can wallow in anger and misery, or you can take it as a compliment that you actually created something worth copying, which means that you very likely have the capability of creating something worth monetary value.

    1. Re:Dude, chill. by thegarbz · · Score: 2

      To be brutally honest, you are a patronising asshole. Seriously.

      If you regard copying your stuff as free advertising and a compliment that's weird but up to you, but it's NOT up to you whether evanak is permitted to be angry.

      Dude, chill. Seriously. It's not that big a deal.
      by KingSkippus

    2. Re:Dude, chill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      What a total dick-head you are to write that reply. This guy created something and merely wanted to benefit from his own work. That many other people have also had their work misappropriated is not an excuse.

    3. Re:Dude, chill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      You will be robbed this week and then you will be able to talk from a position of authority.

    4. Re:Dude, chill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Ha, Evan comes off as less a tool and more a lunatic... Needs to stop forgetting those happy pills.

    5. Re:Dude, chill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Wrote something then deleted it. This is no different from it appearing on a cache or archive site. It still has the author's name against it, attribution is present. Perhaps evenak would do better to spent less time wasting in online forums and doing something, you know, like working?

    6. Re:Dude, chill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      Calm down Evan. Having some text... bits duplicated from your website isn't the same as being robbed. My RSS reader archives the text of blogs I read, am I robbing them? Good luck putting food on your families table with the maturity and anger issues of a 14 year old.

      Had they removed your name, I might have sympathy for you, but even then your reaction would be over the top.

    7. Re:Dude, chill. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Every creative person in the world has to live with their stuff being taken now and then

      No they don't. In the real world, if you blatantly copied someone's work and passed it off as your own, you would be sued, and quite rightly. That sort of behaviour has been illegal for hundreds of years.

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    8. Re:Dude, chill. by tehcyder · · Score: 1

      Perhaps evenak would do better to spent less time wasting in online forums and doing something, you know, like working?

      And what, precisely, would be the point of his working if everyone then just took his work for nothing? Or do you mean working as in "selling plastic action figures of the writer"?

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    9. Re:Dude, chill. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you blatantly copied someone's work and passed it off as your own

      There in lies the rub. Nobody passed it off as their own. If you followed the link, the article was fully accredited to the author. Nothing illegal about it, no different than what archive.org does or an offline reading tool in your browser.

      Had they removed his name, it would totally be illegal.

    10. Re:Dude, chill. by painandgreed · · Score: 1

      Dude, chill. Seriously. It's not that big a deal.

      No, it's just not that big a deal to you.

      Outside of all copyright and fair use claims, valid or not, there is a certain shock to find out something of yours, that you thought you had control over, it out in the wild be spread around without your control. It could be original work, photos, forum posts, or whatever. Even if used in a reverent manner, it can seem like a violation and wrong. Indeed, if used in a parody or joking manner making fun of your work is probably a better fair use case than not. Sure, we should all realize that once we put stuff out on the web, its out there and essentially out of your control and there are certainly fair use cases where it can be reposted legally, but it probably is always a shock if unexpected. Let him rant and get it out of his system (and hope nobody finds stuff on the web that you've put out there that pushes your buttons).

  10. Is this the same PSION by Old+Wolf · · Score: 1

    as Psion Flight Simulator??

    The Speccy games you thought were good until you tried, oh, every other game

    1. Re:Is this the same PSION by Bowdie · · Score: 1
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    2. Re:Is this the same PSION by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      as Psion Flight Simulator??

      Flight Simulation? Yes, it is.

      I remember playing the ZX81 version of it, and while that was undoubtedly basic- because the ZX81 itself *was* basic!- it was quite impressive given the limitations of the machine.

      The Speccy games you thought were good until you tried, oh, every other game

      What were you comparing them against? Later games? Psion's games were all (AFAIK) released very early on in the Spectrum's life and look decent by the standards of that time.

      As with many home computers, the standard of games in general rose significantly as time went on. Later ones often made the older ones look primitive in comparison as programmers got to grips with the machine, learned from the older games, standards rose and (I assume) better development systems became available.

      I never played the Spectrum version of Flight Simulation, but there's a video of it on YouTube and it looks quite decent for 1982.

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    3. Re:Is this the same PSION by wjousts · · Score: 1

      Fuck Flight Simulator. This is the same company that made the Horace games!

    4. Re:Is this the same PSION by Dogtanian · · Score: 1

      Fuck Flight Simulator. This is the same company that made the Horace [wikipedia.org] games!

      That confused me- I thought that was made by Melbourne House's development team, and indeed the Wikipedia article doesn't even mention Psion (except in relation to a Psion Series 3 port years later).

      Yet World of Spectrum had it on their list of Psion games and the game and front cover mention both companies. Perhaps Psion acquired the rights and sold it through Sinclair?

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    5. Re:Is this the same PSION by wjousts · · Score: 1

      The Wikipedia article on Psion does mention Horace (at least on the Sinclair Spectrum). Perhaps Psion just did the Spectrum port?

  11. Meh. by adolf · · Score: 1

    I've done some work with Motorola's portable business-oriented gadgets, mostly stuff that showed up with their acquisition of Symbol Technologies, and all I can say is this: Meh.

