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Delaware To Permit In-state Online Gambling

schwit1 writes "Delaware became the first state to enter the realm of legal online casino gambling Thursday with the governor's approval of legislation that allows for full-service betting websites offering slots play and games like roulette, poker and blackjack. Federal law limits online gambling to players within the state's borders, which will be verified using geolocation software. The state hopes to launch online gambling in 2013 and intends to make betting available on a variety of digital devices including smart phones and tablets."

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  1. A fool and his money... by wcrowe · · Score: 2, Insightful

    Even ignoring the obvious statistical problems with gambling, why would anyone play slots, roulette, or even blackjack and poker online? How can you be sure the game is honest?

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    1. Re:A fool and his money... by Assmasher · · Score: 4, Insightful

      How can you be sure it's honest at the casino in person? ;)

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  2. Proxy prices are now skyrocketing in Delaware... by Assmasher · · Score: 3, Insightful

    I wonder if the ISPs with a physical presence in Delaware had a hand in this?

    Hehe...

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  3. Queue by michaelmalak · · Score: 2

    Queue the proxies

  4. Proxy server? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 3, Insightful

    "Federal law limits online gambling to players within the state's borders, which will be verified using geolocation software."

    Apparently these people have never heard of an in-state proxy server. The people trying to limit this scheme to within-state activities are as dumb as the people paying the "stupid tax" to play the games.

    1. Re:Proxy server? by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

      These are the type of people who are too snotty to walk the hallway to their own I.T. department and ask.. "uh.. are we missing something here." They believe they know more than anyone else and I am sure they didn't even think of something like a proxy as they aren't even aware of it.

  5. State Revenue by twmcneil · · Score: 2, Insightful

    The Department of Finance estimates the new gambling offerings will generate $7.75 million in revenues for the state in fiscal 2013.

    Just wait until they figure out how much they could make by taxing legalized pot.

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    1. Re:State Revenue by MickyTheIdiot · · Score: 2

      I think you should wake up and look at our political situation.

      If someone thought they could make money off of it then it would be legal by now. No matter what you hear about "morals," there are none in the upper reaches of government right now. If someone thought they could make money the needed legislators would be bought off and it would be a reality.

    2. Re:State Revenue by i+kan+reed · · Score: 2

      You're ignoring that pharmacological companies operate on high-margin stuff. As in, if you can grow it in your back yard, they can't have a 1000% markup on products sold.

    3. Re:State Revenue by drinkypoo · · Score: 3, Insightful

      If someone thought they could make money off of it then it would be legal by now.

      Almost. If they thought they could make more money and acquire more power by making it legal than by keeping it illegal then they would do so. That's a somewhat different statement.

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    4. Re:State Revenue by boristdog · · Score: 4, Interesting

      Marijuana is illegal for the simple reason that some right wing religious nuts think it's 'bad'.

      I used to believe this. I also used to be 48 year-old who had never smoked marijuana.

      But then things happened in my life in the last couple years: I developed horrible acid reflux. I had a lot of trouble sleeping. I got arthritis in my foot. I got high blood pressure. Nothing really major, but I was suddenly getting old and having lots of aches and pains. My wife, a regular pot smoker, said "try this" and handed me her bong. But I couldn't smoke it, it hurt my lungs. So then she made me some magic brownies. Holy crap, it WAS like magic. All the problems went away. I could sleep, I had no pain, I had less stress, my digestion improved, my BP went down.

      I WAS taking over $150/month worth of various drugs for these conditions. And that's just the co-pay amount from insurance, no telling what actual amount is. Now I take...Well, probably $40 worth of cheap pot baked (haha) into brownies every month. It would be less if I could grow it, but I'll let someone else take that risk as long as it's illegal, besides, that's still cheap. I have a small brownie about every other evening and I have none of those problems.

      So I'm now a 50 year-old who has still never smoked marijuana. But I use it, and it is costing the pharmaceutical companies a few hundred a month in lost business.

      So don't discount the Big Pharma role in keeping it illegal. If I were them I would be scared, very scared.

