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Software-Defined Radio: the Apple I of Broadcast?

benfrog writes "A company called Per Vices has introduced software-defined radio gear that Ars Technica is comparing to the Apple I. Why? Because software radio can broadcast and receive nearly any radio signal on nearly any frequency at the same time, and thus could 'revolutionize wireless.' The Per Vices Phi is one of the first devices aimed at the mass hobbyist market to take advantage of this technology."

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  1. USRP is expensive by chihowa · · Score: 4, Informative

    The USRP is really cool, but stupidly expensive. Some really cool stuff is happening with the RTL2832 based TV dongles, though. These are $20 devices that can be used to receive from ~64-1700 MHz (or DC-30ish with a little tweaking). So far, much of the info is here

    The USRP would be cool if current PCB layouts and schematics were available or if the development effort went to a system that wasn't just making Ettus a profit. A truly open development platform would really benefit the SDR community.

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  2. Very little to do with broadcast by icebike · · Score: 5, Interesting

    The game changer here would be in the Cell Phone industry which can substitute a single radio chip to do all the protocols, wifi, cellular, bluetooth, as well as mix and match them at will. New air protocols could be invented over night without waiting for expensive chip developments. Its a cost reduction path as well as a device longevity path.

    Although it sounds wonderful when your cell phone is stuck on CDMA or your Bluetooth lacks all the latest capabilities, there are still problems of having an infinite number of antennas available (yes, we already have software defined antennas) in a small place.

    There will still have to be frequency restrictions imposed in the hardware itself because the FCC can't afford to allow Joe Random Programmer bringing down jumbo jets. But within authorized bands the ability to use new methods without waiting for the next chip means that we can build a replacement for entire infrastructures much more quickly, while maintaining existing technology for as long as we need it.

    Somewhere in this world there are still 029 card punches in use. I suspect we will keep some of our current stuff long after it should be scrapped.

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    1. Re:Very little to do with broadcast by ceoyoyo · · Score: 4, Interesting

      I don't think it's going to do much for cell phones. Software defined radio basically shifts the processing from hardware to software. That requires power. For a cell phone, which must operate on a set protocol, there are only drawbacks. Yes, you could upgrade the protocol, but cell protocols don't change very fast and it's unlikely you'd want to run a general purpose cell tower on SDR because of the processing requirements.

      What SDR is going to do is revolutionize the unlicensed bands.

    2. Re:Very little to do with broadcast by Baloroth · · Score: 2

      In theory, though, an SDR cell phone could transition from 3G to 4G-LTE to true 4G with nothing but a software update. That is an extremely cool idea. Tt'd also allow fancy things like using it as a true walkie-talkie or CB radio, and 100% world-wide compatibility. I agree it is unlikely to happen anytime soon, but TFA compares the current SDR systems to the Apple I: it's going to take a very long time before the technology sees it's full usage.

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    3. Re:Very little to do with broadcast by ceoyoyo · · Score: 2

      Most phones already use chips that have wifi, bluetooth and GPS in one.

    4. Re:Very little to do with broadcast by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

      Phones already use SDR. It is built into the radio ICs which contain both the analogue radio hardware and a programmable DSP. Android phone updates often include firmware updates for these DSPs, and many phones can be swapped between W-CDMA/GSM and whatever it is the US uses just by changing the radio software.

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    5. Re:Very little to do with broadcast by jiriw · · Score: 2

      However ... if you could just use a generic hardware broadcasting device and do all the patent-laden de/encoding in software... You'd have a blast in those large regions of the world where software patents don't hold much sway (Europe, for example... 'though lobbyists try to change that quite vigorously).
      And when the U.S. finally learns 'idea' patents only hamper innovation, there won't be a problem at all. It'll be 'just' software ;)

  3. Re:News Release by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 4, Informative

    gnuradio just wasn't sexy enough, I guess. Not enough like arduino on the tip of everyone's tongue.

    The device in TFA is a piece of hardware designed to support gnuradio(it might support other things as well; but a gnuradio interface is explicitly mentioned in the device specs).

    Gnuradio is just the software side. Traditionally, the USRP has been the peripheral of choice. Not cheap; but configurable for a wide range of frequencies and probably the most mature. A sound card(with appropriate external circuitry bringing things down to audio frequencies, of course) is also an option, and certain flavors of DVB TV receiver dongles are the new hotness in the cheap seats.

