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U.S. Judge Grants Apple Injunction Against Samsung Galaxy Tab

Bill Dimm writes "Apple scores a win against Samsung over a design patent. U.S. District Judge Lucy Koh issued a ruling granting Apple's request for a preliminary injunction preventing Samsung from selling its Galaxy Tab 10.1 in the United States. She wrote, 'Although Samsung has a right to compete, it does not have a right to compete unfairly by flooding the market with infringing products. ... While Samsung will certainly suffer lost sales from the issuance of an injunction, the hardship to Apple of having to directly compete with Samsung’s infringing products outweighs Samsung’s harm in light of the previous findings by the Court."

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  1. People must be blind.. by intellitech · · Score: 5, Insightful

    People must be blind if they can't see how much current intellectual property regulations are stifling innovation.

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    1. Re:People must be blind.. by pete6677 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      This is why IP related injunctions are such bullshit in the modern economy. Patents long ago stopped protecting the small inventor and are now just used to enforce a new version of the medieval guild system. It is not possible to invent any worthwhile product or service anymore without stepping on multiple patents, many of which are legally dubious.

    2. Re:People must be blind.. by EdIII · · Score: 5, Informative

      Not a patent case?

      On December 2, 2011, this Court issued an order denying Apple’s motion for a preliminaryinjunction. Apple sought an injunction based on Samsung’s alleged infringement of Apple’sDesign Patent Nos. D618,677 (“the D’677 Patent”), D593,087 (“the D’087 Patent”), D504,889(“the D’889 Patent”), and based on Samsung’s alleged infringement of Apple’s U.S. Patent No.7,469,381 (“the ’381 Patent”).

      Certainly sounds like a patent case to me.

      This is just more evidence of how the system is broken. I can see the difference between an iPad and Tab. It's fucking ridiculous to own "rounded edges" and bullshit like that.

      It's so completely obvious that you would want a tablet shaped like that, and to be thin.

      You asked for an example of where a company was not "lazily" duplicating designs. Well, I would argue that is not duplicating something tremendously fucking obvious.

      That's like somebody being able to say with a straight face that is non obvious to make paper, that you want to write, on, "like all flat and shit".

      Yes, your honor. We feel we should be protected and be the only ones to have flat paper. Thank you.

    3. Re:People must be blind.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Informative

      Apple already spent 10 years suing Microsoft over "look-and-feel". Now they're IP butt-buddies and share patents and other bodily fluids.

    4. Re:People must be blind.. by zaphod777 · · Score: 5, Insightful

      That's because no one wants to buy them.

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    5. Re:People must be blind.. by LordLucless · · Score: 5, Insightful

      If anybody could have thought of it why didn't they?

      They did. My dining room table has rounded edge. So did my old TV. So does my keyboard. They all predated the iPad. Apple patented "round corners on a table form factor". They weren't the first ones to think of it, just the first ones to patent it.

      The fact Apple's products consistently have some of the best designs

      That's not a fact, that's an opinion. Facts need to objective, that is subjective.

      suggests that they are doing something innovative, non-obvious

      No, no it doesn't. It could also mean they are doing progressive, iterative improvements, that may be better than the competition, but only because they have taken the next logical step in product development. Every time someone brings out a product that is a little faster, smaller, cheaper or shinier doesn't necessarily mean they've suddenly come up with an innovative new concept.

      putting in some real work

      Wonderful. So's the guy who collects my garbage. He doesn't get a patent on that either, even if he does it really well.

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    6. Re:People must be blind.. by xenobyte · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Well, there is Windows Phone 7 and the Nokia Lumia. And while I don't personally care for either, their approach is fairly fresh and distinctive and, unlike the galaxy, does not slavishly imitate the iPhone.

      Oh wait. Apple's not suing Microsoft and Nokia over WP7 and the Lumia, are they?

      Apple's patents on the look and overall design of their iPad are basically null and void. There's prior art galore and they're just imitating what scifi tv and movies have been using for decades before the first idea about an iPad lit up the empty space between the ears of the Apple designer that 'invented' it.

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    7. Re:People must be blind.. by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Informative

      Worse, the iPad isn't even the same as the original registered design.

      Here's the design: http://www.scribd.com/doc/61944044/Community-Design-000181607-0001

      Here's an iPad: http://www.tablettweet.com/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/dimensions_20100127.jpg

      The roundness of the corners, the width of the bezels, the thickness of the pad...all completely different.

      Apple is arguing over exactly this sort of detail but they don't even follow it themselves. The Samsung is at least as different from the registered design as the iPad is.

