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Seth MacFarlane Helps LOC Acquire Carl Sagan Papers

dsinc writes with news of a but of altruism on the part Family Guy's creator. From the article: "Seth MacFarlane once included a gag on his animated TV comedy 'Family Guy' about an 'edited for rednecks' version of Carl Sagan's 'Cosmos,' featuring an animated Sagan dubbed over to say that the earth is 'hundreds and hundreds' of years old. Jokes aside, his admiration for Sagan runs deep. The Library of Congress announced Wednesday that, thanks to MacFarlane's generosity, it has acquired the personal papers of the late scientist and astronomer, who spoke to mass audiences about the mysteries of the universe and the origins of life. While MacFarlane never owned Sagan's papers, he covered the undisclosed costs of donating them to the library."

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  1. Deserves Praise by MonsterTrimble · · Score: 4, Insightful

    No matter what you think of Seth MacFarlane's body of work (early Family Guy is good, the rest is meh at best) he should be commended.

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    1. Re:Deserves Praise by steelfood · · Score: 4, Insightful

      he's a guy with a deep sense of personal morals and an appreciation for intellectual pursuits - even if his work doesn't often promote such things

      On the contrary. Family guy satires the lack of morals and intelligence. Not only that, but there are numerous gems spread across the show that hint at these qualities.

      If you think Family Guy is only about some dumb family doing dumb shit (but with a brilliant baby and a smart dog), then you're not watching it correctly. The jokes may often appear to be off-color, but the humor isn't in the joke itself, but in the making of the joke.

      I'd suggest you give it another shot, starting with some of the better episodes. Don't remember which ones off the top of my head, but I'm sure Google can solve that problem. Just beware of spoilers.

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    2. Re:Deserves Praise by The+Mister+Purple · · Score: 4, Insightful

      I remember an episode where one of the characters made reference to Benjamin Disraeli. There is the obligatory cut to an animated Disraeli, who looks straight at the viewer and says, "You don't even know who I am." Beautiful!

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    3. Re:Deserves Praise by FrootLoops · · Score: 4, Insightful

      even if his work doesn't often promote such things [as personal morals and an appreciation for intellectual pursuits]

      I don't think you've watched enough of it if to say that. Some counterexamples:
        * A Hero Sits Next Door: a disabled guy gets added to the cast; Peter reacts badly at first but becomes friends later
        * If I'm Dyin', I'm Lyin': Peter starts a religion, Lois says it's wrong, God punishes him for his arrogance, Peter repents.
        * The Thin White Line: Brian gets addicted to cocaine and eventually takes responsibility for it by going to rehab

      Some of the MacFarlane characters are pretty much immune to personal responsibility considerations, but they're portrayed as highly unrealistic--eg. Stewie (Family Guy), Roger (American Dad), partly Quagmire (Family Guy). The more realistic characters often have strong moral centers--eg. Lois and usually Bryan (Family Guy)--and I think these are the ones you're expected to identify with. For instance, I'm reminded of Lois in You May Now Kiss the... Uh... Guy Who Receives:

      Lois Griffin: Wait a minute. Are you saying that two straight people who absolutely hate each other have more of a right to be married than gay people who love each other?!
      Mrs. Pewterschmidt: Well, that's what we raised you to believe.

      I'd say the audience is expected to identify with Lois and take her view on the matter, considering how poor the rebuttal is. The Carl Sagan bit is the same way, and there are numerous other examples where the audience is expected to take a particular (IMO good) stance.

      Family Guy and American Dad morality is a mixed bag, though it's frequently (usually?) good if you throw out the unrealistic characters' lack of consequences. Intellectual pursuits really aren't promoted much though.

    4. Re:Deserves Praise by PeanutButterBreath · · Score: 3, Insightful

      With South Park it's obvious that people put some thought into the satire and try to convey a "moral lesson learned".

      Too obvious, IMO.

  2. should have been free? by Sebastopol · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Is anyone else kinda ticked-off that this was even necessary?

    Why weren't they just donated by the estate to the LOC? Is there something else at play here, or just a greedy estate?

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    1. Re:should have been free? by Sebastopol · · Score: 3, Insightful

      Good point: It didn't occur to me that collating and tabulating a lifetime's work isn't something an LOC employee is going to spend a year doing for free... although I assume the LOC has staff to do such things, maybe not. Plus I don't actually know the cost, thanks TFA.

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    2. Re:should have been free? by fahrbot-bot · · Score: 5, Insightful
      According to TFA:

      The papers — contained in more than 800 filing-cabinet drawers — include correspondence with other scientists, drafts of Sagan's academic articles and screenplay drafts for the movie "Contact," ... (emphasis mine)

      The cost of donating them might include sorting, collating and preparing the documents to actually be viewable and or some preservation. Often charitable recipients can't or don't want to handle this for private donations. Yes the LOC could probably pay for this, if they're allowed to, which I don't know if they are. (Imagine some idiot right-wing Congress critter, who doesn't believe the Universe exists, complaining about the LOC wasting the taxpayer's money, blah, blah, blah...)

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  3. Re:Also, he's the producer of the new Cosmos serie by iluvcapra · · Score: 5, Insightful

    From Hollywood Reporter:

    “Never more than at this moment in the modern era have we needed a profound reminder of the colossally important and exciting role that science, space exploration and the human quest for knowledge must continue to play in our development as a species,” said MacFarlane.

    Quite a serious side to the man. Clearly, menstruation and holocaust jokes are just his day job.

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  4. No Obligatory LoC Joke? by Rotag_FU · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I'm shocked that I haven't seen a Library of Congress as unit of measurement joke yet. It is unfortunate that the cost of donating the materials to the Library of Congress was undisclosed because then we could have a conversion factor for money to LoCs.