    This "Phi" device lacks some of the versatility of the classier USRP gear; but it is cheaper and offers a very fast interface to the host computer...

    Unlike 'Arduino', where the term refers more or less interchangeably to both the software development environment and to a variety of atmega-based microcontroller boards, Gnuradio is just the software side. There is no 'gnuradio' hardware per se, as there is with Arduino. The USRP is probably the closest to being that; but it is pricey enough to be out of the hands of a great many hobbyists.

  4. GNU Radio needs hardware behind it by tepples · · Score: 2

    The article mentions GNU Radio, saying that the hardware used with GNU Radio during the "broadcast flag" debate couldn't capture more than 0.1 MHz of spectrum.

  5. Re:Pirate radio? by ewanm89 · · Score: 2

    This is only legal to Amateur radio operators I believe, as it will not be vetted by the FCC/Ofcom... to broadcast only on the allowed part of the spectrum. From a Ham operators point of view, it's not much difference than a full HF/VHF rig, or a USRP with every possible daughter board installed. The big change is that it's all on one card and it uses PCI-Express for the interface to to the computer.

    The whole this will stop the FCC having so much control over the spectrum is totally wrong. They'll have as much control as they currently do which is they can shut down any transmitter in the US if it's not following the licensing terms they set out.

  6. so? old hat. by swschrad · · Score: 4, Informative

    hams have had SDR for a decade more or less. and software-controlled radio back a little longer. and I seem to remember a win95 radio card that slid into an AT slot back in the mid or late 90s...

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  7. Re:gnu radio by Anonymous Coward · · Score: 4, Insightful

    I don't know why the sockpuppets are badmouthing the GNU so loudly lately. That ship has sailed. They won. Free(as in freedom) software is legitimate, is a legitimate business model, and is eating the lunch of commercial software in many arenas while chipping away at others. Even the BSDers with their doublespeak about the GPL being "less free" amount to little more than a gigantic pile of butthurt. Maybe you could have made that argument a decade ago, but history has also vindicated the FSF here too.

    The FSF and Stallman are like.. Socrates. Principled and unwavering, uncomfortably correct. Their detractors have little recourse but to badmouth them. (Haha communisim, haha dirty bearded hippy.)

  8. Software Defined Radios going to ISS in 15 days by ajalics · · Score: 2

    Interesting time to talk about Software Defined Radios.

    NASA's SCaN Testbed with 3 Software Defined Radios is launching onboard the Japanese HTV-3 Unmanned cargo vehicle in 15 days. (July 21st)

    It's an experimental payload that will be bolted to the exterior of the International Space Station and perform communications experiments with the 3 SDR's contained in the payload.

    http://spaceflightsystems.grc.nasa.gov/SOPO/SCO/SCaNTestbed/Payload/

  9. Only half of the widget... by Worchaa · · Score: 5, Insightful
    FTFA: "It could record FM radio and digital television signals, read RFID chips, track ship locations, or do radio astronomy. In principle it could perform all of these functions simultaneously."

    Nice try, but no. At least not in a practical sense and certainly not as a mobile rig.

    Software Defined Radios are sweet but still dependent on a Physically Defined Antenna. I can see loads of wonderful uses for a broadband, frequency-agile SDR. Actually, I use them often as a Ham radio operator and they are extremely cool. However, there's still the problem of the pesky antenna. You can fudge quite a bit on a receiving antenna, not so much with a transmitting antenna (or a single transceiver antenna), and the engineers out there are very talented and clever at coming up with better designs... but it always tends to come down to the antenna.

    My point is that advances in SDR tech is fantastic, but they're not-- nor do I ever see them becoming-- a magic box. What I think they WILL do is streamline production. One super SDR can be dropped into a number of application-specific boxes.

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    1. Re:Only half of the widget... by Worchaa · · Score: 3, Informative

      You can fudge quite a bit on a receiving antenna, not so much with a transmitting antenna...

      None of the uses in the quote you objected to require a transmitting antenna.

      True. That's a good point. However, consider the enormous range of those services:

      RFID: 120 KHz - 10 GHz (Generally below 2.4 GHz, with LF and UHF tags being common)
      FM Broadcast: 88 MHz - 108 MHz
      DTV: 55 MHz - 700 MHz (Three bands, ~55-85, ~175-210, ~470-700)
      Radio Astronomy: 13 MHz - 0.8 THz or something equally nuts way up there (The VLA receives below 50 GHz)

      That's way outside the scope of getting an antenna to fudge on receive. We're talking wavelengths from ~1.5 MILES to under half a millimeter !