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    8. Re:People must be blind.. by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Informative

      Well, there is Windows Phone 7 and the Nokia Lumia. And while I don't personally care for either, their approach is fairly fresh and distinctive and, unlike the galaxy, does not slavishly imitate the iPhone.

      Oh wait. Apple's not suing Microsoft and Nokia over WP7 and the Lumia, are they?

      Apple's patents on the look and overall design of their iPad are basically null and void. There's prior art galore and they're just imitating what scifi tv and movies have been using for decades before the first idea about an iPad lit up the empty space between the ears of the Apple designer that 'invented' it.

      I'm not sure you know what design patents are. Never mind, eh?

      They're not the same as a patent on a widget that has never been seen before, such as the patents that go into the 3G standard, or the patent on the original triple expansion engine. Design patents have a more general focus and are not necessarily invalidated by previous designs - in actual fact, they exist among other design patents that are very similar.

      Consider Chevrolet's Corvette. They have a design patent on the design of the car. If you made a visual copy of the Corvette without their permission they could sue you. Nothing about the Corvette is "innovative" or invalidated by prior art - the car is a mature and well understood product with thousands of variations, but even so, the law protects Chevy if you try to sell a knock-off Corvette.

      Apple's design patents on the iPad are not invalidated by the prior existence of tablets, and there are many, many other tablets before and since that are not the subject of lawsuits. What you can't do is make a copy of the iPad (within certain limits - that's what the lawsuit is for) without being sued. This goes right through the product line, from the way it looks to the way it is packaged (the "trade dress", which Samsung also copied uncannily). It is not just about having rounded corners, or the fact that Patrick Stewart used a prop version of a tablet on the TNG set in 1995 means no one can file design patents.

      The Corvette is still covered by design patents even though there's plenty of prior art to "invalidate" the "non-innovation" that went into making what is a very common product - a sports car.

      Now, if there's a unique innovation on that car (and I picked a bad example - I think the Vette still has a live axle, so even the Amish consider it obsolete technology), but let's say they innovate a new form of suspension. They *can* patent that if no one has done it before, beyond a simple design patent, and sue people who use that patented technology in another car, even if it looks nothing like the Corvette.

      TL:DR; there's a difference between a design patent and a method/hardware patent.

    9. Re:People must be blind.. by jo_ham · · Score: 5, Informative

      But looking at their history its obvious that if it wasn't for Apple, they likely wouldn't have changed the designs of their tablets which, prior to the iPad 2010 release, were completely different:

      Blah blah blah blah. You're completely avoiding the point. Just because Samsung changed their designed (I don't know if that's true, since I didn't bother to read the non-sequiteur links you posted) doesn't make the iPad an innovative shape.

      Go read the iPad patent.

      They even cite the TC1100 as prior art. How on earth can the iPad be patentable with the TC1100 having existed.

      It is a rectangular slab with rounded corners. It has 3 buttons on the front instead of 1 and was the thinnest and had the smallest bezel that was actually practical to make when it came out. Oh and it's grey.

      So, the iPad is thinner (due to a bunch of innovations I would note that people other than Apple have petented to do with TFT, backlight battery and fabrication design), a differrent colour and slightly more featureless.

      So, where's the innovation?

      You don't understand what a design patent is, do you?

      We'll wait while you go and find out, and why previous patents can be cited in the new filing. You might then understand why the iPad is patentable, in the same way that a Ford Mustang is patentable, even though it was not the first car.

  2. Re:People must be copying.. by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Funny

    Perhaps you missed the ".1", that's a pretty innovative bit at the end there.

  3. I don't need a tablet by SpaghettiPattern · · Score: 5, Interesting

    I don't need a tablet ... But I almost feel obliged to buy a Galaxy. Out of sheer spite.

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  4. Re:People must be copying.. by Joce640k · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What was so "innovative" about the shape of the corners on the iPad that it needs this much legal protection?

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  5. Re:People must be copying.. by ozmanjusri · · Score: 5, Insightful

    What was so "innovative" about the shape of the corners on the iPad that it needs this much legal protection?

    Nothing, but patent trolling is one of the fastest growth industries in the US. In addition, it prevents newer, more agile companies disrupting established revenue streams with novel products. It's no surprise companies like Apple are joining in.

    Patent trolls curb innovation and cost the U.S. $29B in 2011

    A new study shows that patent lawsuits are not only costing the country billions of dollars but are also placing the burden on small and medium-size companies, which slows invention.

    http://news.cnet.com/8301-1023_3-57461110-93/patent-trolls-curb-innovation-and-cost-the-u.s-$29b-in-2011/

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