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Copyrights To Reach Deep Space
bs0d3 writes "Voyager 1 is expected to reach interstellar space soon. It will be the first made made object to cross the heliosphere, which is the final stop in our solar system. Voyager 1, famously contained a gold phonographic record. The record was filled with iconic sights, images, and sounds from earth, and the prevailing message, "we come in peace". The disc was [composed] by a man named Carl Sagan, and it contained many pieces of art, songs, and images, that are all copy-written. According to NASA, 'Most of the material they used was copyrighted by the creators/owners and Sagan had to get copyright releases in order to assemble the original record. Subsequently, Warner Multimedia was able to obtain copyright releases for the 1992 version of "Murmurs of Earth" .. Unfortunately, the book and CDROM are no longer being published and are hard to find as a set.'"
Say piss on your your copyrights........
"The average reporter we talk to is 27 years old......They literally know nothing." - Ben Rhodes
"It will be the first made made object "
"The disc was comprised by a man "
"that are all copy-written. "
Of course. This was a brilliant plan to spur on space innovation in the private sector by encouraging the copyright cartels to sue any alien civilization that dared play the record in public. No matter how many light years away the alien race may be, we can be assured that the copyrights will still be in force by the time voyager reaches them.
"They that can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety."
... with aliens is a 30 second ad telling them 'Piracy is a crime'
The disc was comprised by a man named Carl Sagan
I don't think that word means what you think it means.
Facts do not cease to exist because they are ignored. -Aldous Huxley
Nice - First contact is made by an American lawyer who serves a DMCA violation to the aliens because they illegally copied the gold record to a digital format so they could play it in their spaceship.
... And we're off to a great start!
The lawyer tries to explain the violation to the alien - but the alien is unable to understand how even though it has returned the gold record, it has still 'stolen' a copy.
Nope. That would be the Oort cloud and it's way, way further out.
...asphyxiating in the cold reaches of interstellar space?
Money well spent.
I hope that in centuries to come, our descendants will look back on copyright and 'intellecutal property' as a stupid little social experiment that became a painful learning experience.
'Man, I'm glad we don't to go through that crap. Can you believe they had to PAY for data?!'
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That would be the Oort cloud
So it's copyrighted music in the cloud. How is this any more or less illegal than services like MP3tunes?
... Voyager will reach another solar system. Mickey Mouse will still be under copyright.
I spent a long time searching for a copy of the CD. I scoured every used bookstore I could find. I found multiple copies of the book, but never the CD. Couldn't even find it on ebay. Finally, someone on Demonoid put up a torrent. I contacted the original seeder and he had searched long and hard just like me. It's a remarkable collection of music. Such a shame the music we chose to share with the universe as a testament of who we are cannot be shared amongst ourselves.
the extraterrestrials will pay their damages in the form of 3 ningis, delivered in cash to the RIAA.
Greeting From The Secretary General Of The UN
...if you're looking for either "Murmurs of Earth" or the CD-ROM, just ask a Swedish website and click on a magnet or two.