      Unless Scotty beams down and hands us an antenna from the future, TFA's mega-broadband SDR described as doing all that at the same time is science fiction. I'll buy that SDRs could possibly handle that kind of bandwidth sometime soon, but there's no way we're going to see a practical antenna system shipping with it.

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  10. The FCC heavily regulates SDRs by TwineLogic · · Score: 4, Informative
    It would be good to change the laws and federal regulations in the United States so that using SDRs would become legal. The current situation is an attempt to enforce "privacy through obscurity" by outlawing radios which could possibly intercept cell phone, pager, or radiotelephone communications (47 USC 302). It is also an attempt to enforce "copyright through obscurity" by requiring that FCC-approved devices respect copyright bits (47 USC 605). All of these problems would be better solved with cryptography. Remember the Clipper chip? That would have been a better path to choose than the current situation.

    A few of the relevant obstructions in the form FCC regulations and laws are: 47 USC 2.501, 47 USC 302, 47 USC 605, 47 CFR 2.944, 47 CFR 15.3 (dd).

    47 CFR 2.944:
    Software defined radios.
    (a) Manufacturers must take steps to ensure that only software that has been approved with a software defined radio can be loaded into the radio. The software must not allow the user to operate the transmitter with operating frequencies, output power, modulation types or other radio frequency parameters outside those that were approved. Manufacturers may use means including, but not limited to the use of a private network that allows only authenticated users to download software, electronic signatures in software or coding in hardware that is decoded by software to verify that new software can be legally loaded into a device to meet these requirements and must describe the methods in their application for equipment authorization.
    (b) Any radio in which the software is designed or expected to be modified by a party other than the manufacturer and would affect the operating parameters of frequency range, modulation type or maximum output power (either radiated or conducted), or the circumstances under which the transmitter operates in accordance with Commission rules, must comply with the requirements in paragraph (a) of this section and must be certified as a software defined radio.
    (c) Applications for certification of software defined radios must include a high level operational description or flow diagram of the software that controls the radio frequency operating parameters.
    [70 FR 23039, May 4, 2005]

    The penalty for a violation is forfeiture, a fine of up to $10,000, and up to one year in federal prison. See 47 USC sec. 501 This applies to person who purchase the radios as well as persons who sell them. See 47 USC sec. 500 et. seq.
    Various internet sources assert that SDRs are "test equipment" and excluded under 47 CFR 15.3 (dd), which reads:

    (dd) Test equipment is defined as equipment that is intended primarily for purposes of performing measurements or scientific investigations. Such equipment includes, but is not limited to, field strength meters, spectrum analyzers, and modulation monitors.

    I find it difficult to believe the FCC would classify the various SDRs as test equipment, but we will probably find out soon enough.

    http://www.law.cornell.edu/cfr/text/47/2.944
    http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/47/501

    Before you downvote me because you don't like the laws; consider this: I posted this information because we must change these laws rather than suffer them.

    1. Re:The FCC heavily regulates SDRs by tlhIngan · · Score: 4, Informative

      There is basically no regulation on SDRs.

      Receivers - well, you have normal receive rules, though the cellphone one is pretty much invalid these days as no one uses AMPS anymore.

      Transmitters - the rule basically says if you have a software transmitter, that software better only allow transmission on the licensed bands.

      There aren't any special rules other than "don't transmit where you're not licensed to". The rule for software options is basically ensuring that the user cannot misprogram their transmitter and operate out of band and interfere with other licensed services.

      It's the same as an old style transmitter - care should be taken so users cannot readily change the operating frequency and power so they create interference.

      And yes, the fines are like that because they apply to unlicensed transmitters as well - if you're transmitting on a band you're not supposed to, you, the user can find your equipment confiscated and fined.

      The law is perfectly adequate - manufacturers need to ensure their SDR cannot be used out of the licensed bands (and power envelopes). It's an "SDR" rule because in an old style transmitter, the output stages normally dictate that you can't transmit out of band anyhow without retuning. But since an SDR can be free to transmit on any band without limitation, the software must ensure it's within the license and the user can't trivially modify it to be out of spec.

