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Google To Pay $0 To Oracle In Copyright Case

An anonymous reader writes "In a hearing in the US District Court today, it was determined that Google will pay a net total of nothing for Oracle's patent claims against them. In fact, Google is given 14 days to file an application for Oracle to pay legal fees to Google (in a similar manner to how things are done for frivolous lawsuits). However, it is not quite peaches and roses for Google, as Oracle is planning on appealing the decision in the case.'"

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  1. Re:Oracle by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    Previous rulings are viewed as the starting point for appeals, and it's up to Oracle to try and prove why that ruling was flawed. Especially in a case like this, where a higher judge is much less likely to understand the matter, they'll treat Alsup's judgment very highly and are unlikely to overrule it.

  2. Re:Bad Article by mug+funky · · Score: 4, Informative

    it started on patents. when bullshit was called, it moved to copyright infringement of the headers.

    that's the big problem - to not use a car analogy, think of a program as like a giant recipe. the code is the method, the headers are the ingredients list. Oracle wanted to assert imaginary copyright on the lists of ingredients for Java.

    i use the food analogy because food recipes are not copyrightable. you can steal all the recipes from all the cookbooks and publish them yourself and be perfectly fine, so long as you don't copy the photos or pontificating between recipes.

    also note that cookbooks sell very very well in spite of this.

  3. Re:Bad Article by oxdas · · Score: 4, Informative

    It was a two part trial. One part was on copyright infringement and the other part was on patent infringement. The outcome was that Google violated Oracle copyrights on 9 lines of code (out of 15 million) and some test cases. Google was not found to have infringed on any Oracle patents. The judge decided that the damages amounted to $0 for the copyright violations. Oracle can appeal.

  4. Re:Weird ruling by UnknowingFool · · Score: 4, Informative
    Not according to the judge. Psystar lost both on copyright and DMCA counts.

    After full briefing and oral argument, Psystar was found liable for infringement of Apple's copyrights in Mac OS X by violating Apple's exclusive reproduction right, distribution right, and right to create derivative works (Dkt. No. 214 at 10). Psystar was also found liable for contributory copyright infringement by intentionally inducing and encouraging its customers to directly infringe Apple's copyrights through its sale of unauthorized copies of Mac OS X to the public (Id. at 10). 1 Finally, Psystar was found liable for violating Sections 1201(a)(1), 1201(a)(2), and 1201(b)(1) of the DMCA for circumvention and trafficking in circumvention devices (Id. at 13-14). Each of Psystar's asserted defenses were rejected as either waived or without merit.

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  5. Ztimulated? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

    "Laser" is a fucking acronym for "Light Amplification by Stimulated Emission of Radiation"

    Until "Ztimulated" is a word, stop throwing a "z" in there, you fucking kumquat!

  6. Re:Weird ruling by silentcoder · · Score: 4, Informative

    There is a huge difference between "can be described mathematically" and "actually IS a mathematical formula".
    Every computer program ever written IS a mathematical formula. It's not something that can be DESCRIBED by a mathematical formula (which is what you're talking about) - it is the formula ITSELF.

    That's what programs are. You have fallen for the smoke and mirrors.

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  7. Re:Oracle by w_dragon · · Score: 4, Informative

    You can pull it up on Google Maps and take a look at the island. The 2% not owned is probably most of Lanai City and the airport. The rest of the island looks to be pretty much undeveloped, just a few roads. Even in Hawaii, land is cheap if you need to build your own roads, wells, sewage treatment plants, and are in a hurricane zone.