Greetings In 55 Languages
UN Greetings & Whale Greetings
The Sounds Of Earth
J. S. Bach - Brandenburg Concerto No. 2 In F, First Movement
Java, court gamelan - Kinds Of Flowers
Senegal, percussion - Tchenhoukoumen
Zaire - Pygmy Girls' Initiation Song
Australian Aborigine songs - Morning Star And Devil Bird
Mexico - El Cascabel (performed by Lorenzo Barcelata)
Chuck Berry - Johnny B. Goode
Papua New Guinea - Men's House Song
Japan, shakuhachi - Cranes In Their Nest (performed by Coro Yamaguchi)
J. S. Bach - Gavotte En Rondeaux, from the Partitia No. 3 In E Minor For
Mozart - The Magic Flute, Queen Of The Night Aria, No. 14
Georgia, chorus - Tchakrulo
Peru - Panpipes And Drum Song
Louis Armstrong & His Hot Seven - Melancholy Blues
Azerbaijan Bagpipes - Ugam
Stravinsky - Rite Of Spring, Sacrificial Dance
J. S. Bach - The Well-Tempered Clavier, Book 2, Prelude And Fugue In C, No. 1
Beethoven - Symphony No. 5 In C Minor, First Movement
Bulgaria - Izlel Je Delyo Hagdutin (sung by Valya Balkanska)
United States - Navajo Night Chant
Holborne - Fairie Round, from Paueans, Gaillards, Almains, And Other Short A
Solomon Islands - Melanesian Panpipes
Peru - Wedding Song
China, Ch'in - Flowing Streams (performed by Kuan P'ing-hu)
India, Raga - Jaat Kahan Ho (sung by Surshri Kesar Bai Kerkar)
Blind Willie Johnson - Dark Was The Night
Beethoven - String Quartet No. 13 In B Flat, Opus 130, Cavatina
Geeks like to think that they can ignore politics, you can leave politics alone, but politics won't leave you alone.-rms
Seriously? What is the point?
The ISS seems to be in a area of lax copyright law.
As they can easily get TV shows, first run moves (still in movie theaters)
"If the crew wants specific movies, music or TV shows, we can uplink them to the server and they can then access them from any computer."
"Crew members aboard the ISS can request specific films and TV shows to be uploaded to a central file server, which they can then watch on any of the Station's laptops."
http://crave.cnet.co.uk/gadgets/interview-the-space-stations-it-guys-49304003/
And I don't think they run windows and I don't think Hollywood likes a very open media server with out a direct internet link.
I go out for a drink with Ted from time to time and I can assure you that he pictures himself slashing the throat of the CFO, taking CFO's pretty secretary right on the bloody desk, and then taking over the position all day long.
Absolutely. Everyone would stop writing music, filming movies without the certain knowledge that alien civilizations with have to pay full retail for 'Star Trek: First Contact' for the next 100 or so years.
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Dunno if I'm the only one who thinks so, but if the copyright holder ceases / refuses to publish a work, I believe that anyone should be free to make a copy of the work. Just sayin'.
Anyway already TV signals have gone out many light years, and they were theoretically copyrighted.
Some, like the sci-fi show from the early 50's Tales of Tomorrow, are now public domain and have bounced back to Earth landing at archive.org
http://archive.org/search.php?query=Tales%20of%20Tomorrow%20AND%20collection%3Atelevision
Nah, by the time Voyager gets to them, they've had years of radio and TV broadcasts pass them. They'll already know about copyright, and more importantly how Earth has planned to treat virtually every alien species. Kill them. Kill them with bullets. Kill them with ray guns. Kill them with fire. Kill them with nukes. If they didn't already have advanced weaponry, they'll have it built before they make first contact.
At this time, if they met with Voyager, they'd only be about 15 hours behind on our broadcasts.
Serious? Seriousness is well above my pay grade.
Some are striving to overcome our violent with faiths such as christianity. Humanity cannot achieve a Utopian society through humanism. Star Trek was a lie and were are more like the "mirror" universe than you would care to admit.
I see your problem right there. Arguably, more wars have been declared for a religion, either directly (eg: Crusades) or indirectly as a justification (many colonial wars) than wars that have been stopped due to religion. Even the distinction between those 2 examples is hazy. Organised religion is just another method our societies group ourselves into "us" and "them".
Looking at the past couple of hundred years of our history, it's been a general social trend to avoid the upheaval and horror of war - access to information and an increased voice of the people in government has helped, not to mention the general populous being far better educated and having much more free time to consider the results of their actions than a few hundred years ago. Additionally, society is shedding the crutches of religion as we better understand ourselves and the world around us - just look how much the old faiths are thrashing around, making noise, trying to save themselves. Humanity is still far from peaceful, and we're still a warlike bunch, but there is far more social pressure for nations to not slap each other in the face over a minor tiff. It's social and memetic evolution.