      SDRs are everywhere - the modern cellphone, wifi radio, bluetooth, etc., they're all SDRs internally. These normally have very specific front ends and filters so even if you could set them out of band, they are out of tune and don't transmit squat.

      It's a fair rule and prevents frequency anarchy (and frequencies are set aside for various uses).

    2. Re:The FCC heavily regulates SDRs by timeOday · · Score: 2
      The laws you quoted appear to restrict transmitting, not receiving. As written it seems to me you could distribute "approved" software that would allow anybody to receive anything.

      So, has anybody been prosecuted for receiving signals, or distributing equipment to receive a signal? (Short of circumventing encryption?)

    3. Re:The FCC heavily regulates SDRs by scharkalvin · · Score: 2

      There has never really been ANY law against owning or building ANY radio receiver that could pick up ANY part of the spectrum. Scanners have been sold that blocked out Cell phone frequencies, but people have hacked these to re-enable the reception. Today, the point is moot as Cellphones have gone digital and the scanners were all analog receivers. It was ALWAYS illegal to make public any conversations you heard on ANY "public service" radio band, this includes CB, mobile phone, cell phone, etc. (The amateur radio bands are an exception to this). Transmitters, OTHO ARE regulated by the FCC as to what can be sold. Hams may build their own equipment, and they don't really have to meet any FCC regulations (however the quality of the signals, power levels, bandwidth, etc MUST meet regulations). Commerical amateur radio equipment IS subject to some minimal regulation (such as the imfamous 10 meter restriction to prevent their use on 27mhz CB). The power output levels of a basic SWDR transceiver are about as low as a typical rf signal generator. So yes, these devices WILL be regulated as if they were just lab equipment. It's not until you connect them to an antenna that they actually become a transmitter (and you could hook up a typical tv/radio repair shop type rf signal generator to an antenna an go on the air. I know of some bootleg broadcasters that HAVE done this with a QRP station). If you connect such a rig to a suitable rf linear power amplifier you could have a nice ham rig capable of any mode on any band.
      It would be futile to regulate SDR equipment, since they are only one means of getting an illegal station on the air. Want to build a bootleg transmitter? Just look for ANY copy of the ARRL radio amateur's handbook for ALL the data you'd need. It's really not rocket science and the cat's been out of the bag almost a century!

    4. Re:The FCC heavily regulates SDRs by TwineLogic · · Score: 2

      You haven't read the laws or the regulations I cited in context. In particular, the laws define "interference" from a receiver as being able to listen to AMPS or to decode a digital cell phone or pager signal. I realize that isn't "interference" in any scientific definition, but the law defines it as such, and that's what will count in court.

    5. Re:The FCC heavily regulates SDRs by TwineLogic · · Score: 2
      Again, you have not read the laws I cited a few of. Receivers which can tune to AMPS are illegal. Receivers must not cause interference, and the definition of interference includes the ability to receiver cell phone signals. See 47 CFR 302A (d):

      (d) Cellular telecommunications receivers (1) Within 180 days after October 28, 1992, the Commission shall prescribe and make effective regulations denying equipment authorization (under part 15 of title 47, Code of Federal Regulations, or any other part of that title) for any scanning receiver that is capable of— (A) receiving transmissions in the frequencies allocated to the domestic cellular radio telecommunications service, (B) readily being altered by the user to receive transmissions in such frequencies, or (C) being equipped with decoders that convert digital cellular transmissions to analog voice audio. (2) Beginning 1 year after the effective date of the regulations adopted pursuant to paragraph (1), no receiver having the capabilities described in subparagraph (A), (B), or (C) of paragraph (1), as such capabilities are defined in such regulations, shall be manufactured in the United States or imported for use in the United States.

      A key definition is "scanning receiver":

      (v) Scanning receiver. For the purpose of this part, this is a receiver that automatically switches among two or more frequencies in the range of 30 to 960 MHz and that is capable of stopping at and receiving a radio signal detected on a frequency. Receivers designed solely for the reception of the broadcast signals under part 73 of this chapter, for the reception of NOAA broadcast weather band signals, or for operation as part of a licensed service are not included in this definition.

      I submit to you the legal theory that an SDR receiver is a scanning receiver. I could be wrong, but it would depend on the mood of a judge.

  11. Apple I? by narcc · · Score: 2

    Er, the Apple I didn't really revolutionize anything. (The Apple II was easily the more influential Apple computer, but even then that was mostly due to VisiCalc.)

