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Why 'Nigerian Scammers' Say They're From Nigeria

angry tapir writes "'Nigerian scams' (also known as '419 scams' but more accurately called 'advance fee fraud') continue to clog up inboxes with tales of fantastic wealth for the recipient. The raises the question: Do people still fall for this rubbish? The emails often outline ridiculous scenarios but promise millions if a person offers to help get money out of a country. The reason for the ridiculous scenarios seems obvious in retrospect: According to research by Cormac Herley at Microsoft, scammers are looking for the most gullible people, and their crazy emails can help weed out people who are savvy enough to know better. Contrary to what people believe, the scams aren't 'free' for the scammers (PDF): sending an email might have close to zero cost attached, but the process of getting money out of someone can be quite complicated and incurs costs (for example, recruiting other parties to participate in the scam). So at the end of the day, the scammer wants to find people who will almost certainly fall for the scam and offer a good return."

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  1. NSS by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "According to research by Cormac Herley at Microsoft, scammers are looking for the most gullible people"

    Well no shit sherlock!

    1. Re:NSS by Riceballsan · · Score: 3, Insightful

      While that is obvious, I would say the fact that they are intentionally terrible is at least somewhat less obvious than it seems. I always figured they were trying to set the bar at getting as many people to bite as possible, and simply had the spelling errors and horrible stories as a result of not being bright or skilled at English. The idea of specifically avoiding people who are stupid enough to bite, but might catch on down the road, is somewhat new to me.

    2. Re:NSS by Dr_Barnowl · · Score: 5, Insightful

      It could be the same phenomenon that causes Intelligent Design advocates to exclaim - "My gosh, it's inconceivable that it wasn't deliberate!" ; 419 scams are just a successful phenotype (or memotype?) that happens to fit a niche. Their total incompetence selects a very particular kind of credulous idiot that previously would not have been available in such numbers, but the internet produces a global village, with a ready supply of village idiots. Interpreting it as being an intentional tactic may be reading too much into it.

  2. Waste their time by Martin+S. · · Score: 5, Insightful

    is therefore a good tactic, perhaps when we get these we should make a response, to lower their average rate of return.

    1. Re:Waste their time by HyperQuantum · · Score: 5, Insightful

      But having to do that would also waste our time. Are you willing to do that?

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      I am not really here right now.
    2. Re:Waste their time by advid.net · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With a 2mn quick email you can easily waste 15 - 30mn of scammer's time.

      Repeat a few time. Multiply by the number of scammer's prospects.

      The scammer would need a whole life to deal with each spam shot.

    3. Re:Waste their time by nospam007 · · Score: 3, Insightful

      "But having to do that would also waste our time. Are you willing to do that?"

      People who spend their days trolling here and every other forum they visit have the time, it's what they do.

      And remember people, it's not a real problem anyway, because:

      You cannot con an honest man!

  3. Trick question by hairyfish · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The real answer is because they are actually from Nigeria. I think the researchers are over-thinking this problem.

  4. Re:Finding they right people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Out of curiosity; are your neighbors also very religious?

    No I'm not trolling.

    I have a neighbor who is very religious (Fundie Baptist Christian), reasonably educated (BS Business) and he is very gullible. I'm just wondering if it's a pattern .....

  5. Re:Finding they right people by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Yes there is a pattern. They tend to believe in fairy tales.

    p.s. I'm not trolling either.

  6. Maybe I missed it but... by Dave+Emami · · Score: 5, Insightful

    The article didn't explain why Nigeria, instead of (say) Kenya or Uganda -- or Sri Lanka or Bolivia or Uzbekistan.

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    "The Greens lynched a hacker in Chicago. Last month, but I think the body's still hanging from the old Water Tower."
  7. Re:please ignore by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 2, Insightful

    You are using your (first world) time to bind their (third world) time. I don't quite see how that's a winning proposition.

  8. Re:please ignore by JaredOfEuropa · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Suppose an hour's worth of stalling on our end costs them an hour of their time. Is it worth it? Well, if there's a million of us doing this and only (say) 50 scammers, it'll keep them busy for a couple of years. Kind of like how sending 100 HTTP requests from your computer to a website can bring a large server farm to its knees... if you have tens of thousands of other computers doing the same thing at the same time.

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    If construction was anything like programming, an incorrectly fitted lock would bring down the entire building...
  9. Re:please ignore by Chrisq · · Score: 4, Insightful

    These people are desperate and without work in their country except for criminal con tricks such as this so the most compassionate thing you could do is ignore them and continue to educate your community about the trap.

    How weird. Would you also advocate compassionately letting drug smugglers through but educating people on the harm of drugs, if they come from third-world countries?

  10. Entertainment by DrYak · · Score: 4, Insightful

    You are using your (first world) time

    Some call this "entertainment".

    Lot's of people have different hobbies.
    There are people who like to play the latest "Call for Warfare" on their "PlayBox"
    There are people who like to hack a Linux into their toaster.
    There are people who like to build an all purpose robot using a cluster of arduinos

    And then, there are the people who get their kicks from baiting scamers (the whole "feeling superior by scamming the scamer"). All in all it's a rather cheap form of hobby, because it doesn't require much beyond time. But on the other side it's less healthy than going outdoor for some sports.

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    1. Re:Entertainment by TheCarp · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Having done it on one or two occasions, it is quite a bit of fun, and doesn't take that much time. An occasional quick email, some time chatting on IM while doing other things. It doesn't take much to keep them baited.

      Also they send you things. Usually fake money orders, of course, and that must cost them even more. Sure not much, and I bet the postage isn't much either but...every packet counts.

      The main thing I found myself having to do was resist my impulse to help them. Its so tempting to correct their english, but the last thing I want to do is help them seem more legitimate to the next guy.

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      "I opened my eyes, and everything went dark again"
  11. Is it safe? by Latent+Heat · · Score: 4, Insightful
    I have no ethical problem "scam baiting" or pulling the chain of scammers.

    But is this really such a low risk passtime?

    The idea is yeah, yeah, 3rd World dimwits, let's see how stupid they are. But I would think that con artists of all cultures might have a certain sophistication about them, and if they lack sophistication, they might have some "muscle" they could apply if you got them angry.

    I say, if you really, really know what you are doing, have your fun, but unless I knew these guys couldn't figure out personal info on me, I wouldn't poke them with sticks just to get a reaction.

  12. You're overthinking it by Guppy06 · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Con" is short for "confidence," in that a con artist plays with the victim's sense of confidence (usually in themselves). Looking like a moron inspires the victim's confidence in their own intelligence, their own ability to outsmart the con artist. Making you think that you can come out ahead, one way or another, is the entire point of the con.

    If you think you can out-con the con artist, you've already lost. That's exactly where they want you.

    So it's not about "aiming for the least informed" as much as "looking so inept as to be harmless."