It's actually very representative of the two-faced attitude of humanity: the message of peace in the record is delivered by a former Nazi.
That's the real problem with this record, not the fact that it's copyrighted.
"A door is what a dog is perpetually on the wrong side of" - Ogden Nash
"Copy-written"?
Liberty in your lifetime
Wrong.
Did you buy that ID on eBay?
Confucius say, "Find worm in apple - bad. Find half a worm - worse."
The brilliance of the plan is that by the time the Earth lawyers find out that the Klingons have been listening to our music, a couple of centuries will have past (with the speed of light and the size of our galaxy and all). Imagine the calculations for the lost revenues. :-)
Which weigh about 40kg and will be arriving at the RIAA main office at about 12km/s.
FRA: STFU GTFO
Well, if you're willing to trust uncited Wiki-facts, Carl Sagan negotiated with the rights-holders specifically to get permission for playing the pieces of music copyright-free outside of the solar system. It's a cool work-around: of course pretty much any recorded performance has copyright restrictions, but Carl Sagan figured the disk itself wasn't intended to be played by any human so legally he just needed rights outside some geographically restricted zone (say, the entire solar system) to have all the rights he needed to create potentially the widest distribution mixtape of all time.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Voyager_Golden_Record
'This writing business. Pencils and what-not. Over-rated if you ask me. Silly stuff. Nothing in it' - Eeyore
Copy-writing is the act of writing copy. Copy being the text of an piece of media. I guess technically this is true - much of the copy had been written. I'm not sure this is what you meant.
Copyright is the exclusive right to make a copy. Much of the material has been copyrighted. This is presumably what was meant here.
100 years? Even the Earth is going to stay habitable for several hundred million years. We're looking at billions or trillions of years of sentient life in the universe, maybe much more. The copyright is going to stay around for at least an order of magnitude beyond that.
Eh. We have been known to (temporarily) come in peace when we don't have the power to back up the alternative(Apropos of the 4th of July, see the English colonial activities in the new world).
Are you using The American War of Independence as an example of coming in peace?
If anything, it's a fantastic example of the opposite- how we use war as a first resort to solving our problems. Someone increases tax on tea imports? War!
The US asserts legal jurisdiction not only in other countries but also on other planets. First contact will be to strong arm an extradition of some youthful alien (bringing new meaning to illegal alien).
"Unfortunately, the book and CDROM are no longer being published and are hard to find as a set.'"
Thus illustrating where the copyright system is really broken.
Copyright should be automatic for ten or fifteen years then after that you should have to pay for continued protection. If it's still making money then paying isn't a problem. If it isn't making money and/or being actively promoted it should drop into public domain.
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Can human apply the earth laws, such as copyrights, into other corners in the universe?
Yes. Unfortunately for us, the aliens will read the data on the disk and send back a message:
Thank you for your information. Our clients hold the universal copyright on RNA and DNA replication technology. This letter is official notification under Section A484615(d) of the Universal Millennium Copyright Act (”UMCA”), and we seek the removal of the aforementioned infringing material from your planet. I request that you immediately notify the infringers of this notice and inform them of their duty to remove the infringing material immediately, and notify them to cease any further replication of DNA or RNA on your planet in the future.
An enforcement detail will arrive in your system in one week to ensure compliance.
Thank you.
I would hope in slashdot, if not everywhere in the world we could address Carl Sagan as if we know him, not as "By a man called Carl Sagan". It makes me special to be able to put a face upon hearing this name.
Absolutely. Everyone would stop writing music, filming movies without the certain knowledge that alien civilizations with have to pay full retail for 'Star Trek: First Contact' for the next 100 or so years.
If alien civilizations get hold of a copy of "Star Trek: First Contact" they'll probably vote to annihilate Earth as being artistically beyond the pale.
To have a right to do a thing is not at all the same as to be right in doing it