    5. Re:State Revenue by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Marijuana is illegal for the simple reason that some right wing religious nuts think it's 'bad'.

      Also incorrect.

      It's the Law "Enforcement" and Incarceration lobbies that want to keep pot illegal; that shit's a cash cow to cops and prison owners.

      Imagine what would happen to the budget of police organizations and private prison owners (like Dick Cheney), if suddenly they had to release/stop arresting 1/3 - 1/2 of their "customers?"

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    6. Re:State Revenue by Beardo+the+Bearded · · Score: 2

      They've also got to have an excuse for all the police forces in the US to have paramilitary gear.

      "DrugS!!!"

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  6. Cell phone apps? by skine · · Score: 2

    To start, I don't live in Delaware.

    However, I live near Syracuse, NY, and my phone's IP registers in Boston, MA.

  7. The more I learn about human by geekoid · · Score: 3, Interesting

    neurology, the less I like legalized gambling.

    People like to think there is some sort of choice involved, but for a great many people it's an illusion of choice.
    If you have high dopemine levels, you're brain is more likely to come up with reasons, or a compulsion to gamble.

    This is why I am now against online gambling in the home, and gambling in places people must go to needs. Grocery stores etc.
    Here is an example:
    http://www.radiolab.org/2009/jun/15/seeking-patterns/

    Some of the details aren't 100% accurate, but close enough for the average person.

    You look at someone that is gambling there life away an think it's just a bad decision they can control may not be correct.

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    1. Re:The more I learn about human by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 5, Insightful

      The same can be said for any number of other things - but it's not your job, your responsibility, or your right to tell someone else how to live their life.

      It's extremely pretentious and arrogant to try to 'protect' another adult from something you think could harm them. At what point does that protection end? Will I not be allowed to go rock climbing because the dopamine is really forcing me to do it and it's dangerous? Or allowed to drink alcohol? Or anything else really. Live your own life, offer help where you can, but part of being human should be the freedom to screw up your life on your own terms once you are old enough to know better.

    2. Re:The more I learn about human by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 4, Insightful

      An addiction is an addiction is an addiction. You pleasure center in your brain doesn't care if it is heroin, porn, gambling, etc. it just wants to get it's fix. Banning activities of any kind becasue a small percentage of the population has a problem with it is ALWAYS a bad idea - doesn't matter what it is you are banning. Regulation and taxation to raise revenue to offer people with help for addiction is the proper way to address things like gambling and drugs.

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    3. Re:The more I learn about human by geekoid · · Score: 2, Interesting

      "An addiction is an addiction is an addiction."
      wrong, so I shufd assume the rest of your post is a spewed retread of many other myths regards addiction.

      "Banning activities of any kind becasue a small percentage of the population has a problem with it is ALWAYS a bad idea "
      and I was correct. surprise. with the added bonus that you total took what I said incorrectly. Did you actually read the post, or just scan the first sentence and them immediately start pound you keyboard with you meat hooks what frothing at the mouth? Or are you simple?

      Since history is full of example where restricting something has curbed it's use, I'll just assume you are simple.

      "Regulation and taxation to raise revenue to offer people with help for addiction is the proper way to address things like gambling and drugs.
      WTF? so you didn't read my post? Not allowing it in the homes, or in common ares like grocery stores IS regulation.
      Keep it in casinos and gambling establishments.

      People make for few decisions then they think they do. I mean, sure you may 'think' about something, but the decsion you rach was determined before the thought bubbled to the top of your brain, as it where.

      As I said in the post,m this is based on neurological science, not on a feeling, or a BS religious position. It is'in fact, quite the opposite then what I would have said 10 years ago.
      When I thought every decision was unknown until thinking at the conscious level occurred. Turns out, I was wrong.

      I am really looking forward to studies about peoples thinking process when they need to solve an out of bounds problem.
      If it goes where it looks like it's going, things are going to get weird.

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    4. Re:The more I learn about human by CanHasDIY · · Score: 2

      Reading the many, many responses of people who completely missed your premise, all I can say is, wow.