    Why not "the MITS Altair of broadcast", ars? You know, a computer that had a real influence on the personal computing revolution.

    If they just wanted something really early, why not "the Kenbak-1 of broadcast" or "the H8 of broadcast"?

    Before everyone accuses me of worshiping at the alter of a dead cult-leader like Roberts, here's what I'm thinking: They picked the Apple I to attract clicks from readers who would otherwise have no interest in software defined radio.

    1. Re:Apple I? by narcc · · Score: 2

      Forgot to mention this bit.

      The Apple I was much closer to a modern all-in-one system,

      Not really. Not even close. Aside from the fact that it was less complete than other offerings at the time, even purchased assembled (assuming any of the 200 were sold that way) There were already products on the market that were MUCH closer to a modern system like the AIM-65 that had, at purchase, an integrated display, keyboard, power-supply, etc. The Apple I was a bag of parts and a circuit board. It didn't even have a case option.

      The Apple II is very likely the machine that you're thinking of, though they were just another me-too player in 1977. Apple would have had a helluva time if it weren't for VisiCalc. Had that been produced initially for a different system, computer history would look very different. VisiCalc drove the adoption of the personal computer in business and, as a consequence, drove sales of the Apple II.

      The TRS-80 Model 1 (the worlds first mass-produced personal computer) sold for less than half the Apple II in 1977. Had Bricklin written VisiCalc for the TRS-80 instead, Apple may have vanished like so many other early players.

      the real advantage of the A2 was the availability of lower cost, higher capacity, easier to use disk drives, [...] That in turn made Visicalc practical. Even though it was first on the Apple ][, Visicalc simply didn't work as well on a PET or TRS-80.

      A strong argument. Though you have to admit that had it been created for a different computer first, it would have advantaged Commodore or Tandy over Apple in that rush to adoption. Woz's disk drive was brilliant, I won't argue that. However, I don't believe that having that edge at the time would have moved Apple's over cheaper alternatives. At the time, if you wanted VisiCalc, you bought an Apple not because it ran the software better, but because Apple became associated with that program. Had VisiCalc not been produced for the Apple II at all, I don't know that they'd have survived into the 1980's.

  12. Re:Eh? by icebike · · Score: 4, Informative

    Not really.
    There are large blocks of spectrum already set aside for use of personal radio devices. Just about anything goes in those bandwidths, subject only to power limitations and staying inside of the spectrum block.

    The FCC is all for this type of use. The FCC is also fully in favor of reallocation spectrum when the situation and demand changes, which is why analog TV is a thing of the past.

    There is precedent for this.

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  13. Re:Pirate radio? by Iceykitsune · · Score: 2

    This is a RECEIVER ONLY! The FCC has said that anyone can listen on any frequency.

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  14. Re:Eh? by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

    Yes, yes it will. You cause issues, FCC gets complaints, it sends in the goon squad to shut you down.

    No, the FCC field operations are a joke. They have been for many years. Budget cuts have all but neutered what little FCC field-monitoring & enforcement that did exist. Many of the monitoring facilities have been shut down or turned into unmanned remote-operated stations.

    They've typically got two or three men and one or two tracking vans for a multi-State-wide area. They're kept so busy tracking things like interference to first-responder/aircraft/military/commercial broadcast that most stuff gets a report filed and that's about it.

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  15. GQRX by SealBeater · · Score: 2

    Hopefully this guy won't be mad at the shoutout.

    There is a lot of work being done to make GnuRadio in general more accessable

    GQRX http://www.oz9aec.net/index.php/gnu-radio/gqrx-sdr

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  16. Re:News Release by fuzzyfuzzyfungus · · Score: 5, Informative

    It's receive only, and the quality isn't magic by any means; but you can get an RTL2832-based DVB-T dongle for ~$20 and be on your merry way.

    (And, indeed, this does seem to have spurred greater interest among people who weren't in for a USRP; but were interested. The fact that SDR involves substantially more nontrivial math than many arduino projects probably limits the mass appeal some, though.)

  17. Re:so? old hat. by AmiMoJo · · Score: 2

    SDR isn't software controlled, it uses software to define the radio protocol in use. Could be as simple as AM or FM modulation, FSK, Manchester or some really complex frequency hopping madness. The point is that a single highly flexible receiver is connected to a DSP that can then replace any number of specialist radios.

