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Twitter Clampdown Could Impede Anonymous Tweets

judgecorp writes "Twitter is going to clamp down on abuse and 'trolling' according to its CEO Dick Costolo. Actions could include hiding replies from users who do not have any followers or biographical information. The difficulty is that moves to stop trolling could also curtail the anonymous Tweets which have been useful for protest in repressive regimes."

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  1. Seems Obvious by Beardydog · · Score: 5, Insightful

    Adding censorship tools could aid censorship? I would guess that what's considered trolling if it's done to a comgressperson's feed is considered noble dissent it's done to a dictator who has suddenly lost popularity in the west. Will Twitter have an emal address to which one can apply for the "noble dissent" waiver?

    1. Re:Seems Obvious by Gaygirlie · · Score: 4, Insightful

      as the twitter search sucks.

      You made a typo there, mate; you added two extra words there by mistake. Here, let me fix it for you: "as twitter sucks."

    2. Re:Seems Obvious by sco08y · · Score: 5, Insightful

      Considering from the moderators here that "troll" means "any post I don't agree with", you need to understand why this is such a bad idea. What is a troll, exactly? Concrete, objective definition please.

      I remember back in the day on some smaller boards when trolling had a pretty specific meaning: it meant someone who was probably mentally disturbed who would routinely hurl invective at people on a board, try to set up arguments between people, and such.

      Years ago on /., trolls were a specific group of people who just liked to fuck with people. They'd cook up certain irrelevant posts that would get a lot of angry comments, or they'd do stuff to wreck the layout of the page, or just post bizarre stories or whatever.

      But now, trolling has lost its meaning because it's become ubiquitous... it's gotten to the point where someone says something stupid, you point it out, and they claim that they were trolling you. /. just needs to update its mod labels to reflect the way the terms have changed in meaning. But whether it's through "troll" or "flamebait", I know that people across the ideological divide from me are promoting people they agree with, and suppressing people who agree with me, so I'm forced to do the same to balance it out.

    3. Re:Seems Obvious by Archangel+Michael · · Score: 4, Insightful

      A troll is someone you may disagree with, but not always. I know people who troll and get all sorts of +5 Insightful. Those are troll that many agree with, but they are trolls none the less.

      A troll is a stupid comment designed to illicit a emotional response. I know I've got plenty of "troll" mods for things I've said that weren't meant to be "troll" posts. SImply saying "Troll" meaning "I disagree" is in itself a troll.

      Name Calling is trollish (___ is stupid). So are out of context random quotes (GNAA). Most Sexual comments (unless in a related topic) are troll posts. Any post that has a sole purpose of inciting a FLAME WAR is a troll (PCs Rule!!).

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  2. You must be (THIS) popular to post by Bieeanda · · Score: 4, Insightful

    The example given is ridiculous on its face. Biographical information can easily be faked-- a lot of the bots I've encountered swipe photos from Facebook and personals sites. Requiring a certain number of people to follow you, before you can... what? The only people this really hurts are newbies to the service. If you can automate creating an account, you can automate getting accounts to follow one another.

  3. So web 3.0 is here? by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Funny

    Since we didn't like what some individuals were saying in our "web 2.0" model we are now turning it into solely a broadcast medium for celebrities to promote their projects and plug their endorsements, and the "popular" to spew their random 140 character thought fragments that nobody with a brain cares about in the first place.

    What could go wrong?

  4. Re:Ain't Nobody's Business by ThatsMyNick · · Score: 5, Insightful

    But people do have the right to voice their displeasure and hope for (or start) a new service that does not have these flaws.

  5. Re:Ain't Nobody's Business by geekmux · · Score: 4, Insightful

    Twitter is a private enterprise, not a public service. They have every right to decide what they will publish.

    While legally there is some truth here, this is quite possibly the most pointless thing ever said about Twitter.

    In case you were new to this whole Twitter thing and how it works, "Ain't Nobody's Business" is in the business of making every damn thing everyone's business, via a public service that is free to use by anyone.

    One can argue the legalities of private vs. public all damn day long, but there is no denying what Twitter is, or more importantly, what people have come to expect from Twitter, and censorship isn't one of them.

    I don't predict a good outcome from this. This policy may stop trolling alright, but Twitter dying a horrible death due to censorship probably wasn't the troll solution they were going for.

  6. A simple spam filter would be nice by JazzXP · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I just wish they'd block tweets that are directed straight at me, with a shortened link in them, from people I've never interacted with before.

  7. Can we please drop this concept of "YRO"? by Alimony+Pakhdan · · Score: 4, Interesting

    Some time ago some sensible folks pointed out that there is no such thing as "cyber crime" just "crime". For the very same reasons, there really is no such thing as "your rights online", just "your rights" and I'd like to remind everyone that the concept of "rights" is not the same everywhere.

  8. Actually, so is twitter... by Oxford_Comma_Lover · · Score: 5, Interesting

    From the summary, it sounds like Twitter's efforts--purportedly to clamp down on abuse--can be easily bypassed by setting up two accounts instead of one, and entering a few fake fields.

    So basically, it sounds like a way to artificially bump the number of accounts. So they may be looking to sell the company, or someone may be looking to artificially pad their resume.

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  9. it wasn't your intention by circletimessquare · · Score: 4, Interesting

    but you disproved your point deeply by saying that

    among a certain set, it is attractive to privatize everything

    of course, in industries with a network effect (electricity, cable, telephone) and huge startup costs (power plants, car manufacturing) the effect is that a few large players dominate, an oligarchy. this is true of google and twitter and facebook as well

    an oligarchy is not the same thing as a free market where consumers can easily and freely switch providers

    this being true, there is no easy and obvious alternative. if i dislike the sandwich my deli made me, i can walk down a block to another deli. but there is no other twitter. well, there is, but, the network effect being what it is, it's like saying i'm going to drop verizon and take up cardboard cups on strings

    so, in response to your comment, i say this: for fields dominated by a few large players, the government has the right, in your name, to regulate those players as if they were part of your government, and that it is not at all illogical to say that rights you hold your government to, such as free speech, be imposed on the private enterprise, because it is, after all, basically serving a public interest with no real competitors

    you can't have it both ways: either the situation is truly like a free market, or it is like a government service. you can't point at an oligarchy and a monopoly and say the rules of walking down the street to another deli applies. there are no other choices, it's not really a free market

    just because you privatized a service to a few huge players is not the same thing as a free market. you're just playing silly games because you believe capitalism is some sort of religion that answers all things, when it clearly doesn't

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  10. Re:Meanwhile, in the sensible part of the Internet by icebraining · · Score: 5, Informative

    its over 50% of the site

    There's 57 boards in total, of which only 17 are for +18.

    It's not hard math.

    by if you mean clicking an ok box its restricted I have a box of magic beans to sell you

    I meant what I wrote: porn is restricted to the Adult boards.