      For the record, I totally agree with you (for once). Putting certain restrictions on potentially harmful products/services is not prohibition, it's common sense.

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    5. Re:The more I learn about human by RedDeadThumb · · Score: 2

      Here's some practical neurological science data for you to chew on. The best way to get me to do something is to tell me I am not allowed to do it.

      And what's with all the inflammatory language in your posts? Calling people stupid does not make your argument any stronger. To me, it makes it much weaker if you have to resort to name-calling. If I had mod points I'd knock you down whether I agreed with what you are saying or not. But I have noticed there seems to be a lot of Beavis&Butthead type moderating that goes on here that does exactly the opposite. (heh, heh, heh)

    6. Re:The more I learn about human by Mister+Whirly · · Score: 2

      Wow, just wow. I respectfully disagree with your opinions, which is what they are.

      Notice how I didn't resort to name calling just becasue we didn't agree on something? Probably not, if you noticed things like that you probably would not act in such a manner. Perhaps if I were you I would "assume you were simple" but I am willing to give you the benefit of a doubt. Even though you are rude.

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  8. Re:So... by istartedi · · Score: 3, Insightful

    So... anybody know the penalty for receiving proceeds from winnings across state lines? This will work with personal information submitted to the casino, including perhaps a routing/transit number, a credit card to buy credits, and other information which leads back to... your home address.

    You could commit address fraud of course. Some student with 500 people "living" in his 1-bed dorm room will probably learn the hard way that it's a serious thing.

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  9. Re:So... by Idbar · · Score: 2

    Well, there's that for a lesson on gambling:

    You may... or may not win^H^H^Hget caught... your move.

  10. Re:Already figured it out. by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

    Since the U.S. Supreme Court keeps giving corporations similar rights as people,

    The Supreme Court didn't give anyone anything. They simply ruled that the people that make up a corporation still have the rights that they were born with, especially for a corporation that was formed for the express purpose of exercising one of those rights.

  11. Re:Already figured it out. by Obfuscant · · Score: 2

    Also, when the corporation committed a crime, the CEO would go to prison.

    Some of them have. Bernie Madoff and Kenneth Lay, to name two. I'm sure you could find more if you cared. Yes, pretty easy. Google "CEO prison".

    • Kevin Cassidy, 30 months in federal prison.
    • Ken Beverly, two years.
    • Dennis Kozlowski, 8 1/3 to 25
    • Bernard Ebbers, 25 years
    • Jeffrey Keith "Jeff" Skilling, 24 years

    That's just a sample from the first page of google results.

    But, of course, you probably meant to say "if anyone working for the corporation committed a crime, the CEO would go to prison." Where did you get the idea that someone who works for a corporation makes the corporation liable for his actions? Well, board members and officers, yes. A shipping supervisor who dumps trash instead of sending it to through the proper disposal channels? Hardly.

    The people who make up a corporation are still people, and they still have rights. Even in the USA.

  12. It's called 'Society' by fantomas · · Score: 4, Insightful

    "It's extremely pretentious and arrogant to try to 'protect' another adult from something you think could harm them."

    It's called 'society'. Different places have different rules, but pretty well everywhere in the world groups of humans have agreed social rules that override individual choice because as a group, the people have decided where the boundaries lie. Cross the boundaries, and the rest of the people, or some representatives, will pull you back, or even forbid you to cross the boundaries in the first place.

    In some places it's injecting heroin, other places drinking alcohol, or firing guns without a licence, or driving a motor vehicle without proving you can pass a test the other people have agreed upon. But most places have these rules agreed by the wider society. Partly to protect people from themselves, and partly to prevent them harming others.

    Part of being human is being sensitive enough to realise screwing up other people's lives for your own pleasure is not a good thing, that we are social animals, and to win other people's goodwill for the time when we need their help, we shouldn't ignore their concerns.

    Communal groups of humans try to minimise the damage individuals who don't have that sensitivity by restricting them from going too crazy.

    There are a few places in the world where there are no boundaries on individuals doing what ever they want, but not many.