    Mobile phones already use it. A DSP can process various network protocols like GSM, CDMA and LTE which in the past would have had dedicated decoding/encoding circuitry for each.

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  18. Re:Pirate radio? by jiriw · · Score: 4, Informative

    Technical Specifications and Support:

    Dual channel, 16 bit, 250 MSPS DAC

    Nope ... RX/TX. If you'd read the article by the way, it should have been clear they wanted a SDR that goes both ways. Of course it doesn't really have an amplifier to speak of, so you can't just hook up an antennae to it and expect to work the world. Especially if you want to output multiple signals in multiple bands, as mentioned in the article, things can get very hairy at the transmission end. By the way, good, distortion free, broadband amplifiers aren't cheap as well and come with their own set of problems.

    The idea might be nice, an 'open source' spectrum, and for the receiving end it's all fine and dandy. I'm not a proponent, of security through obfuscation/obscurity, so regulation of waves receiving: Governments, just grow up!

    But even at low power conditions, for certain frequencies, you don't want to have transmission capabilities in the wrong hands (read: someone who hasn't at least got a a HAM Radio license. A degree in Electronics, Electromechanics, Physics might suffice as well... if it has covered the correct subjects). Things can turn out very nasty even at low power situations. Things like GPS will stop working, or other satellite signals jammed. Many satellites only transmit at an order of 10-100 watts. The amount of signal left when received on earth is miniscule. A little more power and things like Wifi and RC toys/remote controlls/bluetooth will be affected. Digital broadcasting is next I think... including mobile phones and portophone systems there isn't nearly as much robustness in there as there was with the old analogue signals... As they digitized the signals, they could cut bandwith and power requirements... Nice for energy savings and miniaturization of systems but it does mean it can be jammed easier, even if there is overhead in the protocol for error correction. Well .. you'll get the picture.

    While I agree this sounds like a better deal for radio enthousiasts than the Ettus USRP and I'll be itching to get my hands on one of these, color me sceptic about the whole low power broadband broadcast 4 noobs vibe the Per Vices founders seem to transmit.

    73. PG8W.

  19. Re:Pirate radio? by zippthorne · · Score: 3, Insightful

    Cell company lobbyists and congress drones apparently thought that you can keep the radio communication equivalent of shouting across a quiet room private by, instead of encrypting the communication, passing laws that make it illegal to notice.

    I'm not sure that the FCC or ITU had any part in it, however it seems likely that at least ITU would have been involved....

    The remaining question is whether we'll see the law rolled back now that it's been obviated by encryption (or at least CDMA spread spectrum), and is so obviously useless - the only way to detect if someone is listing is to yourself be listening in enough places to measure the shadow created by their receiving equipment or the extremely low-power emission of interference frequencies, assuming that they're using that method of demodulation, equipment capable of receiving the old AM cell phone transmissions can be made in an afternoon using readily available components.

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  20. Freq-Hopping Encrypted Tac-COMM by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

    One thing to note that I haven't seen mentioned yet is that this goes a long way towards making secure & encrypted tactical radio communications much, much more do-able and affordable for private citizens. A capability that's up till now largely been restricted to LEAs and the military.

    This unit's flexibility make setting up frequency/band-hopping and encryption relatively easy. This capability in civilian hands is sure to be disliked by US TLAs and police.

    It makes me wonder whether the government will attempt to outlaw certain programs and/or regulate what software is "legal" to have loaded in such a device, and/or require device capabilities be hardware-crippled/restricted to be legally sold.

    After all, according to the government, it's right and proper that the government conceal it's communications and activities from the citizens, but citizens may certainly not be allowed to communicate securely without the government being able to monitor if they wish.

    "The liberties of a people never were, nor ever will be, secure, when the transactions of their rulers may be concealed from them." - Patrick Henry

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    1. Re:Freq-Hopping Encrypted Tac-COMM by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

      Since it requires strapping a workstation-class PC to your back to run the SDR, which is just a teeny tiny bit non-tactical, I doubt the law enforcement agencies really give a shit, tinfoil hat boy.

      Says who, anonymous-coward boy?

      Only if you plan on doing development work while at the protest/demonstration.

      Once you've got a fixed task like frequency-hopping then it's simply a matter of providing just enough computing power to keep the SDR on-task. A Raspberry Pi would likely be overkill, and could likely handle both the frequency-hopping and encryption.

