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Texas GOP Educational Platform Opposes Teaching Critical Thinking Skills

An anonymous reader writes "Texas Republican delegates met earlier this month to put together their 2012 platform. Much of this focused on the educational system. Alarmingly, they openly state that they oppose schools teaching critical thinking, on the grounds that it may challenge 'student's fixed beliefs' and undermine 'parental authority.' Page 12 of their official platform (PDF) discusses their thinking on teaching thinking."

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  1. Re:Breathless summary by the clueless by jhoegl · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Interesting rant.
    So, one would rather have a mindless zombie with the old style "dont question authority and stay on that production line" from the 50s.
    Pray tell.. where did all the thinkers come from then?
    You know why China's kids want to be more innovative and inventive like American kids? It is because they teach like you are preaching.
    You want innovation, critical thinking, you want drones to put tube in hole, you teach as proposed by Texas.

  2. Re:Beat them don't teach them! by thesandtiger · · Score: 5, Insightful

    How about letting teachers beat parents instead? It might actually be more effective.

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  3. Re:Critical Thinking by sco08y · · Score: 5, Insightful

    It's that ability to look beyond dogma, hyperbole, straw-man arguments, etc. and make your own decisions.

    And, you know, read a paragraph.

    Knowledge-Based Education – We oppose the teaching of Higher Order Thinking Skills (HOTS) (values clarification), critical thinking skills and similar programs that are simply a relabeling of Outcome-Based Education (OBE) (mastery learning) which focus on behavior modification and have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority.

    You lose.

  4. Re:Beat them don't teach them! by gatfirls · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Hmm you may be onto something. Funny, how doing so would be considered a violent crime while doing it to a developing child is a-ok.

  5. Re:Breathless summary by the clueless by retchdog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    i'm a liberal and i agree with your point. it's just impossible to codify "critical thinking," even before you add the realities of education: overworked, underpaid and sub-meritorious teachers (btw, i think these problems are endemic to our society; privatization/voucherification will mostly just let parents choose among desired flavors of substandard nutjobbery) who will inevitably use a mix of personal biases and bureaucratic checklists to evaluate "criticalness."

    unfortunately, the gop rejects science pretty much as an axiom (science != engineering, though they're both great), and this isn't new, see e.g. hayek's why i am not a conservative. i think that doing a good job of teaching science is the almost the only way to get to real critical thinking. it's not easy, and i don't think the Ds could manage it either, but from what i can see the gop just throws it out immediately.

    i can't help thinking that we're just fucked.

    and i recommend that everyone read the linked gop pamphlet. it's hilarious in its populist pandering; lines like ``We strongly oppose the listing of the dune sage brush lizard either as a threatened or an endangered species." are almost onion-like. yes, i'm sure that the dems' pamphlets are also full of silliness, but this is the exhibit of the day.

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  6. Re:Breathless summary by the clueless by amicusNYCL · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Do not fool yourself: through the tenuring process your values will change and you will feel you are special (and by special I mean 'better' than the rest of 'normal' people).

    Frankly, that sounds a lot like Wall Street, and the "financial elite". I'm trying to figure out how being valued for your knowledge and wisdom became a bad thing in this country.

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  7. Re:wow. by Black+Parrot · · Score: 5, Insightful

    "sanctity of life crom fertilization to grave"

    Actually, it's only from the moment of conception to the moment of birth. After that, tough shit if you starve, die from a treatable disease, get shot by someone from a higher social class, die in a war for the benefit of the rich and powerful, or get executed for a crime you didn't commit.

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  8. Re:Breathless summary by the clueless by NeutronCowboy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    And this is why the left in the US is completely being clobbered by the right. Too often insults, redefinitions and logical fallacies by the conservatives are met by "well, if I can figure out what they're really saying, we can maybe come to an agreement" by what amounts to the left. In other words, they're being nice in response to what is basically bullying.

    Here's the problem: anyone who argues like the initial poster is not looking for a rational discourse, for an enlightening discussion, or even for a solution to a problem. They are merely looking to get enough people onto their side.

    Definitely read up on the issue. But don't mistake the original post for an opening in a an honest discussion. It isn't.

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  9. I want kids, not pets by Just+Some+Guy · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Alarmingly, they openly state that they oppose schools teaching critical thinking, on the grounds that it may challenge 'student's fixed beliefs' and undermine 'parental authority.'

    As a parent, I don't want complete unquestioned authority over my kids' thoughts. I've made a long-standing habit of flat out lying to my kids and getting them to catch me in it. When one of them says, "Dad, I think you just made that up", then I think I've done my job as a parent.

    That doesn't mean I want complete, unquestioned disrespect. To channel my dad, it's my house and my rules. But I fully expect to have to defend my opinions to my kids. Even if they ultimately disagree with my point of view, at least I've taught them why I believe the way I do. And if I'm not able to satisfactorily explain and defend those opinions, maybe I need to reconsider them.

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  10. Re:Trollish summary by shutdown+-p+now · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They are explicitly saying that they oppose this HOTS/OBE/whatever because, I quote, it "have the purpose of challenging the student’s fixed beliefs and undermining parental authority." I don't care what OBE is. It may well be that it can and should be challenged on common sense grounds. But these dicks are saying that they're challenging it because it doesn't let them indoctrinate their kids.

  11. Re:Breathless summary by the clueless by FrootLoops · · Score: 5, Insightful

    They want students to believe whatever they're told to believe, and never question it.

    I doubt it. I imagine they very much want Muslim students to question their beliefs. What you probably mean is that they want students to believe whatever Christian and conservative doctrine they're told and never question it.

  12. Re:READ MY POST by Namarrgon · · Score: 5, Insightful

    I'm guessing he was taught who George Washington was and how to find the US, but little about applying critical thinking to a discussion. And he clearly prefers it that way.

    Maybe he's right about "higher order thinking skills" being broadly applied as a label for general (and not well tested) education reforms; I wouldn't know. But encouraging children to challenge their fixed beliefs is crucial in my books, even if it potentially undermines parental authority (speaking as a parent myself). Any party that explicitly discourages that should be kept well away from positions of authority.

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  13. Re:Totally understandable. by TheGratefulNet · · Score: 5, Insightful

    not a troll; the poster speaks the raw truth. hard to swallow if you are on the other side, but it really is true.

    current republicans are the poster children of doublespeak.

    clinging to 2000 year old mythology does not help their case, either. its part of the problem, in fact.

    modern man needs to pull himself out of this religious stupor. the more you try to keep this myth and 'us vs them' mentality going, the more you set us all, collectively, back.

    the word 'progress' is in progressive. note that progressive movement is 100% opposite of the current republican and so-called conservative movements. some of us want to move forward while quite a lot of americans are hell-bent (heh) on keeping us back in the middle ages.

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  14. Re:Totally understandable. by couchslug · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Of course. If one is able to embrace the nonsense of religion, any other lie is second nature.

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