    Everything I've used from them is either poorly supported or negatively supported. Documentation that is either far too lengthy and wrong or just plain non-existent. Software that, in the best case, barely works. Firmware full of bugs. 802.11 radios that don't really like dealing with 802.11. No ability to get anything pushed up the ladder to the dudes who can actually fix stuff, no matter how many thousand units you'd love to buy if the fucking things would actually work.

    Based on this dreary track record of failure, frustration, and despair, I hasten to say that I'm not looking forward seeing what comes out of this deal.

    (I'd post more details, but dealing with other Motorola products that actually work (such as their 2-way radios) is a big part of my bread-and-butter, and I'm allergic to posting as AC.)

    1. Re:Meh. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

      if you need something fixed drop me a mail.
      dj _ germain at yahoo dot co dot uk - lost my password for the site and its taking ages to get my password resent..

    2. Re:Meh. by rlwhite · · Score: 1

      My company is a Motorola Solutions partner, and I'm currently developing on the ET1. Let's just say it's a clunkier version of the Xoom, 2 years later and stuck on Android 2.3.x for a price an order of magnitude higher than a consumer Android tablet. If they don't do better with the ET2, they'll be in serious trouble. We've also developed enterprise apps on the consumer Android tablets and iPads, and we're doing better business with the consumer devices.

    3. Re:Meh. by adolf · · Score: 1

      Oh, we're full of Motorola TLAs here, too, fwiw.

      The only explanation I have for such atrocities is that the market (which is driven by software at the moment) is simply moving too fast for them to be able to keep up, even on high-margin items. By the time the thing gets even close to finished, it's already very outdated compared to everything else, and few people want to spend that sort of money on old tech when they're looking for the auspices of new tech.

      The product then bombs, never really gets finished (even though it's been released) because the sales numbers can't support it, and then the vicious cycle repeats for the next product...

      Currently it seems like it's better to buy 100 semi-disposable cheap devices that actually work than 10 that are allegedly ruggedized but which can never be as practical or useful.

  12. Re:Slashdot auto-pilot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    that story was posted a couple of few ago. go look through the history, or use google to search the site.

  13. PDA -inventor by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Please note apple, they invented it so try not to sue them as well.

  14. Hemlines & lapel widths. Also pissing. by Hognoxious · · Score: 1

    When they split they're becoming more focused & agile or concentrating on core competences. When they merge they're diversifying or seeking synergies.

    It's fashion, plus new CEOs trying to mark their territory.

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  15. Re:Slashdot auto-pilot by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    No, the story was posted hours later. Look at the time. Makes me wonder if Slashdot outsourced editing to the other side of the world.

  16. The real question everybody should be asking... by wjousts · · Score: 1

    ...Is, does Motorola now hold the rights to the Horace games?

    I wanna see a gritty 3D reboot of that series! Horace goes skiing as an FPS? A Horace MMORPG?

  17. Not plagiarism by SteveFoerster · · Score: 2

    Copyright infringement yes, plagiarism, no. Plagiarism is the use of what someone else has written without crediting them. This site didn't do that. Similarly, one can plagiarize from work that's in the public domain.

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    1. Re:Not plagiarism by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 1

      It's copyright infringement too, because the article is being republished without permission, but I was commenting more in reaction to this:

      PS - The site that stole my work has fine print saying "All rights reserved" on the bottom of their page .... so they steal people's work ... and then claim the rights to it. Nice.

    2. Re:Not plagiarism by SteveFoerster · · Score: 1

      I won't argue that he's not a douche. But even that is not plagiarism, which is the false claim specifically of authorship, not of rights.

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    3. Re:Not plagiarism by Barefoot+Monkey · · Score: 1

      You're right. I guess I was arguing more from imagination than anything else - after actually going to the site it's clear who the author is. Copyright infringement is what I should have said in the first place.

  18. Re:Slashdot auto-pilot by tehcyder · · Score: 1

    Makes me wonder if Slashdot outsourced editing to the other side of the world.

    Why or how would you outsource something that doesn't appear to exist?

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  19. Bit Ironic by Duncan+J+Murray · · Score: 1

    Given that the doomed partnership between motorola and psion to produce the first smartphone was often cited as the reason for the demise of psion in the consumer market.

    http://stevelitchfield.com/historyofpsion.htm - see the paragraph 'the fall'

    and this is was the machine that never was...

    http://mobileopera.com/odin

    D

  20. User-agent: ia_archiver Disallow: / by tepples · · Score: 1

    How is this really different than me archiving something I like that isn't around anymore

    In such a case, you aren't redistributing.

    or hell the internet archive (archive.org)

    The Wayback Machine obeys robots.txt.

    All those pictures in the article, did you take them? Or are you just presenting them accredited to the photographer.

    Used under an explicit license, I'll assume for the sake of argument.

  21. Which Motorola is Which? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 0

    Motorola

    Google Motorola

    Psion Motorola

    ???

  22. Patent for Psion 5 folding mechanism. by UpnAtom · · Score: 1

    15 year since Psion 5 was released. I imagine it's up by now. Amazed no-one bought it from Psion 10 years ago.

    Still, people want the screen on the outside now tho I see MS is back to the laptop with detachable keyboard idea.