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  21. $15 DVB-T tuner (RTLSDR) by thygate · · Score: 2

    I'm surprised no-one has mentioned the RTLSDR yet. A $15 DVB-T Tuner than can tune from ~70MHz to 1700MHz. Maximum bandwidth is about 2MHz. It has poor dynamic range (8 bit ADC), but for receiving strong signals it's awesome. There is a source block for gnuradio, and some nice tuners for windows (HDSDR, sdrsharp, ..). Lots of cool stuff to do. For instance I've successfully received MODE-S transponder replies from airplanes as far away as 200km with the stock antenna. Tuning to FM radio, portable mobile radios, DECT, GSM, Exploring the spectrum, .. Of course it cannot compare to an USRP or this new Phi, but it's very cheap and is perfect for getting started, and does not require a HAM license. check here : http://sdr.osmocom.org/trac/wiki/rtl-sdr

  22. Re:so? old hat. by JumboMessiah · · Score: 2

    Yes, there are many HAMs around working on custom SDRs. HPSDR is one I have some exposure to. It handles RX/TX and comes with open schematics. There are some HAMs doing some really cool stuff with it.

  23. Re:Eh? by BlueStrat · · Score: 2

    Of course, if you fuck with a cellular network or a broadcast operators ST links, they WILL jump in their van/helicopter and track down your transmitter, and when they do, they will file all the documentation with the FCC, then all the FCC agent has to do is serve the warrant.

    At least that is how things work in my third-world country (New Zealand). The big networks police their own spectrum, and the MED receive notice of interference and intervene. It would greatly surprise me if the FCC ignored an interference report with complete field testing data.

    I was an active US Amateur Radio Service operator ("Ham") for many years as well as being a professional RF/radio communications/avionics/military systems and general electronics technician for about four decades, so I have some idea of which I speak.

    There's an FCC monitoring station about 20 minutes away that has three guys and two vans, because one van is usually being fixed. At least, that's how it has been for many, many years, unless DHS, FCC, or somebody gave them a much bigger budget in recent years and I hadn't heard. They cover this state and portions of three others. This state alone is only about ~6,000 sq. miles less area than all of New Zealand. For "three men and a truck". You have to be quite a "sore thumb" to attract their attentions.

    Ask US CB'ers (yes, there are still some left) how much of a real threat the FCC is. I'd wager more than half of CB'ers are operating in violation with things like transmitter linear power amplifiers ("footwarmers" or "kickers") boosting the CB transmitter from 4 watts to hundreds, even thousands of watts, "out-of-band" frequency transmission capability, etc. Take-downs are extremely rare, and were even at the height of the "CB craze".

    Unless multiple serious complaints of interference with public and commercial services are received, not much if anything will be done outside of possibly receiving a warning letter. If continued complaints are received and you've failed to respond to the warnings, then, your case may get put into the hopper for a mobile monitoring visit. Which, naturally, may easily be three or more months, depending. Unless the violation is of a nature that doesn't require a mobile unit dispatched, where you'll likely receive a summons and/or a warrant delivered by a Federal Marshall, with possibility of arrest and equipment seizure.

    Of course, if you're interfering with aircraft/police/fire/military/cell services creating a public safety hazard and endangering lives, resources will be "reallocated" to find and shut you down ASAP. Interfering with AM/FM broadcast stations and OTA TV (like running a pirate station) will also get you on an enhanced-priority list.

    They've got a LOT on their plate for the manpower they've got, to put it mildly, so as long as you're not being a complete ass, not causing good people problems and endangering lives, and not attracting attention to yourself, they've got bigger fish to fry.

    Now, let me qualify my statements about US FCC attitudes, in that my comments were based upon ~15+ yr-old conversations I've had with field personnel, not FCC Administration officials, and do not reflect (I'm sure) the Administration's attitudes, policies, or official practices and procedures.

    But of course the one saving grace is that most of those types of field personnel at the monitoring stations and in the vans are geeks and nerds as well, and probably ham operators too. Most of these guys (not all, sadly) "get it". As usual, it's the suits that are the problem, not the guy wearing a pocket-protector with a field-strength meter in his hand.

    Strat

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    Progressivism (aka US 'Liberalism'): Ideas so good they need a police/surveillance-state to enforce.